http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2786731 If Miami chooses not to match they get New England's 2nd round pick.
I knew the moment Cleo Lemon, Welker, & Y. Bell were tendered that one or two would get offers. The following quote IMO is amusing; <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>while a 2nd round pick might sound enticing, it is late in the round (60th overall)</div> What's wrong about getting another first day pick for a guy who was picked up on waivers? Alot of phins fans are probably up in arms about WW going to a rival. Mueller has already gotten another 6th from Denver for Dan Wilkinson so the more draft picks the better.
Ditto that, however Welker is an exciting cat on Kick offs and really made strides at Receiver last year, but i think a 2nd is well worth it!
Welker is good but not 2nd round good. A couple years ago, teams wouldnt give up a 2nd rounder to get Shaun Alexander, who was not happy after getting franchised taged. A mid 3rd round pick would be fine for Welker, but not a 2nd rounder. I think the dolphins got the better end of the deal, because now they can give Derek Hagan more time. There is also a lot of good WRs in the draft, like Sidney Rice who is sliping to the early 2nd round. There is also Jason Hill, Anthony Gonzalez, Aundrie Allison and Steve Smith who they could get late 2nd or 3rd.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Welker is good but not 2nd round good. A couple years ago, teams wouldnt give up a 2nd rounder to get Shaun Alexander, who was not happy after getting franchised taged. A mid 3rd round pick would be fine for Welker, but not a 2nd rounder. I think the dolphins got the better end of the deal, because now they can give Derek Hagan more time. There is also a lot of good WRs in the draft, like Sidney Rice who is sliping to the early 2nd round. There is also Jason Hill, Anthony Gonzalez, Aundrie Allison and Steve Smith who they could get late 2nd or 3rd.</div> Lets not forget that there is always a Gem in the draft like marques Colston.. just has to find the right situation
Welker is not worth 37.8 million over 5 years. No 3rd WR/KR is. Miami getting a 2nd round pick for WW? Advantage goes to the phins. Maybe Miami can do what the Saints did last year i.e New coach w/ offensive background turning over 1/3 of the roster and making into the playoffs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Welker is not worth 37.8 million over 5 years. No 3rd WR/KR is. Miami getting a 2nd round pick for WW? Advantage goes to the phins. Maybe Miami can do what the Saints did last year i.e New coach w/ offensive background turning over 1/3 of the roster and making into the playoffs.</div> I don't know if Devin Hester kept this up i would pay him that much then some.. just to be the KR
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Welker is not worth 37.8 million over 5 years. No 3rd WR/KR is. Miami getting a 2nd round pick for WW? Advantage goes to the phins. Maybe Miami can do what the Saints did last year i.e New coach w/ offensive background turning over 1/3 of the roster and making into the playoffs.</div> I agree. Take the pick.
At 1st glance a 2nd round pick is high, but Welker is very young & he definitely has the kind of attributes that the Patriots like. I like the aggressive moves the Pats are making this offseason. And btw the deal is for 7 years not 5.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Welker is not worth 37.8 million over 5 years. No 3rd WR/KR is. Miami getting a 2nd round pick for WW? Advantage goes to the phins. Maybe Miami can do what the Saints did last year i.e New coach w/ offensive background turning over 1/3 of the roster and making into the playoffs.</div> Correct me if i am wrong, but he was #2 WR for dolphins last year, if not 1st in rec adn 2nd in yards
WW was the phins most productive receiver stats wise. I can't recall specifics off the top of my head. He was the #3 WR behind Chambers & Booker.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>WW was the phins most productive receiver stats wise. I can't recall specifics off the top of my head. He was the #3 WR behind Chambers & Booker.</div> True & he out performed both of them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>WW was the phins most productive receiver stats wise. I can't recall specifics off the top of my head. He was the #3 WR behind Chambers & Booker.</div> True & he out performed both of them.</div> This just simply isn't true. Bakes, do you ever bother to do a little research before spouting off this stuff? Yards Rec. 1. Booker 747 2. Welker 687 3. Chambers 677 Touchdowns 1. Booker 6 2. Chambers 4 3. Welker 1 Average 1. Booker 13.6 2. Chambers 11.5 3. Welker 10.3 # of Rec. 1. Welker 67 2. Chambers 59 3. Booker 55 I thought the world of Wes Welker and I hate to see him go, but let's not start making him more than he was. You also have to consider that Chambers and Booker were probably drawing the opposing teams best defensive backs and providing opportunities for Welker underneath. Still, Welker usually makes the most of his opportunities and you have to love his hustle. I'm not sure that he's worth a 2nd round draft pick though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>WW was the phins most productive receiver stats wise. I can't recall specifics off the top of my head. He was the #3 WR behind Chambers & Booker.</div> True & he out performed both of them.</div> This just simply isn't true. Bakes, do you ever bother to do a little research before spouting off this stuff? Yards Rec. 1. Booker 747 2. Welker 687 3. Chambers 677 Touchdowns 1. Booker 6 2. Chambers 4 3. Welker 1 Average 1. Booker 13.6 2. Chambers 11.5 3. Welker 10.3 # of Rec. 1. Welker 67 2. Chambers 59 3. Booker 55 I thought the world of Wes Welker and I hate to see him go, but let's not start making him more than he was. You also have to consider that Chambers and Booker were probably drawing the opposing teams best defensive backs and providing opportunities for Welker underneath. Still, Welker usually makes the most of his opportunities and you have to love his hustle. I'm not sure that he's worth a 2nd round draft pick though.</div> I think he is worth it. You get a good WR, a good KR, and a smart effort player. He knows how to get open and will be playing with a vastly superior QB. The money is a lot, but he is worth a 2nd rd pick
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>WW was the phins most productive receiver stats wise. I can't recall specifics off the top of my head. He was the #3 WR behind Chambers & Booker.</div> True & he out performed both of them.</div> This just simply isn't true. Bakes, do you ever bother to do a little research before spouting off this stuff? Yards Rec. 1. Booker 747 2. Welker 687 3. Chambers 677 Touchdowns 1. Booker 6 2. Chambers 4 3. Welker 1 Average 1. Booker 13.6 2. Chambers 11.5 3. Welker 10.3 # of Rec. 1. Welker 67 2. Chambers 59 3. Booker 55 I thought the world of Wes Welker and I hate to see him go, but let's not start making him more than he was. You also have to consider that Chambers and Booker were probably drawing the opposing teams best defensive backs and providing opportunities for Welker underneath. Still, Welker usually makes the most of his opportunities and you have to love his hustle. I'm not sure that he's worth a 2nd round draft pick though.</div> Considering his primary role to start the season was as a special teamer I'd say those #s speak volumes. Are they overpaying? Yes, but they're banking on his potential which at his age is huge. And with the sweetheart deal they just signed Adalius for they can afford to over spend a little.
I'll concede that the 2nd round draft pick is less questionable than the outrageous money that the Patriots spent on him, but I'm still not sure that I would give up a 2nd to aquire him. I'm not sure how much more of an upside he has either. He may be a little better as he gains NFL experience, but I don't ever see him being a #1 WR on any team. He's a good kick returner, but not great. He's only had one TD off of a kickoff and only 7 kickoff returns for more than 40 yards in 3 years with 4 of those coming two seasons ago. That's 7 kick returns over 40 yards out of 170 kick returns. He's never run a punt return back for a td and his punt returns of twenty yards have declined from 7 to 4 to 1 over his three seasons. His biggest asset is his quickness and his longevity will depend on him retaining that quickness as he gets older. I doubt that he will see the end of the contract that he signed with the Pats. As some point, the Patriots will decide that they have greater needs for that money and cut him. I hope I'm wrong though.
2 words = Steve Smith Ok that may be a stretch, but knowing he's gonna give 100% on each & every play makes me feel good about this deal.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>2 words = Steve Smith Ok that may be a stretch, but knowing he's gonna give 100% on each & every play makes me feel good about this deal.</div> Comparing WW to Steve Smith is a stretch not even Reed Richards can make. A better one might be to Wayne Chrebet. Wes was an overachiever on a team full of underachievers. It makes me laugh that New England is overpaying for two of Miami's role players (Welker & Morris). I guess Pioli & Belichick aren't quite the Mensa members some would like us to think. Don't even get me started on those buffoons in KC and what they are paying Damion McIntosh.
