Let's have at least one positive thread today.</p> Is there anyone who DOESN'T think that we're witnessing the development of a very special player right now? Is there anyone who doesn't get excited when he comes into the game now?</p> oh, and BTW, Sean has taken 8 foul shots in 54 minutes, and made six of them. That's noteworthy both in terms of NUMBER (7.1 per 48 minutes) and SUCCESS RATE (at 75%, he is fifth on the team, barely behind Kidd and Carter). Compare to Collins (0-0 in 141 minutes), Boone (1-4 in 26 minutes), Krstic (3-6 in 133 minutes), Magloire (an unexpected 8-12 in 86 minutes--the only thing he's doing somewhat well), and Allen (0-0 in 75 minutes). That's right--the other five bigs on the team are a combined 12-for-22 from the line in 461 minutes, a 55% success rate. That's an average of 2.3 attempts per 48.</p>
We're always going to take Kidd for granted, oh hum, 14-10-9 boards in 36 minutes. But yea, this is the one shining light from last night's loss. Williams is an NBA starting PF. He is KMart reincarnated. Frank's got to stop overcoaching this thing, just go with the players who brought you there, don't over think it.</p>
In terms of offense he is further along than K-Mart was when he was a rookie but he still has long ways to go defensively.</p> </p>
I get excited everytime Sean steps into the game. I know the energy level will be taken up a notch with him in.
Sean has really impressed me with his energy and rebounding. The shotblocking is a given, but I didn't expect him to be as good on the glass. He might seem a bit thin, but like RJ said, he has tons of strength. He's averaging 12 rpg (4 offensive) per 40 minutes. Really good for a guy who is often out of position going for the block.</p> Another encouraging factoid, like Dumpy said, is his FT shooting. It improved from 50% to 70% between his sophmore and junior years. I'd expect him to be around that or higher this season.</p> Interesting comparing him to Kmart. He's certainly longer, abetter shotblocker,and probably a more accurate shooter. I'm not sure he knows what he's doing in the post though. He definitely has some moves, he just needs to develop them. I don't remember how Martin looked exactly but he didn't seem as lost. Kmart had bball IQ. He wasn't incredible in that department but certainly had an underrated understanding of the game. Williams has shotblocking instincts. Is that as far as it goes? I guess we'll see.</p> The questions I have for you guys is, was he a similar player in college? (if you saw him) How did he look during the preseason? I'm interested to know if the effort he's been bringing is going to be permanent. If so, he probably has a couple all-star selections waiting for him. A guy with that much talent gets his head in the game and all bets are off.</p> --</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rollydog)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Sean has really impressed me with his energy and rebounding. The shotblocking is a given, but I didn't expect him to be as good on the glass. He might seem a bit thin, but like RJ said, he has tons of strength. He's averaging 12 rpg (4 offensive) per 40 minutes. Really good for a guy who is often out of position going for the block.</p> Another encouraging factoid, like Dumpy said, is his FT shooting. It improved from 50% to 70% between his sophmore and junior years. I'd expect him to be around that or higher this season.</p> Interesting comparing him to Kmart. He's certainly longer, abetter shotblocker,and probably a more accurate shooter. I'm not sure he knows what he's doing in the post though. He definitely has some moves, he just needs to develop them. I don't remember how Martin looked exactly but he didn't seem as lost. Kmart had bball IQ. He wasn't incredible in that department but certainly had an underrated understanding of the game. Williams has shotblocking instincts. Is that as far as it goes? I guess we'll see.</p> The questions I have for you guys is, was he a similar player in college? (if you saw him) How did he look during the preseason? I'm interested to know if the effort he's been bringing is going to be permanent. If so, he probably has a couple all-star selections waiting for him. A guy with that much talent gets his head in the game and all bets are off.</p> --</p> </div></p> </p> In addition to what you said, he's gotta improve his chemistry with Kidd so he can actually throw down those alley-oops that were thrown to him. He's gotta work with Kidd to get to where KMart and VC are with Kidd and alley-oops.</p> He could've gotten an AND1 with a couple of those, but he fumbled, and either was fouled or turned it over.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Yesterday at least, he was a bit of a black hole on offense. Sean gets ball, Sean shoots ball.</p> </div></p> </p> Or Sean loses ball. That's expected. Good thing is he only did it twice. Out of about 10 times he had the ball on the offensive end.</p> Another good thing is, although he is unqualified, he is 12th in the league in blocked shots, 4th in blocks per 48, tied for first with Yi Jianlian who gets twice as many minutes, and 2nd among rookies per 48. LINK</p> That's through 4 games, tho. Not bad, IMO.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Yesterday at least, he was a bit of a black hole on offense. Sean gets ball, Sean shoots ball.</p> </div></p> </p> Or Sean loses ball. That's expected. Good thing is he only did it twice. Out of about 10 times he had the ball on the offensive end.</p> Another good thing is, although he is unqualified, he is 12th in the league in blocked shots, 4th in blocks per 48, tied for first with Yi Jianlian who gets twice as many minutes, and 2nd among rookies per 48. LINK</p> That's through 4 games, tho. Not bad, IMO.</p> </div></p> The most glaring part of those stats MPG SW=13.4. the next lowest for people above him is 29 mpg.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Is there anyone who DOESN'T think that we're witnessing the development of a very special player right now?</div></p> Yes, that would be me</p> </p>
Just gotta keep feeding him minutes and he really could be special. A rookie season average of 8 ppg, 5 rebs, 2.5 blocks is not out of the question if he gets 25-30 minutes a night. And it's important he be out there with Kidd, too. He will start to get the alley oops down if he keeps working. He showed nice hands on the back pass Kidd threw him. Even Boone figured some things out by the end of last year (though this year, he looks awful), and he is no where near as good as Sean Willy. Like Boone, he still needs to work on being strong with the ball when he gets the board. Collins still hasn't figured this part out in 6 years. Frank's whole "the moment was too big" quote is absurd. It was game 7 of the season, not game 7 of the playoffs, you jackarse. Wake UP and Play the Seanshank Rejection!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rollydog)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Sean has really impressed me with his energy and rebounding. The shotblocking is a given, but I didn't expect him to be as good on the glass. He might seem a bit thin, but like RJ said, he has tons of strength. He's averaging 12 rpg (4 offensive) per 40 minutes. Really good for a guy who is often out of position going for the block.</p> Another encouraging factoid, like Dumpy said, is his FT shooting. It improved from 50% to 70% between his sophmore and junior years. I'd expect him to be around that or higher this season.</p> Interesting comparing him to Kmart. He's certainly longer, abetter shotblocker,and probably a more accurate shooter. I'm not sure he knows what he's doing in the post though. He definitely has some moves, he just needs to develop them. I don't remember how Martin looked exactly but he didn't seem as lost. Kmart had bball IQ. He wasn't incredible in that department but certainly had an underrated understanding of the game. Williams has shotblocking instincts. Is that as far as it goes? I guess we'll see.</p> The questions I have for you guys is, was he a similar player in college? (if you saw him) How did he look during the preseason? I'm interested to know if the effort he's been bringing is going to be permanent. If so, he probably has a couple all-star selections waiting for him. A guy with that much talent gets his head in the game and all bets are off.</p> --</p> </div></p> The difference between him and KMart is about what 40 college games, a season and a half of practice. That's where the IQ comes from. Once he starts getting his feet wet with minutes he should be fine in that department. The lows will be when he hits the rookie wall, something he will hit a lot sooner than a guy who's gone to college for at least 2 years. Frank starts crippling his growth by taking him out after EVERY mistake.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Is there anyone who DOESN'T think that we're witnessing the development of a very special player right now?</div></p> Yes, that would be me</p> </p> </div></p> </p> </p> Marco Bell. has looked GREAT in GS. A true sleeper pick by you, when's he gonna wake up?</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Is there anyone who DOESN'T think that we're witnessing the development of a very special player right now?</div></p> Yes, that would be me</p> </div></p> </p> What a shocker.</p> </p>
Too early to tell. But it'll be interesting finding out. Looks like he could be an electrifying player. Glad Nets drafted him.</p>
I'm definitely excited when he steps on the floor - - especially if Kidd is on the floor with him.</p> Anyone else notice that within 2 or 3 possessions of him stepping on the court, Kidd tries to throw him an alley oop?</p> It's not always the best game decision, but it certainly revs up the crowd and the bench always comes to their feet.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MFNetsFan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I'm definitely excited when he steps on the floor - - especially if Kidd is on the floor with him.</p> Anyone else notice that within 2 or 3 possessions of him stepping on the court, Kidd tries to throw him an alley oop?</p> It's not always the best game decision, but it certainly revs up the crowd and the bench always comes to their feet.</p> </div></p> Keeps him in the game from the get go.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MFNetsFan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I'm definitely excited when he steps on the floor - - especially if Kidd is on the floor with him.</p> Anyone else notice that within 2 or 3 possessions of him stepping on the court, Kidd tries to throw him an alley oop?</p> It's not always the best game decision, but it certainly revs up the crowd and the bench always comes to their feet.</p> </div></p> That's why JKidd is the best. Gets the kid going and gives him confidence.</p> </p>
Welcome to any new members I haven't said hi to already! Send me a PM if you have any questions about the site.</p> It really was deja vu everytime Kidd was on the break with Sean in the game. Not just clear path lobs; I saw a couple of attempts where they tried to get creative and throw them down in traffic.</p>
