Well, let's give Frank some credit.</p> He did build a lead by keeping Williams in for extended minutes in the first place.</p> I agree that taking him out made no sense, but at least he and we all learned how goddamned good that guy is.</p>
And on another note, firing Lawrence Frank would be a completely asinine thing to do. Period.</p> That guy is all class and a damn good coach to boot.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> And on another note, firing Lawrence Frank would be a completely asinine thing to do. Period.</p> That guy is all class and a damn good coach to boot.</p> </div></p> </p> Yeah, I'm pissed about Frank being an idiot coach this game (and a few other games), but I'm also a bit iffy about firing him.</p> Maybe we could go out and find an assistant to help him out in situations like these?</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> And on another note, firing Lawrence Frank would be a completely asinine thing to do. Period.</p> That guy is all class and a damn good coach to boot.</p> </div></p> </p> Yeah, I'm pissed about Frank being an idiot coach this game (and a few other games), but I'm also a bit iffy about firing him.</p> Maybe we could go out and find an assistant to help him out in situations like these?</p> </div></p> </p> </p>
I know, I was actually thinking about Hill when I typed that out. Why the hell isn't he helping at all?</p> Lawrence Frank should consider listening to others. I wonder if Kidd had anything to say to Frank about this loss.</p>
I didn't see the YES post-game interviews, but I read on this board that Kidd might have called out Collins?</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I wonder if Kidd had anything to say to Frank about this loss.</div></p> I actually do, thank you for thinking about me peg. </p> Kidd is our floor general, so I'm sure Frank and him will have some kind of discussion. J won't attack him for some of the "bone-head" moves, but surely he will share some of his ideas, for the future.</p> The way we lost sucks, but I'm willing to give Frank a bit more time. I guess that's just me.</p> </p>
1. He didn't use Sean in the end of 4th.</p> 2. He played Collins instead.</p> 3. He didn't set the play for RJ in the 4th.</p> 4. He played Allen over Magloire.</p> </p> Damn, what a bad coach he is.</p> the only one good thing is that he played Sean in the first one off the bench.</p>
I'm sensing that Frank is going to be a bone-headed contrairian occasionally, if not just to make some space between himself and "the assistants". If Frank can't proove that he can be the man at the helm and encorporate his strategems, he will appear to be a vestigal organ...Kidd is the general on the floor, Frank runs the practices. </P> Sure my avitar is looking at me funny for putting him down, but really, a monkey wearing an Izod shirt could coach this team as "head coach" what makes the Nets coaching great is the supporting guys. Frank's on court yellin' coach routine is a bit tired. Sometimes I feel that someone should be barking at him, but he's not a bad coach. I am getting tired of him, but as long as he has the teams trust I'm behind him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'> I really hope Collins gets hurt, then our big men could get a better situation.</p></div> </p> Damn man! that's not cool. I guess you're being cute, but damn.
I think Frank never heard to Brian Hill, he is just so stubborn, he thinks he is the best one, Brian Hill has nothing to do....</p> In fact, we have two head coach in a same team, but we are still like we have a monkey as our coach.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Williams, the team's first-round draft pick, wasn't going to second-guess the strategy, but said he knew he had "affected" Paul's game before being lifted.</p> "He wasn't going in there too much," Williams said.</div></p> http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketba...with_sean_.html</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> 1. He didn't use Sean in the end of 4th.-agreed, very bad on frank's part but lets look at the positive here: he was the first big off the bench, which means frank sees his talent</p> 2. He played Collins instead.-Looking back at this, I agree with playing Collins in the 4th, but i dont like the fact he replaced Williams who was having a great game.</p> 3. He didn't set the play for RJ in the 4th.-Agreed, very bad on Frank's part</p> 4. He played Allen over Magloire.--Agreed once again</p> </p> Damn, what a bad coach he is.</p> the only one good thing is that he played Sean in the first one off the bench.</p> </div></p> </p> ....</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> 1. He didn't use Sean in the end of 4th.-agreed, very bad on frank's part but lets look at the positive here: he was the first big off the bench, which means frank sees his talent</p> 2. He played Collins instead.-Looking back at this, I agree with playing Collins in the 4th, but i dont like the fact he replaced Williams who was having a great game.</p> 3. He didn't set the play for RJ in the 4th.-Agreed, very bad on Frank's part</p> 4. He played Allen over Magloire.--Agreed once again</p> </p> Damn, what a bad coach he is.</p> the only one good thing is that he played Sean in the first one off the bench.</p> </div></p> </p> ....</p> </div></p> ................................................................</p>
He should be praised for playing Williams at all. This after Magloire complained about his minutes. Guess he won't complain again.</p>
You are all being way too harsh on Frank. His job is just to put his players in a position to succeed, not just for this game, but in the future. Remember, he has to continue to play the struggling Nachbar, Krstic, Magloire, and Malik Allen, or some combination thereof, to give them a chance to become untracked.</p> He's always well prepared, he always has a well-thought out game plan, but the players have to execute. Maybe you can second-guess some of the plays, but his game plan DID limit Paul to four assists less than his average, and did get him to commit five TOs. He's a terrific young coach and has done a heck of a job, all in all.</p> My frustration with him is his reluctance to tinker with the starting lineup. It seems that he is willing to change his rotation and the amount of playing time for certain guys based on who is playing well, etc., and to use unorthodox combinations, which is something that I think he didn't do enough of during his first few years. A couple of times, he has gone with a five-small lineup this season, with Kidd and Armstrong in the back court. But when it comes to the starting lineu, unless a guy is hurt, it's always the same five guys, and I don't know why. Other coaches tinker--some every game, like Nelson, some less frequently, but they all are willing to make adjustments based on who is playing well, who the opponent is, etc. Coach Frank refuses to do this, and I think that the team suffers as a result. Other people have noted that there are times when it makes no sense to start Collins, and as I've said before, I don't believe that Collins and Krstic should start together at all. In some cases, it may even make sense to bring Carter off the bench--that would have been fascinating against the Celtics, and now we'll essentially see the same thing now that he's injured.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> You are all being way too harsh on Frank. His job is just to put his players in a position to succeed, not just for this game, but in the future. Remember, he has to continue to play the struggling Nachbar, Krstic, Magloire, and Malik Allen, or some combination thereof, to give them a chance to become untracked.</p> He's always well prepared, he always has a well-thought out game plan, but the players have to execute. Maybe you can second-guess some of the plays, but his game plan DID limit Paul to four assists less than his average, and did get him to commit five TOs. He's a terrific young coach and has done a heck of a job, all in all.</p> My frustration with him is his reluctance to tinker with the starting lineup. It seems that he is willing to change his rotation and the amount of playing time for certain guys based on who is playing well, etc., and to use unorthodox combinations, which is something that I think he didn't do enough of during his first few years. A couple of times, he has gone with a five-small lineup this season, with Kidd and Armstrong in the back court. But when it comes to the starting lineu, unless a guy is hurt, it's always the same five guys, and I don't know why. Other coaches tinker--some every game, like Nelson, some less frequently, but they all are willing to make adjustments based on who is playing well, who the opponent is, etc. Coach Frank refuses to do this, and I think that the team suffers as a result. Other people have noted that there are times when it makes no sense to start Collins, and as I've said before, I don't believe that Collins and Krstic should start together at all. In some cases, it may even make sense to bring Carter off the bench--that would have been fascinating against the Celtics, and now we'll essentially see the same thing now that he's injured.</p> </div></p> </p> Not to bash everything you wrote, most of which is true and correct---but the biggest thing that popped in my head when reading this, was a simple obvious coaching decision that Frank didn't do--GO TO THE PLAYER THAT IS HOT.</p> Is it that hard to write up a play for RJ? Or to tell your players to, at any cost, GET RJ THE DAMN BALL. He's hitting shots, free throws, driving inside. Why do you not go to him in the whole 4th quarter? Or more importantly, on those last 2 plays at the end of the game?</p> A high school coach would've been able to do that. Instead, Krstic ends up with the ball, after air balling a shot in the 4th. Isn't that a sign that he's gotten too much PT that game as it is??</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> 1. He didn't use Sean in the end of 4th.-agreed, very bad on frank's part but lets look at the positive here: he was the first big off the bench, which means frank sees his talent</p> 2. He played Collins instead.-Looking back at this, I agree with playing Collins in the 4th, but i dont like the fact he replaced Williams who was having a great game.</p> 3. He didn't set the play for RJ in the 4th.-Agreed, very bad on Frank's part</p> 4. He played Allen over Magloire.--Agreed once again</p> </p> Damn, what a bad coach he is.</p> the only one good thing is that he played Sean in the first one off the bench.</p> </div></p> </p> ....</p> </div></p> ................................................................</p> </div></p> </p> Did you notice what i did?</p> </p>
