<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>If the Bears don't win this game, I'm going to be sick. The fact that Manning has even gotten this close to SEEING the Lombardi trophy makes me throw up in my mouth a little. GO BEARS! (Unless Manning gets injured in pre-game warmups, in which case GO COLTS!)</div> Why do you hate Manning so much? Is it the fact that if he wins one he'll go down as the most decorated QB ever (sorry Packer and Dolphin fans he'll pass both Favre and Marino) and he'll have a ring? I'm curious I guess cause you really don't like him. </div> I don't like Manning because he is a cry-baby that throws his team under the bus after a loss. He whines to the league because players are getting too physical with his WRs. I thought football was supposed to be physical. Anyway, he makes commercial after commercial even though he is getting paid more by the Colts than any of us combined will ever see. Also, said commercials are stupid and I can't stand them especially when they play them over and over and over. Enough about Manning. I also hate the Colts in general because of one BILL POLIAN who is the biggest piece of shit of a human being that I've ever seen. Osama aint got shit on Polian, lol. J/K but they are pretty close to the same in my book. Anyone who wishes for a player to "break his fuckin' leg" is a 1st class loser in my book. What makes it even worse is that he is the president of an NFL team, not just a fan. Polian assaults and batters members of other teams' organizations and he also complains about their field surfaces if the field isn't perfect. So yeah, GO BEARS!!!!!!!!!!! EDIT: Also, Polian and Co. cranked up the heat in the dome during the game against us. I am not sayingthat is why we lost because it isn't. We were outplayed and that is all there is to it. my point is that this sack of shit will do anything necessary, legal or illegal, for his team to win. Bears fans, don't be surprised if Grossman, Urlacher, etc. get their knees blown out by some "unknown" person a day or two before the game. Polian will do whatever it takes for his team to win this Super Bowl.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (4THNLONGFELLOW)</div><div class='quotemain'>In the same regard as Rex, if Payton stinks up the joint they have the same possibility of losing as if Rex stinks up the joint. Would that make him a bad QB? :einstein:</div> people will say oh well peyton had a bad game.. rex does it its Rex sucks.. he is a crappy QB</div> The biggest reason for this is because Rex sucks on a fairly regular basis where as Peyton Manning doesn't have that many bad games. Grossman has had THREE games this year where his QB rating is 10 or less. It's hard to suck so bad that you get a 10 or less QB rating. I'm not saying that Rex can't improve, but if I had to put money on which QB was more likely to stink up the joint, my money is going on Grossman.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'>EDIT: Also, Polian and Co. cranked up the heat in the dome during the game against us. I am not sayingthat is why we lost because it isn't. We were outplayed and that is all there is to it. my point is that this sack of shit will do anything necessary, legal or illegal, for his team to win. Bears fans, don't be surprised if Grossman, Urlacher, etc. get their knees blown out by some "unknown" person a day or two before the game. Polian will do whatever it takes for his team to win this Super Bowl.</div> It's been reported that Polian was indirectly involved in Barrett Robbins disappearance before Oakland's superbowl a few years ago. He summoned a few females up to his hotel room, convinced him to go downstairs to the bar where they slipped Roofies into his drink. They then had 8 men carry him into a van, which sped away for Tijuana. In the end, Robbins missed the Superbowl, and Polian had his revenge for the Raiders beating the Colts in Indy earlier that season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you hate Manning so much? Is it the fact that if he wins one he'll go down as the most decorated QB ever (sorry Packer and Dolphin fans he'll pass both Favre and Marino) and he'll have a ring? I'm curious I guess cause you really don't like him.</div> 1. I'm sick and tired of seeing him every time I turn on the TV. 2. He's said many times that his goal is to break records. He cares about individual achievement more than team achievement and is, perhaps, the only NFL player who takes the Pro Bowl seriously. 3. He plays on a team that spends twice as much money on offense as they do on defense every year, so is it a wonder that he's had so much success? I mean, if you put any QB behind the o-lines he's played with in his career and throw in a 1500+ yard rusher every year, how could you NOT be "the best ever?" What can I say? I just don't like the guy.</div> Uhh.....yeah, you gotta be one of the dumbest people here...Hating on the uinquestioned best QB in the league today by far.....Why not hate on Brees?He has had Deuce/Reggie and LT....Does that make him overrated, too?Hell no, they both get everything they deserve cause they earned it.... It's sad to see fans act like such ignorant people.....Really ruins sports in general when you're a complete jack-a^^..ya know? Anyway, congratulations to the Bears on making it all the way..I got a lot of respect for them, I think they do get a little bit disrespected by the media at times this year but so do the Niners and almost everybody else in the league..playing that card is not right because the same could be said about the Chiefs....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (4THNLONGFELLOW)</div><div class='quotemain'>In the same regard as Rex, if Payton stinks up the joint they have the same possibility of losing as if Rex stinks up the joint. Would that make him a bad QB? :einstein:</div> people will say oh well peyton had a bad game.. rex does it its Rex sucks.. he is a crappy QB</div> The biggest reason for this is because Rex sucks on a fairly regular basis where as Peyton Manning doesn't have that many bad games. Grossman has had THREE games this year where his QB rating is 10 or less. It's hard to suck so bad that you get a 10 or less QB rating. I'm not saying that Rex can't improve, but if I had to put money on which QB was more likely to stink up the joint, my money is going on Grossman.</div> Ok but Peyton Didn't fair that well his first season as a regular starter either.. But has become inceredible QB.. Grossman has all he needs to be a very Good QB but he lacks experience.. Even the GREAT peyton struggled
And to help prove my point here is Peytons stats for his First year of actually playing 1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 575 326 56.7 3739 6.50 78 26 28 22/109 42 8 71.2 Now rex Grossmans 2006 Chicago Bears 16 16 480 262 54.6 3193 6.65 62 23 20 21/142 47 8 73.9 the numbers are very close for an actual first full season.. Rex does lose points for knowing the system alittle better then i am sure manning did.. But Rex didn't have the actual game experience so this is pretty par for the course.. He just decided to wrap all the bad stats into 5 games instead of overshadowing the bad with good
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>And to help prove my point here is Peytons stats for his First year of actually playing 1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 575 326 56.7 3739 6.50 78 26 28 22/109 42 8 71.2 Now rex Grossmans 2006 Chicago Bears 16 16 480 262 54.6 3193 6.65 62 23 20 21/142 47 8 73.9 the numbers are very close for an actual first full season.. Rex does lose points for knowing the system alittle better then i am sure manning did.. But Rex didn't have the actual game experience so this is pretty par for the course.. He just decided to wrap all the bad stats into 5 games instead of overshadowing the bad with good</div> Simple fact is Peyton had little suporting cast...He was a rookie thrust into the situation on a horrific team.... Rex is a mediocre player on an extremely good team in his what like 3rd or 4th year of the league....The circumstances are far different..to compare the two is like comparing Malcolm X to Bryan Gumble....Simply, no.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>... if you dont respect grossman you dont repsect bears. Its a team. He is part of it. Not respecting him is like not respecting urlacher. They are all as one. You cant disrespect one part of a building without disrespecting the entire buildiing.</div> I don't agree. I can really dig the Arrowhead stadium complex, but really hate the visiting locker room on Raider day.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>And to help prove my point here is Peytons stats for his First year of actually playing 1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 575 326 56.7 3739 6.50 78 26 28 22/109 42 8 71.2 Now rex Grossmans 2006 Chicago Bears 16 16 480 262 54.6 3193 6.65 62 23 20 21/142 47 8 73.9 the numbers are very close for an actual first full season.. Rex does lose points for knowing the system alittle better then i am sure manning did.. But Rex didn't have the actual game experience so this is pretty par for the course.. He just decided to wrap all the bad stats into 5 games instead of overshadowing the bad with good</div> Your comparing apples and oranges. Manning was a far better QB and far more gifted player coming out than Grossman. A lot of scouts to this day believe Manning is the greatest QB prospect to ever come out. I remember reading an article stating just as much. To even compare Grossman to a 1st ballot Hall of Famer is a complete joke. One thing Grossman will never have is Manning?s on the field awareness. Manning is probably one of the smartest QB?s to ever play the game. Keep in mind Manning was a rookie. Accept it or not Grossman has had 3 years to learn the current system he?s in and Grossman is on a far better team than the 1998 Indianapolis Colts. Yes Grossman is young. Yes he's only started 26 games but he's still a very inconsistent player that has cost the Bears some games this season. He?s had far more worst games than Manning has had this season. He has a long ways to go to get into the league of Peyton Manning.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP-33)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>And to help prove my point here is Peytons stats for his First year of actually playing 1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 575 326 56.7 3739 6.50 78 26 28 22/109 42 8 71.2 Now rex Grossmans 2006 Chicago Bears 16 16 480 262 54.6 3193 6.65 62 23 20 21/142 47 8 73.9 the numbers are very close for an actual first full season.. Rex does lose points for knowing the system alittle better then i am sure manning did.. But Rex didn't have the actual game experience so this is pretty par for the course.. He just decided to wrap all the bad stats into 5 games instead of overshadowing the bad with good</div> Simple fact is Peyton had little suporting cast...He was a rookie thrust into the situation on a horrific team.... Rex is a mediocre player on an extremely good team in his what like 3rd or 4th year of the league....The circumstances are far different..to compare the two is like comparing Malcolm X to Bryan Gumble....Simply, no.</div> Umm, he didnt have supporting cast? Marshall faulk? Marvin Harrison? They dont count?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>And to help prove my point here is Peytons stats for his First year of actually playing 1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 575 326 56.7 3739 6.50 78 26 28 22/109 42 8 71.2 Now rex Grossmans 2006 Chicago Bears 16 16 480 262 54.6 3193 6.65 62 23 20 21/142 47 8 73.9 the numbers are very close for an actual first full season.. Rex does lose points for knowing the system alittle better then i am sure manning did.. But Rex didn't have the actual game experience so this is pretty par for the course.. He just decided to wrap all the bad stats into 5 games instead of overshadowing the bad with good</div> Your comparing apples and oranges. Manning was a far better QB and far more gifted player coming out than Grossman. A lot of scouts to this day believe Manning is the greatest QB prospect to ever come out. I remember reading an article stating just as much. To even compare Grossman to a 1st ballot Hall of Famer is a complete joke. One thing Grossman will never have is Manning?s on the field awareness. Manning is probably one of the smartest QB?s to ever play the game. Keep in mind Manning was a rookie. Accept it or not Grossman has had 3 years to learn the current system he?s in and Grossman is on a far better team than the 1998 Indianapolis Colts. Yes Grossman is young. Yes he's only started 26 games but he's still a very inconsistent player that has cost the Bears some games this season. He?s had far more worst games than Manning has had this season. He has a long ways to go to get into the league of Peyton Manning.</div> your completely missing what i am saying.. Never once did I say Rex would be in Mannings league.. Could He be? Yes someday.. I am comparing the stats of the 2 QB's from their first full season played.. Rex did know the play book thats where he loses points... But his lack of actual game experience shows.. Just like it showed manning was a rookie.. This has nothing to do with scouting reports since we all know it a crock of shit.. if the scouting reports were so knowledgeable then why Take Ryan Leaf #2 overall???? Or akili Smith #3 overall??? Why Take Tom Brady in the 6th instead of the first..They only say manning is the best prospect ever because he has worked out in the league.. and amazingly enough just last year i heard Bush was the best prospect ever.. Kind of a catch 22. Grossman is Far from a Hall of fame QB But He could be the next manning.. Or the Next Tom Brady.. time will tell. Oh one more thing get the Facts right.. he hasn't had 3 Years to learn the system since this is the first Year he has had the same system since FLORDIA.. Last year was the first.. this is his second in this system.. and i said thats where he loses Points
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bears#1Fan)</div><div class='quotemain'>your completely missing what i am saying.. Never once did I say Rex would be in Mannings league.. Could He be? Yes someday.. I am comparing the stats of the 2 QB's from their first full season played.. Rex did know the play book thats where he loses points... But his lack of actual game experience shows.. Just like it showed manning was a rookie.. This has nothing to do with scouting reports since we all know it a crock of shit.. if the scouting reports were so knowledgeable then why Take Ryan Leaf #2 overall???? Or akili Smith #3 overall??? Why Take Tom Brady in the 6th instead of the first..They only say manning is the best prospect ever because he has worked out in the league.. and amazingly enough just last year i heard Bush was the best prospect ever.. Kind of a catch 22. Grossman is Far from a Hall of fame QB But He could be the next manning.. Or the Next Tom Brady.. time will tell. Oh one more thing get the Facts right.. he hasn't had 3 Years to learn the system since this is the first Year he has had the same system since FLORDIA.. Last year was the first.. this is his second in this system.. and i said thats where he loses Points</div> I don't remember ever hearing Bush was the best prospect ever especially at RB. In fact most think Adrian Peterson is a better RB prospect than Bush. You can't compare a rookie to a 4th year player. No matter how you want to twist it Grossman is in his 4th year. He was around an NFL locker room for 4 years. He's been in an NFL like atmosphere for 4 games. Prior to this season he even played in a playoff game. He has 4 year of NFL experience. He's seen the game before. He played in 10 games before the start of this season. Peyton Manning as a rookie was just that. He was seeing everything for the very 1st time in his career. He was on a far worse team. Grossman is on a team with 2 solid running backs and most importantly a fantastic defense and fantastic coach.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Never once did I say Rex would be in Mannings league.. Could He be? Yes someday.</div> Um...no. As much as I think Manning is a douche bag, there is no way that Grossman will ever be HALF as good. Not now. Not ever. Manning's taller. He's got a better (laser, rocket :reallysick arm. He has a more commanding presence in the huddle. He's a field general who always knows what's going on in the game. In the Championship game, Grossman didn't know the quarter was expiring. He tried to call two timeouts in a row. He made a bunch of glaring mistakes that the announcers kept pointing out and the whole time he did it with a deer in the headlights look on his face. He made three or four decent throws in the entire game and only one in the first half (to Desmond Clark). As Porky keeps pointing out, Grossman is in his 4th year and Manning STILL looked more composed as a rookie than Grossman does now. Grossman might "someday" develop into a serviceable QB, but he won't ever be half as good as Manning is.
Its fun saying "Go Colts" at school. You should see peoples faces. Heres an example I cant wait till the Superbowl. Go Colts.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Never once did I say Rex would be in Mannings league.. Could He be? Yes someday.</div> Um...no. As much as I think Manning is a douche bag, there is no way that Grossman will ever be HALF as good. Not now. Not ever. Manning's taller. He's got a better (laser, rocket :reallysick arm. He has a more commanding presence in the huddle. He's a field general who always knows what's going on in the game. In the Championship game, Grossman didn't know the quarter was expiring. He tried to call two timeouts in a row. He made a bunch of glaring mistakes that the announcers kept pointing out and the whole time he did it with a deer in the headlights look on his face. He made three or four decent throws in the entire game and only one in the first half (to Desmond Clark). As Porky keeps pointing out, Grossman is in his 4th year and Manning STILL looked more composed as a rookie than Grossman does now. Grossman might "someday" develop into a serviceable QB, but he won't ever be half as good as Manning is.</div> At least he will have the ring!
First off congrats Bear fans. I havn't beem a coward but my internet was down the last month. Also I will man up and get my avatar changed. I'm also part of the group that hates Peyton more then I hate the Bears so go Chicago. Funny thing is so many people hate Peyton but many like me have no idea why. I guess some guys just aren't as likable. Also not Peyton's fault but the whole Archie not letting Eli go to San Diego has truned me off from that family. Funny thing is even if Peyton does win it this year his I'll have a hard time still seeing him as being a great playoff QB cause unless he has a light out game Sunday he'll have probably the worst stats ever for a SB QB. He can thank the D for gettining the monkey off his back Since I'm in a good mood also congrats to BF for winning another FF title by the looks of things
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CanadianFavreFan)</div><div class='quotemain'>First off congrats Bear fans. I havn't beem a coward but my internet was down the last month. Also I will man up and get my avatar changed. I'm also part of the group that hates Peyton more then I hate the Bears so go Chicago. Funny thing is so many people hate Peyton but many like me have no idea why. I guess some guys just aren't as likable. Also not Peyton's fault but the whole Archie not letting Eli go to San Diego has truned me off from that family. Funny thing is even if Peyton does win it this year his I'll have a hard time still seeing him as being a great playoff QB cause unless he has a light out game Sunday he'll have probably the worst stats ever for a SB QB. He can thank the D for gettining the monkey off his back Since I'm in a good mood also congrats to BF for winning another FF title by the looks of things</div> Yeah, i won regular season, not the actual title
here we go again... another good team claiming they get no respect. Let it go your team is in the superbowl congrats but people talking about bears have no chance are just people who dont knwo football. Everyone who knows football knwos that this game can go either way. Like DD said dont let patriots fans mentality sink into your head.
