It wasbad enough that Bill Belicheathad Brady still throwing on the Redskins with a 30+ point lead in the 4th quarter, but we expect that type of behavior from that classless jerk. What I didn't expect was the verbal berating that came from Rich Eisen and the NFL's paragon of virtue, Deion Sanders over Coach Gibbs not shaking Belicheat's hand after the game. Stop the presses. At the end of GameDay, they did show a photo of Gibbs shaking hands with Belicheat after the game. So, rather than question the poor sportsmanship of Belicheat, Sanders and Eisen spun the whole issue to question the character of an such an honorable coach as Joe Gibbs. Now, folks can try and excuse Sanders and Eisen for getting faulty intelligence regarding the false rumor of Gibbs snubbing of Belicheat, but they were both aware that Belicheat ran the score up on the Redskins and the whores choose to ignore that and attack Gibbs instead. It makes my blood boil. What makes me even sicker is that the NFL isn't editing this edition of GameDayto take the slanderous opening out, so it will continue to play fairly constantly over the next 48 hours and unless people just happen to catch the ending of the program, they might just continue to believe the crap than Sanders spewed atthe opening of the show.</p> <p class="inside-copy">When asked why he went for a first down on a fourth-and-1 at the Washington 5 with 10 minutes left and a 38-0 lead, the New England coach said: "What did you want us to do? Kick a field goal?"</p> <p class="inside-copy">Yes, that's what a coach with class would do, but that's why, even though I'm disgusted, I'm not surprised.</p>
Rich Eisen continued the assault of Gibb's character when he announced the first three games being shown on NFL Replay this week. He said something about Gibbs wouldn't want to shake the selector's hands because they chose the Redskins-Patriots game. Nice, Rich. By the way, what the heck is the NFL Network doing? Their ads say that NFL Replay brings us some of the best games of the week, so why are they replaying this game. There weren't other games that were closer? Stupid media whores.</p>
I know as a Skins fan watching the game, you'd be insulted and pissed as hell to see the Patriots going for it on 4th down and playing as if they were behind, but I don't see any problems with that. If the Patriots want to win another Super Bowl, they'd better have the mentality to think so and that would probably mean crushing their opponents to dust. But how about blaming the defense for not doing its job? They're getting paid millions and millions of dollars a year, hell not even a year, but 4 months and they expect the opposition to tone it down a bit? I was listening to the post game radio show on Triple X and they talked about how Phillip Daniels and a few other defenders were mad that they tried to run up the score. Is this the mentality fans and coaches want to see from their players? To wave the white flag in mercy? I was pretty pissed to see the Patriots run up the score, but know that they didn't allow it, it was the Redskins defense that allowed it. You can blame them for running up the score, but it's every much bit the Redskins' fault for allowing that to happen.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Asian Zero)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I know as a Skins fan watching the game, you'd be insulted and pissed as hell to see the Patriots going for it on 4th down and playing as if they were behind, but I don't see any problems with that. If the Patriots want to win another Super Bowl, they'd better have the mentality to think so and that would probably mean crushing their opponents to dust. But how about blaming the defense for not doing its job? They're getting paid millions and millions of dollars a year, hell not even a year, but 4 months and they expect the opposition to tone it down a bit? I was listening to the post game radio show on Triple X and they talked about how Phillip Daniels and a few other defenders were mad that they tried to run up the score. Is this the mentality fans and coaches want to see from their players? To wave the white flag in mercy? I was pretty pissed to see the Patriots run up the score, but know that they didn't allow it, it was the Redskins defense that allowed it. You can blame them for running up the score, but it's every much bit the Redskins' fault for allowing that to happen.</p> </div></p> Personally, I think it's bad sportsmanship. No one can justify, to me, not kickinga field goal on 4thdown with a 30+ lead in the 4th quarter. If it can be justified, then the NFL really needs to review it's rules becausethere is something really wrong with the sport and what it is teaching tokids that follow the game. However, if you take a good look at the title of this thread, you will see the bigger issue for me is how the NFL Network is slandering Joe Gibbs' good name. Your not mad about the network basically putting a lie about Coach Gibbs on an endless loop and broadcasting it to the world?</p> </p>
DolfanDale, you have nothing else better to do than just start a weekly hate thread on the patriots. Every single week we get this from you.</p> We understand, you hate the Patriots with passion and want them to lose, maybe even die, get lost, kicked out of the league, etc etc etc.</p> Showing a bit of respect to the best team in the nfl, would be appriciated, but I know it won't come from you.</p>
I heard the Skins radio's went off during the game? Hummmm?</p> For real, why would anyone go for it on 4th and one when your up by 30? I am going to laugh when Peyton picks apart that D, and wins next week.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> DolfanDale, you have nothing else better to do than just start a weekly hate thread on the patriots. Every single week we get this from you.</p> We understand, you hate the Patriots with passion and want them to lose, maybe even die, get lost, kicked out of the league, etc etc etc.</p> Showing a bit of respect to the best team in the nfl, would be appriciated, but I know it won't come from you.</p> </div></p> CK, you really need to start reading my threads with some semblance ofobjectivity. Bill Belicheat is the only person in the Patriots organization that I have slammed in this thread and I feel that my point about his showing poor sportsmanship by running up the score is a valid one. Besides, as I have stated earlier, what I'm most upset about is the NFL Network's slander of Joe Gibbs. Turn your TV over to GameDay. The show is repeating and will keep repeating all night, so you can hear Deion Sanders slamming Joe Gibbs for not shaking Belicheat's hand over and over. Besides, I have plenty of respect for the best team in football and, hopefully, those Colts will beat the Patriots next week. Before you slam me for that, remember the Colts are currently undefeated, the defending World Champs and the last team to beat the Patriots. In my book, those three truths make the Colts the best team in the NFL.</p> Edit - CK, I just re-read your post and part of it just sunk in. I freely admit that I don't like the Patriots football team and I have no respect for Bill Belicheat what so ever. However, don't ever suggest that I want someone to die. That's uncalled for. As much as I love this sport and debating it on this message board, I have never lost perspective enough to wish anyone injury, let alone hope they die. But let me make one thing clear. I'm not a media whore and I won't dodge the ugly truths about the Patriots just because they are the popular bandwagon team, just like I haven't let guys like Michael ConVick off the hook because he was the most popular and over-rated player in the NFL. If I can bash my own team and it's players when it's called for, do you think I'm going to hesitate to knock other teams when they deserve it? I call things like I see them. Period.</p> </p>
Gee. Imagine Deion doing something clasless & getting attention. I am so shocked.</p> Slandering Gibbs is weak. Rich Eisen was never as good as Kenny Mayne who wasn't quite Keith Olbermann.</p> Bill B sure has a track record of questionable behavior, but enough about this season.</p> I hope Ed's wish in post #7 comes true.</p>
Am I the only one that says once you get to pro ball there is no more "running up the score?" Its the Redskin's job to stop the Patriots...the Patriots should not have to stop themselves. I think in all the other levels of play especially high school and other recreational leagues teams should refrain from running up the score, but these guys are pro's and adults. I believe that a team should be able to use a wide margin in the score to work on things for upcoming teams. It's a lot better to practice some plays against another team's defense than your own in practice. I do think its best to put in the 2nd/3rd team though for the respect of the other team as well as developing other players.</p> And in regards to the thread I defenitely see a double standard going on with the Patriots in the NFL here...</p>
^ I'm with you. Once you're good enough to walk over supposed contending teams like the Pats are, you have to set new goals or else you're going to get complacent. I think BB wants to get his Pats into the race for highest per-game scoring all time.</p> I think he waits a little long to put the reserves in to build up the score and reward his starters with extra stats. As for the backups going for it on 4-and-1's and whatnot, those guys don't want to walk the rest of the game out, they want to score, too. And it's good experience for them.</p> And I don't care what anyone says, even with the game decided, Matt Cassell running in that TD in the fourth quarter was still fun to watch.</p>
I agree. It's pretty blatant that the Pats are running up the score, but I don't think its necessarily a bad thing. The offense shouldn't be responsible for keeping the game close. They're job is to go out there and score as many points as they can. Why should they be worried about the feelings of their opposing team? That said, I'm still rooting for Tom Brady or one of their other major players to suffer a season ending surgery in the 4th quarter of a blowout game (both from a karma aspect and a humour aspect). This whole "We're going to prove everyone wrong for criticizing us" angle is getting a bit ridiculous. Everyone knew how good a team they were already and the Pats were unanimously thought of as Super Bowl contenders before the season started. Sure the media got a little overboard with the "spy camera" coverage but that's a given in this day and age. Playing this "us against the world" card is a bit childish.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geaux Tigers)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Am I the only one that says once you get to pro ball there is no more "running up the score?" Its the Redskin's job to stop the Patriots...the Patriots should not have to stop themselves. I think in all the other levels of play especially high school and other recreational leagues teams should refrain from running up the score, but these guys are pro's and adults. I believe that a team should be able to use a wide margin in the score to work on things for upcoming teams. It's a lot better to practice some plays against another team's defense than your own in practice. I do think its best to put in the 2nd/3rd team though for the respect of the other team as well as developing other players.</p> And in regards to the thread I defenitely see a double standard going on with the Patriots in the NFL here...</p> </div></p> I see a double standard going on with the Patriots here too. Bill Belicheat is caught cheating and admits to it and everyone, except the DWO and a few others, are falling over themselves to make excuses for his inexcusable behavior. The NFL Network accuses an decent and respected man like Joe Gibbs for an act of bad sportsmanship which turned out to be a fabrication and everyone thinks that's okay. <font size="1">(Anyone have Brett Favre's number? I think I'm going to need some Prilosec and I'm looking for a deal.)</font></p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geaux Tigers)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> And in regards to the thread I defenitely see a double standard going on with the Patriots in the NFL here...</p> </div></p> </p> And isn't coincedental that the pats have alot of former Bayou Bengals on their roster.</p> So, when do we start seeing an "unusal"# of Alabama players on the New England roster?</p>
I live in the DC area, and in all honesty, that hasn't made the news here. You have to consider that the ESPN and NFL Network people are paid to come up with stories. Some folks never let the truth get in the way.</p> </p> <font size="1">Once there were 2 Chinese, now look how many there is ! - Tao te Chang</font></p>
Exaclty, my problem is why didn't DolfanDale spend the energy of making a thread congratulating the Pats for what they've done, for being so good, etc. But every week we see a hate the pats thread, pats did this, pats did that. Always in a negative way.</p>
Whats stoping a LB from taking a cheap shot on Brady, when the game is allready in hand? I dont know about yall but Karma is a bitch, and id be laughing if it comes back to Belicheat.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geaux Tigers)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> And in regards to the thread I defenitely see a double standard going on with the Patriots in the NFL here...</p> </div></p> </p> And isn't coincedental that the pats have alot of former Bayou Bengals on their roster.</p> So, when do we start seeing an "unusal"# of Alabama players on the New England roster?</p> </div></p> I dont excatly understand your first point other than to say that I think the NFL and media in general are doing a minor cover up on the Pats. And as to your second point...there will defenitely be an increase in Alabama players being drafted by New England in about 3 years...</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Exaclty, my problem is why didn't DolfanDale spend the energy of making a thread congratulating the Pats for what they've done, for being so good, etc. But every week we see a hate the pats thread, pats did this, pats did that. Always in a negative way.</p> </div></p> Have you read the title of this thread? It's about the NFL Network slandering Joe Gibbs. The only person in the Patriots organization that I have slammed is Bill Belicheat. (Haven't I said this already?) I made mention of Belicheat's running up the score because it's relevant to the accusations made toward Gibbs. Gibbs was accused of not shaking hands with Belicheat because Belicheat ran up the score on the Redskins. Of course, that turned out to be a total fabrication because Gibbs did shake Belicheat's hand. The proof is the photo above. I didn't blame the Patriots team for running up the score. I blamed the man who made the decision to be jerk. Now, my main points were directed at the NFL Network for their irresponsible assault on Joe Gibbs' character, which ranks mighty high in my book. I find their 10 second oops at the end of the show to be inadequate to the point of being obscene when compared to the amount of time that they spent tearing his character down during the heart of the show. If the focus of this thread keeps sliding toward the Patriots it's because the Patriot fan base keeps dragging it there. Not a single one of the Patriot fans has tried to discuss the actual subject of this thread. </p> </p>
Is this High School football? Are mommy and daddy coming down at halftime to give the kids orange slices?</p> These are paid men playing against each other. This isn't the University of Florida scheduling Western Kentucky or Troy just to put a whipping on them. Its not the Patriots' job to stop the Patriots offense. If the Redskins can't stop them, then **** the Redskins. Particularly when the Pats put Matt Cassel in and he's got Kyle Eckel to hand it off to and Jabar Gaffney to throw to and the Skins still have their first string defense out there. These are professionals and sometimes professionals get smoked by a superior team. Deal with it.</p> Also, why is a Dolphin fan sticking up for a fight the Redskins don't seem particularly interested in?</p>
