Big Cat needs 2 work his ass off,so he can start over collins.Collins cant do shyts,cept set a scream,and he hasn't scored in 10 straight regular-season games.If u cant score,@ least get sum rebounds.Look @ big ben</p>
If Sean were to become the first big off the bench, we might see some mistakes but i think for the most part he would be fine. Also, him coming off the bench first would hopefully push Allen and Magliore to work harder so they can prove they are the "first big off the bench".</p>
It's not that Cat isn't in shape, but he's got some work ahead of him. Mikki Moore's jumper looked like garbage until he got the start. Cat needs a little confidence and alot of J-Kidd. When we decide to play through Cat in the post, he'll be a revelation. Until he can proove to Frank that he's legit, he's not gonna be spoonfed. JMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jerkstore)</div><div class='quotemain'>It's not that Cat isn't in shape, but he's got some work ahead of him. Mikki Moore's jumper looked like garbage until he got the start. Cat needs a little confidence and alot of J-Kidd. When we decide to play through Cat in the post, he'll be a revelation. Until he can proove to Frank that he's legit, he's not gonna be spoonfed. JMO.</div></p> LOL,i agree.I hated Mikki in da beginnin'</p> </p>
Actually I'm all for not starting Krstic vs. the Hawks. I'd much rather see Sean get in, maybe Allen. But either way, we could use Sean bigtime vs Atl.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jerkstore)</div><div class='quotemain'>[snip] until he got the start. [snip]</div></p> Exactly. It's almost unfair to judge these guys (Williams, Allen, Magloire, even Boone) until they get a full chance.</p> Roll the dice. Play some of the others over Collins. How much worse can it be?</p> </p>
Aright, first off, L - Magloire is nothing like Moore, haha. Magloire's a bruiser, not very athletic, not fast, no jumper, okay shotblocker, and a good rebounder. Mikki is a fast, pretty athletic hustler player, he can knock down the shot, but ain't that great at defense.</p> I don't believe Sean should necessarily be the 1st big off the bench, tho, maybe the 2nd or 3rd. But i do believe that if he is doing good, he deserves more minutes for his hard work.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bullitt245)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Sean definitely needs to play more... let him get his bumps and bruises out of the way while we can still win. Both Collins and Magloire need to step up. If I was Frank, I'd be ready to go small and start Boki... just to shake things up... Collins blows.</p> </div></p> </p> Great avatar and sig, bulitt!</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kdub)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bullitt245)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Sean definitely needs to play more... let him get his bumps and bruises out of the way while we can still win. Both Collins and Magloire need to step up. If I was Frank, I'd be ready to go small and start Boki... just to shake things up... Collins blows.</p> </div></p> </p> Great avatar and sig, bulitt!</p> </div></p> </p> I'm a bit torn. I want Sean Williams to get out there, but I'm also against having a rotation without justifiable stability. Every player has good and bad days, and although I'd want to light a fire under the guys, it seems a bit "Isiah Thomas" to change things up after only three days. Look at Malik Allen, he went from total bum to impact player in the span of one game. It'd be a bit extreme to give up on some guys already. Magloire's been pretty foul prone, but he can offer so much to this team that to treat these past 3 games as a sign of what will always come seems like a big mistake.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Aright, first off, L - Magloire is nothing like Moore, haha. Magloire's a bruiser, not very athletic, not fast, no jumper, okay shotblocker, and a good rebounder. Mikki is a fast, pretty athletic hustler player, he can knock down the shot, but ain't that great at defense.</p> I don't believe Sean should necessarily be the 1st big off the bench, tho, maybe the 2nd or 3rd. But i do believe that if he is doing good, he deserves more minutes for his hard work.</p> </div></p> </p> I never said magloire was like moore. I said i am hoping that Allen will be this season's less athletic Moore.</p> </p>
Gotta be kidding me. This forum turned into a bunch newbies with bad opinions. This team is built to win now. We can't be testing players out and letting them learn the ropes. If Sean doesn't prove things in his allotted time, he needs to cheer on his teammates and watch how the game is supposed to be played.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nextlevelgame)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Gotta be kidding me. This forum turned into a bunch newbies with bad opinions. This team is built to win now. We can't be testing players out and letting them learn the ropes. If Sean doesn't prove things in his allotted time, he needs to cheer on his teammates and watch how the game is supposed to be played.</p> </div></p> Well. The injuries hurt the Nets last year. Remove that factor and without it they're basically back to where they were 2 years ago which was good but not great. That's built to win but not win enough. I'm not one of the cognizati that believes Collins "little things" are anywhere near the "big things" (like rebounding! for god sakes) that they need to win. The most logical place to *attempt* an upgrade is to work him out of the minutes. How...I suppose there are many ways. But if just *one* of the recent big additions pans out the team imho would be better off. That's why I say roll them dice...this is not a perennial 55-60 win team. Where *else* is improvement going to come from? Trade our lesser players for someone elses? Trade our stars for someone else's?</p> Now, I'm not saying it's Sean Williams. But some improvement is needed. I'd play Collins 10 minutes at best and try the others.</p> That's me though.</p> </p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nextlevelgame)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Gotta be kidding me. This forum turned into a bunch newbies with bad opinions. This team is built to win now. We can't be testing players out and letting them learn the ropes. If Sean doesn't prove things in his allotted time, he needs to cheer on his teammates and watch how the game is supposed to be played.</p> </div></p> The thing is, the veteran bigs we have now arent getting the job done while the rookie is sitting on the bench. Now Im not saying that Williams is so good he should be starting even though he has only proven to block shots, but rather when the other bigs are stinking it up(Boone and Magloire in particular), then the kid should be given at least a minute or two out and see if he could do better, and if he shows promise and progress, then increase his PT. and this team is built to win now, true; however, we also have some pieces for the future to consider.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> this team is built to win now, true; however, we also have some pieces for the future to consider.</p> </div></p> Absolutely. And the future includes playoff-time. What team do we want then? Again, let's start developing toward that.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Aright, first off, L - Magloire is nothing like Moore, haha. Magloire's a bruiser, not very athletic, not fast, no jumper, okay shotblocker, and a good rebounder. Mikki is a fast, pretty athletic hustler player, he can knock down the shot, but ain't that great at defense.</p> I don't believe Sean should necessarily be the 1st big off the bench, tho, maybe the 2nd or 3rd. But i do believe that if he is doing good, he deserves more minutes for his hard work.</p> </div></p> </p> I never said magloire was like moore. I said i am hoping that Allen will be this season's less athletic Moore.</p> </p> </div></p> </p> OOOOH I see. That makes way more sense now, now that I think about it in a different way... haha.</p> I still think Sean should get some minutes. If the Nets want him to develop at all, I believe he should be out there. He's definitely the best shotblocker on the team, and he's shown it a few games. That alone should give him a few more meaningful minutes on the court.</p>
How I see it: Sean Williams can be our Varejao (but less annoying, more atheletic) in the post season.</p> </p> Remember how much Varejao's hustle annoyed the heck out of us? Sean displayed that hustle the night he played, and then some. With more playing time, he can get more used to the system, and really mess up the other team with his incredible hustle and and athelticism.</p> </p> Before that happens though, he needs to start playing now.</p>
I disagree with the Varejao statement. Varejao is a good rebounder. Sean will be out of postion from trying to block every shot. ;D</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I disagree with the Varejao statement. Varejao is a good rebounder. Sean will be out of postion from trying to block every shot. ;D</p> </div></p> </p> Haha, fair enough. But honestly Sean grabbed some nice o-rebounds, and I imagine he would be a good rebounder playing next to Collins. He grabbed like 4 rebounds almost on atheleticism alone against Toronto.</p>
