<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Speaking of making deals w/ Favre, how do you think Strahan got that Subway ad?</div> His Agent? who made a deal with Favre.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Speaking of making deals w/ Favre, how do you think Strahan got that Subway ad?</div> His Agent? who made a deal with Favre.</div> Strahan should have gotten Favre to get him a better divorce lawyer. Strahan's going to need a few more endorsements to pay off his ex.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Patriots theme doesn't make them any more patriotic than the Redskins theme makes them Native American. All of the NFL teams were wearing a sticker of the American flag on their helmet. All of the cities being represented in the NFL are American cities. One of the reasons I hate the Dallas Cowboys is their claim to be America's team. That's taking arrogance to it's next level, narcissism. Wouldn't it have been more appropriate for the New York Giants or New York Jets to rise up and win the Super Bowl? Hey, that would have been interesting. Do you root for or against the New York Jets after 9/11?</div> Wow, I must have really upset you with that. The Pats are the most "USA as a country" related team in the league though. Their colors are red, white, blue, and silver and their mascots are dressed like our founding fathers with muskets and all of that stuff. The Pats obviously aren't America's team because they are hated by a lot of people but their theme is the most American theme of any team in the NFL. I am a Pats fan because of what happened on 9/11. I was having trouble deciding which team to pick as my favorite since I live in New Mexico and we don't even have a NFL team. When 9/11 happened I decided to go with the Patriots because of their American, "Patriotic" theme. So as far as their theme goes, they are the most USA related team. As far as everything else is concerned regarding which team people like the most, they obviously aren't. Just like the Cowboys aren't America's team because a lot of people hate them too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Just like the Cowboys aren't America's team because a lot of people hate them too.</div> Everybody knows that the Packers are America's team. How did you miss the memo?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Patriots theme doesn't make them any more patriotic than the Redskins theme makes them Native American. All of the NFL teams were wearing a sticker of the American flag on their helmet. All of the cities being represented in the NFL are American cities. One of the reasons I hate the Dallas Cowboys is their claim to be America's team. That's taking arrogance to it's next level, narcissism. Wouldn't it have been more appropriate for the New York Giants or New York Jets to rise up and win the Super Bowl? Hey, that would have been interesting. Do you root for or against the New York Jets after 9/11?</div> Wow, I must have really upset you with that. The Pats are the most "USA as a country" related team in the league though. Their colors are red, white, blue, and silver and their mascots are dressed like our founding fathers with muskets and all of that stuff. The Pats obviously aren't America's team because they are hated by a lot of people but their theme is the most American theme of any team in the NFL. I am a Pats fan because of what happened on 9/11. I was having trouble deciding which team to pick as my favorite since I live in New Mexico and we don't even have a NFL team. When 9/11 happened I decided to go with the Patriots because of their American, "Patriotic" theme. So as far as their theme goes, they are the most USA related team. As far as everything else is concerned regarding which team people like the most, they obviously aren't. Just like the Cowboys aren't America's team because a lot of people hate them too.</div> I'm not upset, but what am I supposed to make of the claim that the 2001 Patriots were America's Team? Everyone who loves America should root for the Patriots because they are using the country's colors? Does this make other teams less American because they use regional themes as opposed to a national one? You have as good a reason to root for the Patriots any and I can appreciate it. If that works for you that's great, but I don't see the Patriots as being any more American than any other team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Just like the Cowboys aren't America's team because a lot of people hate them too.</div> Everybody knows that the Packers are America's team. How did you miss the memo? </div> Ironically in from the Super Bowl Years to like the mid 00's a poll showed that the Packers were both the most "hated" and "beloved" team in the NFL. Ahead of the Cowboys and Patriots. "Americas Team" is self proclaimed. It would not surprise me to see the Cowboys as one of the most hated teams in the NFL as well. Same with New England. Only team who really isn't "hated" by fan are the New Orleans Saints and that's only because of Katrina.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Patriots theme doesn't make them any more patriotic than the Redskins theme makes them Native American. All of the NFL teams were wearing a sticker of the American flag on their helmet. All of the cities being represented in the NFL are American cities. One of the reasons I hate the Dallas Cowboys is their claim to be America's team. That's taking arrogance to it's next level, narcissism. Wouldn't it have been more appropriate for the New York Giants or New York Jets to rise up and win the Super Bowl? Hey, that would have been interesting. Do you root for or against the New York Jets after 9/11?</div> Wow, I must have really upset you with that. The Pats are the most "USA as a country" related team in the league though. Their colors are red, white, blue, and silver and their mascots are dressed like our founding fathers with muskets and all of that stuff. The Pats obviously aren't America's team because they are hated by a lot of people but their theme is the most American theme of any team in the NFL. I am a Pats fan because of what happened on 9/11. I was having trouble deciding which team to pick as my favorite since I live in New Mexico and we don't even have a NFL team. When 9/11 happened I decided to go with the Patriots because of their American, "Patriotic" theme. So as far as their theme goes, they are the most USA related team. As far as everything else is concerned regarding which team people like the most, they obviously aren't. Just like the Cowboys aren't America's team because a lot of people hate them too.</div> I'm not upset, but what am I supposed to make of the claim that the 2001 Patriots were America's Team? Everyone who loves America should root for the Patriots because they are using the country's colors? Does this make other teams less American because they use regional themes as opposed to a national one? You have as good a reason to root for the Patriots any and I can appreciate it. If that works for you that's great, but I don't see the Patriots as being any more American than any other team.</div> Oh! This is fantastic. Arguing about colors & merchandise. What's next? A monologue by (TNA Impact personality) Konnan? A theme song for this thread from Dr Dre & Ice Cube.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Only team who really isn't "hated" by fan are the New Orleans Saints and that's only because of Katrina.</div> Exactly. Something bad happens and people jump on board. 9/11 with the Pats and Katrina with the Saints. I'm not saying they will be that way forever because they won't, but people do jump on the bandwagon for a little while at least. After 9/11 I saw t-shirts and signs that people had that said "9/11: Go Patriots!!!" and stuff liek that on them. A lot has changed since then because now I hear things like, "If the Pats win it again I'm going to hang myself." and so on and so forth. Now the media is slaughtering Belichick over his postgame communication with Manning. I'm not saying I liked what he did to Manning by snubbing him and not even talking to him but what happened there? Has Manning pulled a "Tom Jackson" with Belichick before or something?
I'm not sure what you mean about Peyton pulling a "Tom Jackson" with Belichick, but Belichick has never needed a reason to be hateful. It's a shame that as successful as Belichick has been that he chooses to be a sourpuss. What's funny now is, since the Patsies lost the AFC Championship Game, the Patriots coaching staff will be coaching the AFC in the Pro Bowl. Old Sourpuss will get to see Peyton and LT sooner than he might like.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Only team who really isn't "hated" by fan are the New Orleans Saints and that's only because of Katrina.</div> Exactly. Something bad happens and people jump on board. 9/11 with the Pats and Katrina with the Saints. I'm not saying they will be that way forever because they won't, but people do jump on the bandwagon for a little while at least. After 9/11 I saw t-shirts and signs that people had that said "9/11: Go Patriots!!!" and stuff liek that on them. A lot has changed since then because now I hear things like, "If the Pats win it again I'm going to hang myself." and so on and so forth. Now the media is slaughtering Belichick over his postgame communication with Manning. I'm not saying I liked what he did to Manning by snubbing him and not even talking to him but what happened there? Has Manning pulled a "Tom Jackson" with Belichick before or something?</div> Check my geography but the Patriots aren't exactly in New York. Did they move within the last 5 years? People wanted New England to beat the Rams because they were the ultimate underdog at the time.
Last time I checked, 9/11 was considered a national tragedy. People from California, New Mexico, Utah, etc. were killed on that day. Not just citizens of New York. If either New York team had made it to the Super Bowl that year, they would have been the bandwagon team. Nobody would have jumped on the Saints bandwagon as much as they did if the Saints would have been bad this year. The Patriots happened to be very good that year and they wore red, white, and blue so a lot of people mentioned the Pats and 9/11.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not sure what you mean about Peyton pulling a "Tom Jackson" with Belichick, but Belichick has never needed a reason to be hateful. It's a shame that as successful as Belichick has been that he chooses to be a sourpuss. What's funny now is, since the Patsies lost the AFC Championship Game, the Patriots coaching staff will be coaching the AFC in the Pro Bowl. Old Sourpuss will get to see Peyton and LT sooner than he might like.</div> You just won't quit will you? How coaches or players react after or during a game is so not important unless you're an Oprah-loving-whiny-have-nothing-better-to-do-but-analyze-facial expressions-getalifer! What's important is results & his track record is 2nd to none.
I'm going to have to politely disagree. The only person I remember mentioning it was Paul McCartney when they let him into the booth at the Super Bowl. (McCartney is my favorite Beatle, but he should keep his mouth shut when it comes to football.) I just don't remember anyone making a that big of a deal about the Patriots because they happen to wear the nation's colors. I think I was rooting for the Pats because of Mike Martz. What I remember is all of the NFL teams coming out of the tunnel with one player, in front, carrying an American flag and also the field size American flags used around the country. Now, I'm getting curious. Does anyone else remember a big deal being made of New England's Patriot theme that year?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>You just won't quit will you? How coaches or players react after or during a game is so not important unless you're an Oprah-loving-whiny-have-nothing-better-to-do-but-analyze-facial expressions-getalifer! What's important is results & his track record is 2nd to none.</div> I guess Bill Walsh & Chuck Noll are none then. I'd bring up Don Shula & 1972 but then we'd see who the real sourpuss is. woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'>Last time I checked, 9/11 was considered a national tragedy. People from California, New Mexico, Utah, etc. were killed on that day. Not just citizens of New York. If either New York team had made it to the Super Bowl that year, they would have been the bandwagon team. Nobody would have jumped on the Saints bandwagon as much as they did if the Saints would have been bad this year. The Patriots happened to be very good that year and they wore red, white, and blue so a lot of people mentioned the Pats and 9/11.</div> People from Wisconsin were effected as well. Does the same rule apply to the Packers as New England. People didn't jump on the Patriots bandwagon because of 9/11. Look it Baseball. New York Yankees lost to the Arizona Diamondbacks. Most of the general public rooted for D-backs. Mainly because it's the Yankees and everyone likes the underdog. People didn't root for New England or start rooting for them because of 9/11. I think people rooted for sports and turned to sports as a 3 hour "getaway" from reality but New England did not become the "beloved" NFL team because of 9/11.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>You just won't quit will you? How coaches or players react after or during a game is so not important unless you're an Oprah-loving-whiny-have-nothing-better-to-do-but-analyze-facial expressions-getalifer! What's important is results & his track record is 2nd to none.</div> I guess Bill Walsh & Chuck Noll are none then. I'd bring up Don Shula & 1972 but then we'd see who the real sourpuss is. woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!</div> sorry "current" coaches
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>This is quickly becoming one of the most tedious, irrelevant arguments in the history of this board.</div> The Pats and Dolphins suck and will never reach the super bowl again WOOOOO now im part of it to! Dont worry guys its sarcasm
