Whenever we sign a player in the offseason, they completely suck and not be as good as advertised? Rodgers was decent but not good, Lamond Murray, Padgett, Mcinnis, Magloire, Malik Allen, Armstrong is coming around. It's like, as soon as they put on a Nets jersey, they suck.</p>
Alot of the guys you mentioned sucked upon signing them but we tend to get swept up in the hype. Murray was good for us in the playoffs once Frank figured out how to use him. DA's playing exactly like he has the past couple seasons and is being forced into being a backup PG when he's really a good 3rd stringer. Malik is really struggling as is Big Cat because are both guys who Frank has no idea what to do with much like McInnis before them. I'm not saying they're all that stellar either but they could be servicible.</p>
Magloire looked fairly useless the last two years before he came to the Nets. For that matter, Malik wasn't exactly a guy I wanted to see much of as a Bulls fan. They are both probably 4th to 5th big men you'd want to have in your rotation if you're a really really good team. So is Collins.</p> Based on being a rookie, so is Williams, though he's played nicely so you'd maybe want him to be in the top three. Krstic... well, he's obviously not healthy, so what are you gonna do?</p> I think the only thing to be done is</p> 1. Play Krstic if there's no chance of setting back his recovery 2. Play Williams 3. Fill in the rest of the minutes with the other guys.
I'm beginning to feel that Frank is caught up with regularly playing who he knows. He generally seems too conservative to insert either rookies or new-blood from other teams with a full vote of confidenceand defined rotation minutes. Speaking of new-blood, if it was my team, he'd be on a short leash at this point. Not cuz he's absolutely got a terrible tracke record but we could maybe do better if the right guy comes along.</p> (too bad Larry Brown already coached here ;-) )</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (reganomics813)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Alot of the guys you mentioned sucked upon signing them but we tend to get swept up in the hype. Murray was good for us in the playoffs once Frank figured out how to use him. DA's playing exactly like he has the past couple seasons and is being forced into being a backup PG when he's really a good 3rd stringer. Malik is really struggling as is Big Cat because are both guys who Frank has no idea what to do with much like McInnis before them. I'm not saying they're all that stellar either but they could be servicible.</p> </div></p> Murray shot 42% from three his final year in T-Dot and had a season high of 25 against us. Padgett was also a good shooter. Malik was very servicable for Chicago, hittng elbow jumpers and playing defense. Everyone was raving about him in training camp. IMO, Magloire needs minutes. He's not one of those guys who you could bring in for short spurts and expect him to produce. Remember, he was bad off the bench but had good games as a starter .</p> I don't understand what Frank's obsession with Malik is.</p> </p>
Because of the Coach - Lawrence Frank, he doesn't know how to utilize the players.</p> I believe many players need the PT to show themself, once they don't get it enough time, they will lost the confidence, and they will be so adraid to play, because once they play a bad ball game, they will be benched by the coach.</p> This coach is really terrible, you must success forever, or you will be benched very soon. He is always too stubborn. If I was the coach, I would start Magloire to play with Krstic, and let's see what's wrong with that, and adjust that.</p> Because Collins is proved, he is just a backup player, as long as he is the starter, we are always labeled the weakest frontcourt. So I would Start Magloire + Krstic, and Sean Williams be the first backup big man there.</p> And we would have the record: 6-2 right now. Much more diffrent.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (reganomics813)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Alot of the guys you mentioned sucked upon signing them but we tend to get swept up in the hype. Murray was good for us in the playoffs once Frank figured out how to use him. DA's playing exactly like he has the past couple seasons and is being forced into being a backup PG when he's really a good 3rd stringer. Malik is really struggling as is Big Cat because are both guys who Frank has no idea what to do with much like McInnis before them. I'm not saying they're all that stellar either but they could be servicible.</p> </div></p> Murray shot 42% from three his final year in T-Dot and had a season high of 25 against us. Padgett was also a good shooter. Malik was very servicable for Chicago, hittng elbow jumpers and playing defense. Everyone was raving about him in training camp. IMO, Magloire needs minutes. He's not one of those guys who you could bring in for short spurts and expect him to produce. Remember, he was bad off the bench but had good games as a starter .</p> I don't understand what Frank's obsession with Malik is.</p> </p> </div></p> </p> Murray scoring a season high against us says more about our defense than it does his skill level at the time but hedid come though when we needed him. There was a reason we got him for the vet min remember. Padgett I never personally liked in any manner before or during his stint as a Net so i'll just say that he was highly overrated and needed JVG's ringing endorsement to even get the gig. Malik was servicible is good in small doses, just like DA is but neither should be seeing the minutes they are now. Magliore came in looking for a new light on a dwindling career, lets not rewrite recent history here.</p> It's still very early and personally I think the whole team deserves a pass in alot of ways because these guys were brought in to be veteran roleplayers that would fit well with our stars and youth and I still feel they can be but we're throwing alot of suff at them and the coach admittedly says he isn't even sure what he's gonna do in a round about way. Without Marcus and Vince it's rough for these guys to get adjusted and understandably so. They don't look good as of right now and maybe Big Cat should get some of Allen's minutes if he's not hitting his shot but you can't yank the guy after one miss either so it's a tough situation to be in because if Sean is playing well he needs to play. It's tough to have in two low post options on the floor who can only score around the hoop and clogging the paint where it limits Kidd, RJ, and Wrights slashing. With Nenad struggling, that's why we're seeing Malik out there, for that jumper. He just happens to be missing and it's because defenses can really zone in on him with all our injuries.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Whenever we sign a player in the offseason, they completely suck and not be as good as advertised? Rodgers was decent but not good, Lamond Murray, Padgett, Mcinnis, Magloire, Malik Allen, Armstrong is coming around. It's like, as soon as they put on a Nets jersey, they suck.</p> </div></p> Other than Rodgers and Armstrong, they all sucked* before joining the Nets.</p> <font size="2">* If you watched them play and didn't just look at stats.</font></p> </p>
Players like Magloire have become situational players if they're not an offensive option. KG has changed the way big men are to play. If you don't have a 15-18 foot jump shot, you become more of a 4 on 5 game. That's what happens when you throw in a Magloire and he's not the focal point of your offense, he's not a threat. Defensively, because he's slower, he can't defend players like KG, Nowitzki, and with no post players to defend, he becomes another Collins clone. He takes up space which isn't bad for a zone defense, but with post up bigmen on the extinct list, he really doesn't have a job out there, especially when you have Collins.</p> We're shopping for bargain basements, because of our salary structure and not all will be consistent performers. It's a miracle we were able to find a guy like Boki by trade. We just have to build through the draft and unfortunately, draft ready to play players.</p>
