<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> That he can't do it alone and needs some help? Hell kobe's saying the same thing, but I wouldn't call him damaged goods. Yeah Kidd isn't the bionic man, but regardless of his age he's still performing at a level that makes the Nets a condenting team in the east as long as you surround him with the resources he needs to get it done. The Nets are in a tough spot right now, but its worth making a single personel change so that we can get over the hump; I believe we're that close. It'd be a shame to give up now after we've come this far since we rebuilt after Kmart left.</p> </div></p> I agree that there's no point in giving up.</p> Thorn does, too. That's why he didn't pull the trigger on those horrible trades last year.</p> The Nets have one of the bleakest futures in the NBA, so if there's any chance they can add a piece that can help them win now they should do that. (Although that ship has mostly sailed. Another miracle required.)</p> The Celtics are going to suck hard in five years. They aren't complaining right now.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> And we get kicked out of the 2nd round every year.</p> </div></p> Not this year.</p> </p></div> </p> Yeah right... coz this time we'll be out in the first round!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AMS_ice)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> And we get kicked out of the 2nd round every year.</p> </div></p> Not this year.</p> </p> </div></p> </p> Yeah right... coz this time we'll be out in the first round!</div></p> ba-dah!</p> </p> </p> </p>
GIVE IT 20 GAMES.</p> i would like to see kidd get that ring in nj but if thats not possible let him go whereever he agrees to because he deserves it. I would like to see mark jackson take over this team without kidd and carter and some young guys. lets start fresh.</p> our bench is looking like a bunch of lames right now. i know kidd hates playing with this group as of now. carter better help when he comes back or kidd is going to be pissed to a new degree.</p> </p> </p>
Right now, this team looks a lot like the team that started the 2004-05 season. That team had Kidd (who missed the first few weeks), RJ, Eric Williams, Aaron Williams, Mourning, a young Krstic, Collins, Travis Best, Ron Mercer, Jacque Vaughn, Rodney Buford, Zoran, and Brian Scalabrine. That team was getting shelled left and right, had no offensive flow, and RJ was trying to be the go-to guy and failing. They started out 2-11 and 7-16. Their wins were by a handful of points (111-106 v. Chicago; 64-60 v. Portland; 88-86 v. Toronto; 94-91 v. New Orleans; 95-90 v. Atlanta). Of their first 16 losses (roughly when Carter was acquired), 13 were by more then 10 points.</p> Then Carter was acquired and fortunes changed.</p> Like that team, this one doesn't take advantage of Kidd's strengths, and includes a bunch of jumpshooters that can't hit any shots.</p> The similarities between that team and this one is pretty incredible.</p> It is amazing that, with the exception of Carter, this team's makeup is nearly the same as it was back then. Thorn and Stefanski have learned nothing.</p> Kidd was indifferent when he returned from his injury.</p> RJ tried to carry the load and was incapable of doing so.</p> Wright is the new Eric Williams--a nice player who can play some defense and hit a few shots, but if he's one of your go-to guys you are just in trouble. (BTW, I am a fan of Wright; he's played very good defense and was pretty aggressive on offense yesterday, but his shots weren't falling--but he's still at best just a nice complimentary player).</p> Boki is the new Zoran. Poor defense, repiutation as a shooter but can't hit shots.</p> Magloire, Malik Allen, and Boone replace Mourning, Scalabrine, and Aaron Williams (like Boone, Aaron played very little, but some fans argued that he should be given more of an opportunity). Malik v. Veal is a pretty good comparison, a role player that allegedly could hit an outside shot but was in reality pretty unreliable. At least Veal brought energy. Magloire v. Mourning . . . that one's good. I suspect that it is only a matter of days before Magloire starts to bitch.</p> Armstrong and Gill replace Jacque Vaughn and Best.</p> The ONLY differences I can see is Sean Williams, and that Marcus, when he returns, has more potential than Buford/Vaughn/Best.</p> When the Nets acquired Carter, everything fell into place. Krstic developed and Buford started hitting some shots.</p> This year, when Carter comes back, hopefully Krstic can eventually return to form and Boki can start hitting some shots.</p> The only reasons why this team might be better than that one is Marcus and Sean, and the jury is still out on Marcus.</p> Once again, the off-season acquisitions have been worthless. This year it is Magloire, Allen, and Armstrong. And, as has been the case every year, I'm not sure why they are on the team at all. I'll give Armstrong a pass because of Marcus' injury, although it's clear that they should have just gone with Gill from the get-go.</p> Once Carter is healthy, and Krstic rounds into form, this team will finish like that one did, barely make the playoffs.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I hear Cleveland is looking for a PG.</p> </div></p> They have nothing but garbage to trade. There would have to be a third team involved.</p> As for that Lakers deal, it was already rejected when Kidd could have made more of a difference.</p> </p>
We want young talent, not tired shit like Bibby and Artest. maybe Garcia, Douby, Hawes,.. I don't know</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Well Sactown could be involved in that trade. (bibby, artest and fillers)</p> </div></p> In that case, Cleveland could just trade for Bibby themselves.</p> If the Nets trade Kidd, they don't want that stuff back. They want youth and/or expiring contracts.</p> Currently their future consists of the Williams', Wright and Josh Boone.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> In that case, Cleveland could just trade for Bibby themselves.</p> If the Nets trade Kidd, they don't want that stuff back. They want youth and/or expiring contracts.</p> Currently their future consists of the Williams', Wright and Josh Boone.</p> </div></p> You could use as an excuse the fact that the Nets picks have been between 17-22 the last few years. But other teams seek out young, unsigned free agents and develop them! The nets don't. I am really coming around to the idea that Thornski doesn't know how to build a team. They can't recognize talent and take the easy way out with slow veterans without any potential.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> In that case, Cleveland could just trade for Bibby themselves.</p> If the Nets trade Kidd, they don't want that stuff back. They want youth and/or expiring contracts.</p> Currently their future consists of the Williams', Wright and Josh Boone.</p> </div></p> You could use as an excuse the fact that the Nets picks have been between 17-22 the last few years. But other teams seek out young, unsigned free agents and develop them! The nets don't. I am really coming around to the idea that Thornski doesn't know how to build a team. They can't recognize talent and take the easy way out with slow veterans without any potential.</p> </p> </div></p> Thornski don't take many risks. They always like to play it safe. Sean Williams had an impressive worjout and yes it was unlike Thornski to draft him and look what happened.They want to builda veteran team and only take on veterans that no other team wants.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Kidd to the Lakers for Bynum, Turiaf anf Farmar. Excellent rebuilding group.</p> </div></p> They wouldn't give us Bynum last year when he sucked so why the hell would they give him to us now that he's a beast and add two other players???</p> And if we could possibly work a Detroit deal is there any way we can get Maxiell?!? That kid is a flat out monster.. They even have shirts sayin he eats babies</p>
Re: Kidd for T-Mac http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4297387</p> Any thoughts? this gives NJ a story and Carter a reason to stay.</p>
