JFK conspiracy.

Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is usually the right one. That would be that JFK was president, and there's always all kinds of international and domestic intrigue going on. Oswald surely killed Kennedy, and all the rest looks like people trying make a buck selling books and movies.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (agoo101284 @ Jul 10 2008, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was watching something on the History Channel on this topic a while back than determined that the shot was possible and guy with similar training to LHO hit a nearly identical shot on his first try.

A few of the things of note where the difference in heights between Kennedy and the Governor and the position of Kennedy's right arm. That explains the differences in the photo that Pegs posted here. The arrow location on Kennedy's jacket is correct, but his arm was elevated, which moved his jacket up in the back and the HC show explained how the hole in the jacket lined up with the projected location of the exit wound, which I think was lower than the photo that Pegs posted.

If I remember right, the show analyzed a few different video views of that event and used illustration software to recreate the entire scene. The only thing they couldn't figure out from the videos was the location of the Governor's left forearm and hand. The end of the show was a similarly trained marksman taking the same shot. He perfectly replicated Kennedy's wounds and the shoulder wound on the Governor. The only thing he was unable to do was get the bullet to lodge in the Governor's leg as the bullet hit either a rib or his wrist on the way out and only bounced off his thigh.</div>

I saw that, too. They used the Zapruter film, frame by frame, to position 3D models of the car and the people and found the shot from the schoolbook repository hit both Kennedy and Connolly without any magic to it.

http://www.pennandteller.com/03/coolstuff/...racytheory.html

Bullshit!: Conspiracy Theory - 3/21/05

We're shooting the last batch of "Bullshit!s" for Showtime. It's on Conspiracy Theories, and we're using the research Penn did for "How to Play with your Food," about Dr. Luis Alvarez's explanation of why Kennedy's head moved towards origin of the shot instead of away from it.

Alvarez proved it was counterintuitive physics. Roughly: the movement imparted by the goop pouring out the exit wound created a sort of jet stream that was stronger than that of the tiny hole made by the entrance wound. So the head moved back towards the shooter. Alvarez tested his theory by taking a melon, to represent brain, and wrapping it in fiberglass tape, to represent skull. He shot his melon and, as he predicted, it rocketed right back towards the source of the gunfire.

We wanted to reproduce this experiment ourselves, full action, highspeed camera. So I went with the crew to a gun shop with a firing range. The place was packed with people. More employees than Wal-Mart at xmas and several customers for every salesperson. And this was a Monday afternoon. On weekends there's a line out the door.

I met my instructor, Tony, a silver-haired, tan, 20 year veteran of the police force (where he taught firearms skills). Since retiring from the police, Tony has been teaching marksmanship and gun safety to hobbyists for fifteen years.

He's disgusted and incredulous at the sheer ignorance of anybody who doubts Oswald could have killed Kennedy.

"It was easy shot. Stevie Wonder could have made it," he said and reeled off the exact distances of Oswald's three shots. "I took my gun club out on the desert. We used the exact same make and model of rifle. We set up all the same distances and elevations. Nineteen of the guys hit all three shots, and the other four guys couldn't hit a bull in the ass with a coal shovel. And don't forget, Oswald only hit two out of three."

While the crew set up, Tony took me into another range for some practice. The Mannlicher Carcano rifle was a duplicate of Oswald's, except that it didn't have a telescopic sight; I was holding in my hands, not on a stand, which makes aiming harder. I shot the target smack through the heart three times. "Okay, that's enough practice," said Tony.

I went into the gun safety classroom to don wardrobe and makeup. The classroom walls were covered with diagrams showing how bullets fire and how to ensure safe handling, and with credentials, certificates of appreciation, and awards from police organizations.

Dressed, I was ready to shoot, in both senses. The crew and I set up two melons on stands. The one representing JFK was wrapped in fiberglass tape; the one representing Jackie was wearing a pink pillbox hat. We photographed me loading the gun, then took an "art" shot of me shooting from the point of view of the melon (using blanks, of course). Finally it was time really to shoot the melon.

"This gun shoots a little high, so aim the sights about an inch below where you want it," said Tony. I aimed and squeezed the trigger. A perfect hit. As Alvarez said it would, the melon goop "brain" blew out the front and shot the melon backwards. As an added bonus, the goop knocked off Jackie Melon Kennedy's pillbox hat. I shot again, hit a little off center, but even then, the melon came towards me and the pillbox blew off. I shot one final time. Dead center, melon back at me, the most perfect shot of all. Our director/producer Star Price asked if I wanted to shoot some more. I asked him if he had the shot he needed. He did. So I thanked everybody and left.

It's hard to digest the idea that a pallid loser, Lee Harvey Oswald could annihilate radiant John Fitzgerald Kennedy, the most powerful and glamorous man on the earth. But after talking to Tony and blasting the brains out of a tape-wrapped melon, I'm triply convinced that the Kennedy assassination can be best described like this:

Oswald and Kennedy were men of flesh and blood. One of them pointed a gun at the other and shot.

Teller

 

"That would be that JFK was president, and there's always all kinds of international and domestic intrigue going on."

I thought I addressed the issues surrounding the conspiracies regarding foreign powers and the Mafia with that statement.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 11 2008, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 11 2008, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>"That would be that JFK was president, and there's always all kinds of international and domestic intrigue going on."

I thought I addressed the issues surrounding the conspiracies regarding foreign powers and the Mafia with that statement.</div>

Mafia? No, I was thinking Cubans, Soviets, FBI, and CIA...


You think Oswald acted alone? On his own terms?
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Yes. I think Oswald was a nut job, with his own motivations. The FBI was run by J. Edgar Hoover and had been doing all kinds of nasty things all along, coincidentally to JFK's presidency. Soviets wouldn't assassinate the US president, that's a huge joke of a conspiracy theory. Cubans? Doubtful.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jul 11 2008, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 11 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes. I think Oswald was a nut job, with his own motivations. The FBI was run by J. Edgar Hoover and had been doing all kinds of nasty things all along, coincidentally to JFK's presidency. Soviets wouldn't assassinate the US president, that's a huge joke of a conspiracy theory. Cubans? Doubtful.</div>
Like what exactly? I'm just curious.
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Like spying on MLK Jr. and getting "dirt" on anyone in power that Hoover could use to blackmail them.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 11 2008, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 11 2008, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 11 2008, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 11 2008, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>"That would be that JFK was president, and there's always all kinds of international and domestic intrigue going on."

I thought I addressed the issues surrounding the conspiracies regarding foreign powers and the Mafia with that statement.</div>

Mafia? No, I was thinking Cubans, Soviets, FBI, and CIA...


You think Oswald acted alone? On his own terms?
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Yes. I think Oswald was a nut job, with his own motivations. The FBI was run by J. Edgar Hoover and had been doing all kinds of nasty things all along, coincidentally to JFK's presidency. Soviets wouldn't assassinate the US president, that's a huge joke of a conspiracy theory. Cubans? Doubtful.

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What's with Oswald's connections to Cubans, Soviets, the CIA, and the FBI?

And what of the letter to Hoover, received by the FBI, and ignored about a potential presidential assassination?
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Oswald was a nut job, what else is there to say? He wore out his welcome in the USSR, and maybe the FBI and/or CIA found him to be a useful tool as a low-level kind of operative or informant.

As for letters about potential crimes or whatever, I'm quite sure the govt. gets a huge volume of those kinds of things and they're all ignored for the most part.