Ricky Davis, Mark Blount for Walker Doleac, and a first round pick.</p> </p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Minnesota Timberwolves today announced the team has acquired forwards Antoine Walker and Wayne Simien and center Michael Doleac, along with a first-round draft pick and financial considerations from the Miami Heat in exchange for center Mark Blount and guard Ricky Davis.</div></p> </p> http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/wolve..._from_heat.html</p> </p> I like this trade for Miami, they get a decent big man, and a wing with Posey gone, they also get rid of Walker's contract. The Wolves get rid of a few old players, pick up Simien who was a first rounder who may emerge with playing time, as well as a 1st rounder, but they do get Walker's contract.</p>
Why is Miami always getting the better of the deals in trades! Like it's some kind of rule, that the Heat are always supposed to have the better of the deal.</p>
I'm not a fan of this deal for the T-Wolves. I really thought that they'd use Davis's expiring contract better than this.</p> Nice pickup for the Heat though, who get a better third scoring option than Walker was and Blount who I think we'll be great there.</p>
You have to be kidding me, I was hoping the Wizards would use the early injury to Dwayne Wade to get a lead on their division and grab a high seed in the playoffs. Either way, we'll have to contend with Miami big time now. The Heat will have less problems scoring the basketball now making them more competitive even without Wade. I still believe we'll win the division, they may have less trouble scoring the ball but Ricky Davis is a chucker.</p>
I have no idea why the Wolves will take Walkers huge ass contract if there rebuilding, doesn't make any sence.In Miami point of view good trade.</p>
Apparently Minnesota will buyout Walker and his contract had an option after 2008 so this makes sense for them to take him back and unload Blount's deal instead. Walker's deal with the option expires one season earlier than Blounts deal.</p> Still this trade largely favors Miami both in short and long term.</p> </p>
Walker was a big factor in the Heat getting past the Bulls in the playoffs two seasons ago. Then last year, his play fell way off and Miami got dusted by the Bulls. Shaq may be old, but he can still make the Heat a championship contender if he's healthy and in reasonably good shape. Wade needs to fully recover from his shoulder injury last year - he probably played too soon, which extended his recovery.</p> So subtract Walker and add Davis and it's a very big plus for the Heat. Blount is a freebie who'll also make a big contribution.</p> </p>
I think its a good trade for both teams and Minny's end of the deal isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. Minny is in full rebuild mode and while they lose out on talent, they gain financial flexibility and a 1st round pick. Blount is a mediocre, veteran big man who is overpaid and has several years left. Ricky Davis probably doesn't even want to be there, hes a decent trading chip, perhaps a bad influence on the young guys, and hes only going to take playing time and shots away from Brewer, G. Green, McCants, etc. Although Antoine Walker is garbage he does have a big, fat contract coming off the books after the 08/09 season (assuming the TWolves don't pick up the option). I've heard he may be bought out as well but I don't see that happening realistically because Walker would want 90% of the money of his contract while the Wolves could just wait two years and cut it off cleanly.</p> The Wolves still are/will be in salary cap hell but its one more contract they get rid of in the near future. Plus they get a first round draft pick, drop Blount, and get another expiring contract back in Doleac. Talent-wise they lose out, but for a team in their situation its just as important to drop a immovable contract like Blount, stockpile 1st round picks, and free up time for the young players.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I think its a good trade for both teams and Minny's end of the deal isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. Minny is in full rebuild mode and while they lose out on talent, they gain financial flexibility and a 1st round pick. Blount is a mediocre, veteran big man who is overpaid and has several years left. Ricky Davis probably doesn't even want to be there, hes a decent trading chip, perhaps a bad influence on the young guys, and hes only going to take playing time and shots away from Brewer, G. Green, McCants, etc. Although Antoine Walker is garbage he does have a big, fat contract coming off the books after the 08/09 season (assuming the TWolves don't pick up the option). I've heard he may be bought out as well but I don't see that happening realistically because Walker would want 90% of the money of his contract while the Wolves could just wait two years and cut it off cleanly.</p> The Wolves still are/will be in salary cap hell but its one more contract they get rid of in the near future. Plus they get a first round draft pick, drop Blount, and get another expiring contract back in Doleac. Talent-wise they lose out, but for a team in their situation its just as important to drop a immovable contract like Blount, stockpile 1st round picks, and free up time for the young players.</p> </div></p> Good points Run and I think the TWolves have already reached an agreement with Walker otherwise they wouldn't have made this trade. The Walker buyout helps balance this trade out, but I think a lot of people are disappointed Miami of all teams pulled this deal off. With Wade out and Shaq's nagging injuries, Miami could have been looking from the outside come playoff time. Ricky Davis and Blount will keep Miami competitive until Wade is back with the team.</p> Ricky Davis has shown he's willing to cooperate when he's on a winning team and Riley is the type of coach to keep Davis in check. Ricky was a role model player off the bench in Boston a few seasons ago. He willingly came off the bench and was one of the best 6th men in the league. He's the perfect 3rd scoring option for Miami.</p> </p> </p>
I don't see the point in the buyout. Walker's contract stays on the books. They may as well put him on a treadmill for a couple months and see if he can't get into playing shape.</p> JMHO</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I don't see the point in the buyout. Walker's contract stays on the books. They may as well put him on a treadmill for a couple months and see if he can't get into playing shape.</p> JMHO</p> </div></p> From what I can tell they benefit in two ways.</p> 1. Free's up a roster spot for a younger guy to play.</p> 2. The team can save money eventhough his contract still counts on the books if he agrees to a reasonable discount.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shapecity)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I don't see the point in the buyout. Walker's contract stays on the books. They may as well put him on a treadmill for a couple months and see if he can't get into playing shape.</p> JMHO</p> </div></p> From what I can tell they benefit in two ways.</p> 1. Free's up a roster spot for a younger guy to play.</p> 2. The team can save money eventhough his contract still counts on the books if he agrees to a reasonable discount.</p> </p> </div></p> Yeah, but I don't see those as real benefits. Even as 15th man, Walker is better than anyone they're likely to have. I don't think the savings is going to be very much - Walker can demand his full paycheck and has nothing to gain by settling for less.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shapecity)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I don't see the point in the buyout. Walker's contract stays on the books. They may as well put him on a treadmill for a couple months and see if he can't get into playing shape.</p> JMHO</p> </div></p> From what I can tell they benefit in two ways.</p> 1. Free's up a roster spot for a younger guy to play.</p> 2. The team can save money eventhough his contract still counts on the books if he agrees to a reasonable discount.</p> </p> </div></p> Yeah, but I don't see those as real benefits. Even as 15th man, Walker is better than anyone they're likely to have. I don't think the savings is going to be very much - Walker can demand his full paycheck and has nothing to gain by settling for less.</p> </p> </div></p> It isn't about talent, it is about being a good teammate. Shimmyboy would be a pure cancer on a team like the Wolves and with all of the young kids they have, it would take years to get that type of stench out of the team.</p> The money isn't the issue, it is the chemistry. Addition by subtraction.</p> </p>
And he won't accept being the 15th guy on the roster. He'll want to start or buyout his contract.</p>
After the KG trade went down, I seem to remember talk of Minnesota being well under the cap after this season. Is that correct? If so, they will probably use most, if not all, of that cap space up then and any relief they might get a year before theywere going to with Blount won't mean much. Then it would come down to just the players, and Miami gets a big edge there. Not quite sure what Minnesota was thinking. Then again, it is Minnesota.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan)</div><div class='quotemain'> Why is Miami always getting the better of the deals in trades! Like it's some kind of rule, that the Heat are always supposed to have the better of the deal.</p> </div></p> IthinkitismoreofarulethatMinnesotaissupposedtogettheworstofanydealtheymake.</p> </p>
II wont e surprised if Walker never see's a game in a Minasota jersey. it simply doesn't make sense that they wouldf take him on when everyone knows he's out of shape and is lacking motivation and direction. I think McHale has something in mind! Im betting Walker is traded again efore he suits up in minny.</p>
Getting rid of Ricky Davis and Mark Blount and buying out Antoine Walker are the first thngs Kevin McHale has ever done that make sense to me.</p> I guess he's more comfortable running a team with potential to be good years from now than a team that actually has a chance to win something.</p> </p>
