Who do you think were the winners and losers? Winners Cleveland Browns Joe Thomas and Brady Quinn in the first round may take up alot of cash but it's worth it because they got a franchise tackle and quarterback of the future. Carolina Panthers Jon Beason, Charles Johnson, Dwayne Jarrett, Tim Shaw, and Ryan Kalil were great picks. It's a shame they didn't take Steve Smith so they would have two on their roster. Atlanta Falcons Jamaal Anderson, Chris Houston, and Justin Blalock were picks that definetely can contribute in their rookie season and will make an impact on defense and offense. Bill Belichick Getting Randy Moss from the Raiders is good enough. Matt Millen His "taking a WR in the first round" philosophy will pay off as they take Calvin Johnson who will team up with Roy Williams. They also took Drew Stanton who may become the future starter under the Mike Martz offense. All is well in the Motor City. Oakland The best pick in the draft is possibly Michael Bush in the fourth round. He is the #2 RB when healthy. Losers NFC North (Besides Minnesota) Adrian Peterson is going to make some noise in the division. Brett Favre Unless Harrell plays offense, that's not going to give Favre more options. Miami Dolphins Quarterback situation still an issue after passing on Quinn to get Ginn. San Diego Chargers Craig Davis was a reach and they gave alot to take Eric Weddle at #37. Brady Quinn He lost alot of money and he is going to face some stiff defenses 6 games a year.
Winners - you got to put Cleveland up there as a huge winner from what we currently know about Quinn. I'd also put Minnesota, Carolina, and Detroit as winners. Losing the biggest would have to be Calvin Johnson - he just ended up in the receiver graveyard.
I really like what the Niners, Colts, & Seattle did. Other than #9, Miami's 2nd, 3rd, & 4th round picks were real good IMO. I am preferential to the 37th overall pick
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Winners - you got to put Cleveland up there as a huge winner from what we currently know about Quinn.</div> Trading away next yrs first always works real well. Baltimore & Buffalo are proof. The pick Cleveland ended up trading away to move back up eventually netted Philly a QB... isn't that interesting?
Winners: Dallas Cowboys Getting the Browns to give up their first round pick next year? Priceless. You know the Browns are only going to win 4 or 5 games if they're lucky because you know they're going to start Quinn. Cowboys are going to have a top five pick in next year's draft.
Brett Favre Unless Harrell plays offense, that's not going to give Favre more options... Yes Favre didnt get help with the first pick, but our D got stronger.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>Winners: Dallas Cowboys Getting the Browns to give up their first round pick next year? Priceless. You know the Browns are only going to win 4 or 5 games if they're lucky because you know they're going to start Quinn. Cowboys are going to have a top five pick in next year's draft.</div> Dallas & Cleveland traded twice over the weekend. Jerry Jones wheeled & dealed and screwed the Brownies (mmmmmm Brownies bA says doing his best Homer Simpson impersonation) twiceIMO FWIW; Cleveland & Miami are scheduled to play in 07.... ought to be real interesting.
I liked the panthers draft except for not picking Ben Patrick instead of that TE from Oregon. I was really high on Patrick since the senior bowl, and will be pissed if Patrick is like Colston this year. I liked the Vikings draft, Colts, Cardinals, Cowboys and Raiders. I liked the raiders getting Josh McCown and Mike Williams for a 4th round pick and drafting Micheal Bush.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Brett Favre Unless Harrell plays offense, that's not going to give Favre more options.</div> More like the whole Packers organization, not just Brett Favre. If you look at it, how did Ted Thompson address the needs of the Packers as a whole? With an injured DT, a safety who was benched by his team, a linebacker we're going to try to convert to fullback and a running back that everyone agrees plays scared and can't break anything more than arm tackles. Oh...and a kicker. Go Ted Thompson! The draft grades I've seen for the Packers on various sites have generally ranged from C- to D...and I think that may be generous. I've been wrong before. Hopefully I'm wrong again.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Brett Favre Unless Harrell plays offense, that's not going to give Favre more options.</div> More like the whole Packers organization, not just Brett Favre. If you look at it, how did Ted Thompson address the needs of the Packers as a whole? With an injured DT, a safety who was benched by his team, a linebacker we're going to try to convert to fullback and a running back that everyone agrees plays scared and can't break anything more than arm tackles. Oh...and a kicker. Go Ted Thompson! The draft grades I've seen for the Packers on various sites have generally ranged from C- to D...and I think that may be generous. I've been wrong before. Hopefully I'm wrong again.</div> It's not pretty in Green Bay that's for sure. People have already made up there mind that these players are nothing more than rejects. Harry Sydney is criticizing Thompson top to bottom. What I hate though is the bashing of Harrell because he was hurt. Ahman Green was hurt in 05 and came back at age 29 and ran for 1,000 yards. Why can't an early 20 something year old DT whom a lot of people projected to be the top DT before the 06 season started return from injury in 07? It makes no sense to bash the guy without watching him play. I'm not crazy about the pick but I've heard a lot of good things about the guy and the fact that he was willing to get taped up for the Florida game this year and go out and play instead of going in for surgery the week before is awfully darn impressive. As for Jackson, Mortenson said that he would stay hours after practice working on the little things. That's a plus for me. However he does seem more of a 3rd down back. So McCarthy and Bennett must really believe in Vernand Morency. So while I agree it's an average draft on paper it's to early to dig the Packers grave in my opinion. I will say this draft is based on a lot of potential so it's either going to get Thompson an extension or he'll get the boot after this year because the fans are fed up with the conservative approach he has to building a team. My question is would the fans be this mad if Brett Favre was no longer around? It seems like they are obsessed with wanting him to get a ring and then retire like John Elway did and Packer fans will accept nothing less. While I'd love to see that happen if Thompson feels in his mind he made the right moves for the Green Bay Packers and not Brett Favre, then he made the right picks because the right moves for the Packers are also the right moves for #4.
I'm not bagging on Harrell because he's hurt. I'm bagging on Thompson because he probably could have traded down with a team like New England, who had two picks, and still gotten him. I think Mel Kiper said that he had a great pro day and put up 28 or so reps on the bench press, even though he was only 90% recovered. I think that says a lot. I think he'll probably be pretty good... And to answer your question, no. I wouldn't be this mad if Favre weren't still around.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The best pick in the draft is possibly Michael Bush in the fourth round. He is the #2 RB when healthy.</div> I agree about Bush. That was a steal. The Raiders really bumped up their offensive power this draft with Russel & Bush. Chief's fans may have to stop their habit of marking both Raider games as wins when the schedule comes out. (But not this year.) <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Losing the biggest would have to be Calvin Johnson - he just ended up in the receiver graveyard.</div> LOL! He got Millenized. :crying:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not bagging on Harrell because he's hurt. I'm bagging on Thompson because he probably could have traded down with a team like New England, who had two picks, and still gotten him.</div> PA; I feel your pain.
I don't think Harrell is a bad pick for the Packers. I just thought that they made little effort to help Favre in his possibly last season as a Packer. They can try to make it more memorable since he may be doing even more with the offense with the absense of a starter at the RB position. And at the time when Harrell was chosen, I thought it was a major reach since I thought he was a second round pick but then again, what do I know besides looking at a few draft sites.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Winners - you got to put Cleveland up there as a huge winner from what we currently know about Quinn. I'd also put Minnesota, Carolina, and Detroit as winners. Losing the biggest would have to be Calvin Johnson - he just ended up in the receiver graveyard.</div> From now on, no one should ever doubt that Millen will spend his yearly top 5 pick on another WR. "He won't take another WR, even if it is CJ," but he did. Mike Williams was hyped almost as much as CJ a couple years, if you remember. Anyway, the Raiders have Williams now, and makes it a perfect opportunity to ressurect a seemingly lost career.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kcgsc)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The best pick in the draft is possibly Michael Bush in the fourth round. He is the #2 RB when healthy.</div> I agree about Bush. That was a steal. The Raiders really bumped up their offensive power this draft with Russel & Bush. Chief's fans may have to stop their habit of marking both Raider games as wins when the schedule comes out. (But not this year.)</div> You probably know more about Bush than I do. I haven't watched any Louisville games, but his touchdown record looks impressive. The thing that worries me about that guy is that he may not fully recover from the leg injury. I read a bit about it, it seems really gnarley. I thought that Buffalo was crazy a couple years ago when they took a completely destroyed Willis McGahee, and in the first round. Willis proved that you can come back from what might be a career-ending injury. Why don't ya go ahead and mark those two games with a W next to the Raider side of the sheet.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kcgsc)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The best pick in the draft is possibly Michael Bush in the fourth round. He is the #2 RB when healthy.</div> I agree about Bush. That was a steal. The Raiders really bumped up their offensive power this draft with Russel & Bush. Chief's fans may have to stop their habit of marking both Raider games as wins when the schedule comes out. (But not this year.)</div> You probably know more about Bush than I do. I haven't watched any Louisville games, but his touchdown record looks impressive. The thing that worries me about that guy is that he may not fully recover from the leg injury. I read a bit about it, it seems really gnarley. I thought that Buffalo was crazy a couple years ago when they took a completely destroyed Willis McGahee, and in the first round. Willis proved that you can come back from what might be a career-ending injury. Why don't ya go ahead and mark those two games with a W next to the Raider side of the sheet.</div> Let not put the cart in front of the horse, <strike>Galvy</strike>...err...ROTR. Sorry, old habits die hard. I can see our D-line helping JaMarcus lie down for nap time this season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kcgsc)</div><div class='quotemain'>I can see our D-line helping JaMarcus lie down for nap time this season.</div> The Chiefs a threat on D? You do realize that Sims was traded & Hicks was cut? I think Sapp & Co putting the hurt on Croyle or Huard is a more likely scenario.
The Chef's offensive strategy will again be to go big, double TE, and run it between the tackles. Anything else is just asking for trouble against the Raider D. The Rams did the same thing with Stephen Jackson when they came. Chiefs defense? Show me something.
