<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (farouq710)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (farouq710)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> i kind of regret buying his jersey last year, i knew i should've gone with RJ.</p> </div></p> You should have gone with Buck Williams.</p> </p> </div></p> i'm too young to appreciate buck, never watched him play in person.</p> </p> </div></p> I was going to compare him with a modern player to give you an idea what he was like, but guys like him are extinct in the NBA.</p> The closest guy I could think of is a healthy and productive Emeka Okafor, and that's even a stretch.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> let me refrase ghoti = "Trade Kidd!"</p> </div></p> If they do that, it's over. He's the only player good enough to build a championship team around.</p> But, yeah. I think that might not be true anymore.</p> In that case, Thorn is just McHale in fancier duds. He wasted a superstar's prime and won no titles.</p> </p> </div></p> </p> I've been as critical of Thorn as anyone, but come on, he ain't McHale. We're talking about the man who made the franchise relevant again. He's wasted the end of Kidd's career, but he got Kidd in the first place. McHale couldn't have pulled that off in a million years.</p> With that said, I think we have the worst future of any team in the NBA. Does any franchise have a worse 6-year outlook than us right now? Seriously, name one.</p> </div></p> He traded Marbury to the Clippers and it fell through.</p> He's McHale with Forrest Gump-like luck. (Right, Portland?)</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> let me refrase ghoti = "Trade Kidd!"</p> </div></p> If they do that, it's over. He's the only player good enough to build a championship team around.</p> But, yeah. I think that might not be true anymore.</p> In that case, Thorn is just McHale in fancier duds. He wasted a superstar's prime and won no titles.</p> </p> </div></p> </p> I've been as critical of Thorn as anyone, but come on, he ain't McHale. We're talking about the man who made the franchise relevant again. He's wasted the end of Kidd's career, but he got Kidd in the first place. McHale couldn't have pulled that off in a million years.</p> With that said, I think we have the worst future of any team in the NBA. Does any franchise have a worse 6-year outlook than us right now? Seriously, name one.</p> </div></p> </p> 6-year outlook? I dunno, but the Knicks are lookin pretty bad right now and in the next couple years.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>He traded Marbury to the Clippers and it fell through.</p> He's McHale with Forrest Gump-like luck. (Right, Portland?)</p> </p> </div></p> </p> Backstory please.</p>
[quote name='ghoti']</p> [quote name='farouq710']</p> [quote name='ghoti']</p> [quote name='farouq710']</p> i kind of regret buying his jersey last year, i knew i should've gone with RJ.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> You should have gone with Buck Williams.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> i'm too young to appreciate buck, never watched him play in person.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> I was going to compare him with a modern player to give you an idea what he was like, but guys like him are extinct in the NBA.</p> The closest guy I could think of is a healthy and productive Emeka Okafor, and that's even a stretch.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> I was trying to think of a comparison myself, and couldn't get anywhere closer. I leaned toward Elton Brand.</p> </p>
Touche' on the Knicks, but they have an unlimited payroll, they sell out even when they're terrible, and they're getting a new GM in the next 8 months. They've still got the Dolan Factor though, which pretty much mitigates all of that.</p> The Heat may look bad now, but they've got Dwayne Wade, a guy who was the best player on a title team, and he's staying in Miami for the next decade.</p> As I think about it, the Knicks shouldn't count. They're basically a CBA franchise at this point. I think the Washington Generals have a better long-term outlook than they do.</p> </p>
This is a chance for Mr. Thorn to show his quality.</p> This team was in WORSE shape three years ago. And then they traded some beads for Vince Carter. That made them a playoff team, but now they are slipping again. In three years they never addressed the depth issue. They took a pile of crap, posted Vince Carter on it, and at heart it was still a pile of crap.</p> Right now, though, he should be able to get a king's ransom for Kidd if he plays his cards right. Every veteran superstar is calling his GM demanding that they acquire Kidd right now. It's not a fire sale--it's an auction. Unfortunately, there are no teams that have the rights to multiple draft picks this year--correction: there are a few, but the additional picks are all top-ten or lottery protected, so they are not nearly as valuable.</p> Not only do you get that cancer off the team, but you also fix the team's salary structure. And you get some pieces back that will be better than every player currently on the Nets' bench--and better than anyone in the frontcourt, starter or reserve.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (razel231)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>He traded Marbury to the Clippers and it fell through.</p> He's McHale with Forrest Gump-like luck. (Right, Portland?)</p> </p> </div></p> </p> Backstory please.</p> </div></p> </p> To the Portland thing? Portland drafted Sam Bowie, and Thorn was the GM of Chicago at the time...and drafted MJ.</p> And to the Clippers thing...http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2001/s/2001/0626/1218994.html</p> The #2 overall pick turned out to be Tyson Chandler.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (razel231)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>He traded Marbury to the Clippers and it fell through.</p> He's McHale with Forrest Gump-like luck. (Right, Portland?)</p> </p> </div></p> </p> Backstory please.</p> </div></p> </p> To the Portland thing? Portland drafted Sam Bowie, and Thorn was the GM of Chicago at the time...and drafted MJ.</p> And to the Clippers thing...http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2001/s/2001/0626/1218994.html</p> The #2 overall pick turned out to be Tyson Chandler.</p> </div></p> Thanks...i knew about the Sam Bowie thing but the Marbury one I had no idea. Looking at that draft, there was no eventual superstar big man, so I guess Thorn made out better with the way things turned out.</p> </p>
[quote name='razel231']</p> [quote name='peg182']</p> [quote name='razel231']</p> [quote name='ghoti']He traded Marbury to the Clippers and it fell through.</p> He's McHale with Forrest Gump-like luck. (Right, Portland?)</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> Backstory please.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> To the Portland thing? Portland drafted Sam Bowie, and Thorn was the GM of Chicago at the time...and drafted MJ.</p> And to the Clippers thing...http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2001/s/2001/0626/1218994.html</p> The #2 overall pick turned out to be Tyson Chandler.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> Thanks...i knew about the Sam Bowie thing but the Marbury one I had no idea. Looking at that draft, there was no eventual superstar big man, so I guess Thorn made out better with the way things turned out.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> Pau Gasol was taken 3rd...</p>