<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xcalibur`)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> you can say this about every superstar. most stars probably make more from endorsements like nike,gatorade,adidas, but you compare yourself to other players in the league and to what they earn. that is how they judge themselves and value themselves. last year people were saying vince wanted a paul pierce like deal, so he was comparing himself to pp in a way. how about AROD? he make 250mil from his contract PLUS endorsement deals which im assuming is another 100mil he made, but now he wants 30 mil a year!?!?! why? beacuse its ego that shows that he is at teh top of the sporting world. when Arod signed his 252 (i think that was the exact number), why did he want that extra 2mil and not just 250? because it was double KG's contract who has the highest contract in sports at that time. so as an outsider it blows my mind that these players need so much from the franchise, yet say they wana win when their taking up a nice percentage of the payroll. now baseball is different than baseball, but not everyone has money in baseball either like the yanks or sox. lotta teams dont wana pay the tax and arod would be like 25% of their payroll or something crazy like that lol. bottom line is that if you can make the money and the franchise is willing to give it to you take it. then i think once you finish making that huge deal if you still want that ring then take less on your next contract. im curious what kidd is going to resign for.</p> </div></p> IIRC when Wilt Chamberlain got a $100,000 per year contract, Bill Russell asked for and got $100,001.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (furnace)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> </p> That's why Duncan and Garnett should be commended...to do that in the face of the Latrell Sprewell's of this world... If Kidd took 12 MM a year instead of 20 MM, do you really think Thorn and Stefanski would trade him away?</div></p> </p> Oh I don't think he's getting traded regardless, and its hard to disagree that getting him for 12 would allow us to field the best team (and not the best team for our budget), but its unfortunately unrealistic in this day to expect widespread paycuts.</p> Maybe if the NBA had a bonus system similar to the pre-Deion Sanders NFL. For those who don't know his deal with the cowboys was structured so that all of his money was given in bonuses (and there for only a million counted against the cap!)</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (furnace)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Furnace I'm not sure what your end result is here. Since the market determines the price of the players you'd have to get every single player in the NBA to take a pay cut (to prevent situations like the Kidd-Spurs one that cpaw introduced). So then yes, teams would have much more money to offer to players...and then they woudl be at bidding wars to sign these free agents with this extra cash.</p> While a nobel cause, I don't think you've thought through the context this has in a capitalist market.</p> </div></p> </p> That's why Duncan and Garnett should be commended...to do that in the face of the Latrell Sprewell's of this world... If Kidd took 12 MM a year instead of 20 MM, do you really think Thorn and Stefanski would trade him away?</div></p> Much easier to trade with that kind of salary than 20 million. NJ won't have to take back so much dead weight contracts, just a few young players, a contract and picks. Much, much easier to make deal.</p> </p>
Carter left money on the table. He was due $16.38 million this season. He is being paid $13.0 million.</p>
</p> "Maybe if the NBA had a bonus system "</p> Ah. You're hitting close to my NBA in a perfect world. Lower the team caps way down says I. Then take that $$$ from each team and put it into a big-fat playoff pool. Make winning it all per player somewhere in 7 figures with less for each playoff round exit. It'll never happen cuz ....well, the world ain't perfect.</p> </p> </p>
Ok, whoever suggests VC and Kidd should have taken a pay cut I want you to go to your job tomorrow and ask them to lower your salary. Im Sure you have experience and credentials to be paid what your salary is now, but you should do the noble thing and help out the people in your same job function who dont make as much as you do. If you take a pay cut then Chuck can be paid more which should help motivate him and get even more work done in the office. Let's be serious, this is America, if your job would over pay you or just pay you more I dont see you turning it down. Dont blame Kidd and VC for taking what someone else feels they are worth. Yes taking less money can help a franchise, but at the same time the franchises of the NBA hold no loyalty to the players at all and can trade any of them on a whim. You take less money to help out and you're traded in 2 months, then who looks like the fool. For some reason people always have this weird perception that the players should be loyal and help the franchise, yet the franchise is never expected to have loyalty to them.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheMann)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Ok, whoever suggests VC and Kidd should have taken a pay cut I want you to go to your job tomorrow and ask them to lower your salary. Im Sure you have experience and credentials to be paid what your salary is now, but you should do the noble thing and help out the people in your same job function who dont make as much as you do. If you take a pay cut then Chuck can be paid more which should help motivate him and get even more work done in the office. Let's be serious, this is America, if your job would over pay you or just pay you more I dont see you turning it down. Dont blame Kidd and VC for taking what someone else feels they are worth. Yes taking less money can help a franchise, but at the same time the franchises of the NBA hold no loyalty to the players at all and can trade any of them on a whim. You take less money to help out and you're traded in 2 months, then who looks like the fool. For some reason people always have this weird perception that the players should be loyal and help the franchise, yet the franchise is never expected to have loyalty to them.</p> </div></p> </p> Very good point, TheMann. Doesn't make sense for Steve Francis to take a pay cut to play on the Rockets, either...when he isn't even getting playing time. (Let's be honest, some bozo team would've paid him more than he's getting now, whether he's worth it or not)</p>
