Assuming Kidd demands a trade and Thorn honors his request, what could we possibly get in return? I would imagine Kidd wants to go to a contender. Joining LeBron on the Cavs? Kidd and Krstic for Illgauskas, Gibson, Newble and Jones. But that would be a terrible trade. Going to LA to be with Kobe? We can get Kwame and Odom. Would the Lakers even want to trade Odom? All the other teams I can think of have great point guards, like Nash, Williams, Paul, Parker, Billups. If he gets traded to the Heat I will kill myself. It's not possible to go to the Celtics because of the money situation. I don't see what could be done.</p> If this team is blown up and we trade Kidd, I honestly think the best thing to do is send Carter packing too. We'd obviously be in rebuilding mode and we don't need a 30 year old shooting guard. Think about it. Marcus is 22, Sean is 21, Krstic is 24 and Jefferson is 27. Hopefully we can re-sign Wright, somehow get rid of Boki, Boone and Collins and we'd have an entertaining team for now and possibly a player once we move to Brooklyn.</p> I'm starting to get disillusioned right now so maybe I'm crazy but what are you guys opinions?</p> Of all the trades I put up top, I like one with the Pistons I didn't mention. That would be Kidd for Billups and Amir Johnson (not sure if it would work in the trade machine). We have a leader in Billups and Amir + Sean can grow to be a great tandem.</p>
Thorn is a notorious wait and see guy.</p> I don't see any trades until the deadline but yeah If the Nets don't have a decent record by January its time to blow it up.</p>
Trading Kidd is not the answer. We've got the pieces for him to be successful, its just a matter of getting them to blend. If you trade Kidd everything on this team goes to hell. Plus although a bit of a sunk cost, I think by giving Carter all that money we'd rather make changes necessary to win a championship rather than build for the future. Lets get rid of Frank and get someone who will light a fire under these guys bums</p>
The Nets start like this every year, and this same thread gets posted every year and no one gets traded every year and Frank doesn't get fired every year.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> And we get kicked out of the 2nd round every year.</p> </div></p> Not this year.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> The Nets start like this every year, and this same thread gets posted every year and no one gets traded every year and Frank doesn't get fired every year.</p> </p> </div></p> third times a charm, and there is friction between Kidd/Frank.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> And we get kicked out of the 2nd round every year.</p> </div></p> Not this year.</p> </p> </div></p> Man, I hope so. I think in order to avoid that it'll take some of the changes that have been rumored over the past season to take place</p> Not sure trading Kidd makes us better. Pretty sure getting rid of Franlin will.</p> ...unless you were being cheeky and meant that we can't get knocked out of the 2nd round if we get knocked out of the first (or don't make the playoffs!). Then those changes really need to happn.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> And we get kicked out of the 2nd round every year.</p> </div></p> Not this year.</p> </p> </div></p> Man, I hope so. I think in order to avoid that it'll take some of the changes that have been rumored over the past season to take place</p> Not sure trading Kidd makes us better. Pretty sure getting rid of Franlin will.</p> ...unless you were being cheeky and meant that we can't get knocked out of the 2nd round if we get knocked out of the first (or don't make the playoffs!). Then those changes really need to happn.</p> </p> </div></p> The Nets need a miracle to make the playoffs this year.</p> Everyone assumed Jason Kidd was ageless and would be able to play at his insanely high level forever, and that is just not the case.</p> </p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jerkstore)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> The Nets start like this every year, and this same thread gets posted every year and no one gets traded every year and Frank doesn't get fired every year.</p> </p> </div></p> third times a charm, and there is friction between Kidd/Frank.</p> </div></p> Really? How doo you know this?</p>
Trading Kidd solves nothing. No team is willing to give up the quality point gaurd that is going to keep us a winning franchise.</p> Frank on the other hand hasn't taken us to two Finals even though he's done a good job.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bling890)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jerkstore)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> The Nets start like this every year, and this same thread gets posted every year and no one gets traded every year and Frank doesn't get fired every year.</p> </p> </div></p> third times a charm, and there is friction between Kidd/Frank.</p> </div></p> Really? How doo you know this?</p> </div></p> </p> I'm using the force. Kidd opens his venting with a "let go of the rope" Frankism. Uses a 3 year timeframe, RJ said the west coast trip luck started 3 years ago. When did Frank take over?</p> Then see Frank respond with "the question is, what are you going to do as a player and what are you going to do as a coach to fix it." This while still not fully aware of what Kidd said in his interview.</p> I think Franks statement is anticipating Kidds discontent. I bet they have had words, but are maintaing a professional front. Kidd bailed out tonight, and seemed distracted. I'd rather he spar with Joumana than Frank tho', at least Kidd dosen't that get into his game.</p>
Ahhhh, here's the Old Jason Kidd that's been waiting in the wings since 2004. The one everyone called a coach killer.</p> Marion, Kirlenko, Kobe, Jermaine all go out there, demand trades, and nothing gets done, cause it shoots their value in the foot.</p> J-Kidd plays it smart - he lets out a few frustrated comments here and there, and a few rumours to float about how angry he is in the locker room. Next thing you know, he's on the first plane out of town for $.50 on the dollar.</p> The sad thing is, that's looking like the best-case scenario at this point.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> The Nets need a miracle to make the playoffs this year.</p> Everyone assumed Jason Kidd was ageless and would be able to play at his insanely high level forever, and that is just not the case.</p> </p> </p> </div></p> Since when did you buy into the Kidd-rhetoric? One game of 6 TO's and you're ready to forget that he leads the NBA in triple doubles this season?</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> The Nets need a miracle to make the playoffs this year.</p> Everyone assumed Jason Kidd was ageless and would be able to play at his insanely high level forever, and that is just not the case.</p> </p> </p> </div></p> Since when did you buy into the Kidd-rhetoric? One game of 6 TO's and you're ready to forget that he leads the NBA in triple doubles this season?</p> </p> </div></p> I'm saying (over and over for years...) that he is human, and he cannot continue to play at this level forever.</p> At some point, he will no longer be a player that can lead a team to a title. (Probably that's now.)</p> He also isn't healthy, which is partially his fault and partially a natural part of getting older.</p> His attitude about being traded along with his offseason nonsense tells you all you need to know about his belief in his ability to get the Nets over the top.</p> </p> </p>
That he can't do it alone and needs some help? Hell kobe's saying the same thing, but I wouldn't call him damaged goods. Yeah Kidd isn't the bionic man, but regardless of his age he's still performing at a level that makes the Nets a condenting team in the east as long as you surround him with the resources he needs to get it done. The Nets are in a tough spot right now, but its worth making a single personel change so that we can get over the hump; I believe we're that close. It'd be a shame to give up now after we've come this far since we rebuilt after Kmart left.</p>
