[quote name='Brian']</p> [quote name='Real']</p> Well last year you pissed off Kobe and looked stupid for it.[/quote]</p> Yeah? So? Are we the Los Angeles Lakers, or the Los Angeles Kobes? Last I checked, we were the former. We're not going to make trades just to make Kobe "happy" if it's not in the best interest of our organization. And for the record, Kobe isn't unhappy anymore, and he's more than willing to continue playing with the Lakers. If we opts out in two seasonsand takes a major paycutto go play of a contender, then kudos to him. He'll earn more respect from me,and he'llleave us with a bunch of cap space, and we'll have a solid group of youngsters to build around. [/quote]</p> You know and I know that what Kobe says and what Kobe feels is not neccesarily the same thing, and even if he was happy now, which I won't deny is possible, who is to say he won't be happy in a few months or a year from now?</p> </p> I don't see Kobe taking any kind of a paycut. If he wanted to go to a contender he should have done so when his contract was up a few years ago. He has his rings, what he wants is to be the man.</p> </p> </p> </p> That's why I have said we should blow our team up, since we can't trade fora player that won't make us championship contenders.</p> </p> </p> You're better than Denver? You have the same record as them what makes you better than Denver? Utah is much better than the Lakers IMO. They have a great point gaurd in Deron Williams, and a legit post presence in Carlos Boozer. Not to mention Mehmet Okur, and Ronnie Brewer who is just starting to show flashes of why they picked him.</p> If Bynum is good enough for the Lakers to not trade him for a player of Jason Kidd's caliber, then he should be good enough for the Lakers with a nucleus of Kidd-Kobe-Bynum to become a contender no?</p> </p> Was this before or after Kobe said in referring to Bynum, "Ship his ass out"?</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lakerman34)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I am saying that there is no way that we are giving up our 20 year old stud for a 35 year old aging superstar who only has 3 or 4 seasons left in him. Kidd needs to leave NJ more than the Lakers need a superstar, so in a sense LA is doing NJ a favor in this deal. We are giving up LO, who has struggled but a change in scenery may make him return to his old self, Kwame Brown who is a better interior defender than ANY big man in NJ, Chris Mihm whose basically a filler, and Sasha Vujacic who can be a decent player if he puts on a few pounds. Those are some above decent players we are shipping out for an aging superstar and garbage. We helped you upgrade your 4 and 5 spots, and we are only upgrading at PG, AND we have solid backups in that position as it is. Crittenton would become an instant fan favorite in NJ, and being just 19 years old, he is VERY promising. As an overall player, he will definitely be better than Boone. This trade actually benefits NJ in the longrun more than it helps us out. We just need to make this deal to keep our superstar happy, but Kobe has already admitted that he is content in a Lakers' uniform. Kidd will NOT end his career in a Nets uniform, and LA probably has the most to offer, unless you want to trade him to Cleveland for Hughes and Damon Jones.</p> </div></p> So we will give up our 21 year old stud for your 29 year old aging superstar. Deal?</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> </p> What does that matter? Obviously Bynum is thought of highly around the league because his name keeps coming up in trade discussions. And obviously you think highly of him as well since you want him in return for Jason Kidd. What, is Sean Williams and Marcus Williams the next great super duo of the NBA?</p> </p> </div></p> </p> Bynum is a nice piece to build around in a rebuilding effort. As is a player like Sean Williams and hopefully Marcus Williams.</p> </p> My ultimate hope is the Nets trade Kidd and Carter so we can suck long enough to get a lottery pick and have cap space to sign a big FA.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Especially with Boone playing so well.</p> </p> NJ would get ripped off big in that trade.</p> </p> Rod should tell Mitch he needs to give up Bynum or no Kidd.</p> </div></p> </p> The Lakers have made it clear that they would trade Kobe before they would trade Bynum.</p> </p>
</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>So we will give up our 21 year old stud for your 29 year old aging superstar. Deal?</div></p> Throw in your whole roster less Kidd and we got a deal.</p>
[quote name='Universe']</p> So we will give up our 21 year old stud for your 29 year old aging superstar. Deal?</p> [/QUOTE]</p> Your 21 year old stud? Who? Sean Williams? The guy hasn't proven anything in the league so far. I understand you guys are very high on him, I am too. I even complimented him after your guy's victory against us. But last I checked, he isn't a 20 year old averaging a double double to go along with 2 blocks. And last I checked, Jason Kidd isn't the best player in the NBA. Not even a top three player like Kobe</p> </p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">[quote name='Real'] <o></o></p> You know and I know that what <st1:city><st1lace>Kobe</st1lace></st1:city> says and what <st1:city><st1lace>Kobe</st1lace></st1:city> feels is not neccesarily the same thing, and even if he was happy now, which I won't deny is possible, who is to say he won't be happy in a few months or a year from now?[/quote]<o></o></p> How is he not happy? I don't see him missing practices because of headaches. He comes to practice each and every day and gives it his all each and every second on the court. He smiles and jokes around with guys during the game, and he continues to give praise to Andrew Bynum for his work ethic and determination to get better. If <st1:city><st1lace>Kobe</st1lace></st1:city> is truly unhappy with the Lakers, then he sure is doing a great acting job. His body language doesn’t make him seem unhappy at all. And if he isn't happy with the team, again, he can opt out after the 2009 season, and save us a bunch of money under the cap. We'd be in great position to rebuild<o></o></p> <o></o></p> And he is the man in LA, isn't he? If he doesn't take the opt out, then I guess he's happy, or at least satisfied with the team's condition. No way will <st1:city><st1lace>Kobe</st1lace></st1:city> bepissed off with the team and organization, and not opt out of his contract when given the chance. He's not retarded, and he's also smart enough to know that whichever team he gets traded to will most likely be stripped of talent. So he either stays or goes, it's his option. And either way, we’d be in pretty good condition for the future.<o></o></p> <o></o></p> Um, probably because we blew <st1:city><st1lace>Denver</st1lace></st1:city> out one game, and then defeated them another game even with Iverson going off for 50. And as for <st1:state><st1lace>Utah</st1lace></st1:state>, they may be better than us, but we are more than capable of holding the fort against them. <o></o></p> </p> I don’t know if we’ll be better than San Antonio/Dallas/Phoenix but it sure gives us a better chance then a duo of just Kobe/Kidd, or a trio of Kobe/Kidd/Odom with no depth and no post presence. Kidd is a great player, but at this stage of his career, I’m not willing to break the bank for him, especially since it doesn’t even guarantee we will go far in the playoffs.<o></o></p> </p> It was after, and as a matter of fact, probably only a couple of weeks ago. If you don’t believe me, I’d be more than willing to dig up the article for you. Actually, I believe somebody posted the article already in the Laker forum.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> So we will give up our 21 year old stud for your 29 year old aging superstar. Deal?</p> </div></p> Your 21 year old stud? Who? Sean Williams? The guy hasn't proven anything in the league so far. I understand you guys are very high on him, I am too. I even complimented him after your guy's victory against us. But last I checked, he isn't a 20 year old averaging a double double to go along with 2 blocks. And last I checked, Jason Kidd isn't the best player in the NBA. Not even a top three player like Kobe</p> </div></p> Jeff Foster is averging almost ten rebounds a game. Troy Murphy is averging ten points a game. You combine them and you get a double double. Stats don't show everything especailly when your other bigs consist of Mihm and Brown. He is going to get those rebounds and he is going to score but you can't always see the future as this may be his highest peak.</p> Heck, Sean in 22 games has already beat Bynums career high of twenty and yet Bynum is the threat down low?</p> Andrew is overhyped. Yes he is talented but I could be too if I was 7 foot and personally being coached by one of the greatest centers of all time.</p>
[quote name='Brian']</p> </p> [quote name='Real'] <o></o></p> You know and I know that what <st1:city><st1lace>Kobe</st1lace></st1:city> says and what <st1:city><st1lace>Kobe</st1lace></st1:city> feels is not neccesarily the same thing, and even if he was happy now, which I won't deny is possible, who is to say he won't be happy in a few months or a year from now?[/quote]<o></o></p> </p> <o></o></p> <o></o></p> And he is the man in LA, isn't he? If he doesn't take the opt out, then I guess he's happy, or at least satisfied with the team's condition. No way will <st1:city><st1lace>Kobe</st1lace></st1:city> bepissed off with the team and organization, and not opt out of his contract when given the chance. He's not retarded, and he's also smart enough to know that whichever team he gets traded to will most likely be stripped of talent. So he either stays or goes, it's his option. And either way, we’d be in pretty good condition for the future.<o></o></p> <o></o></p> Um, probably because we blew <st1:city><st1lace>Denver</st1lace></st1:city> out one game, and then defeated them another game even with Iverson going off for 50. And as for <st1:state><st1lace>Utah</st1lace></st1:state>, they may be better than us, but we are more than capable of holding the fort against them. <o></o></p> </p> I don’t know if we’ll be better than San Antonio/Dallas/Phoenix but it sure gives us a better chance then a duo of just Kobe/Kidd, or a trio of Kobe/Kidd/Odom with no depth and no post presence. Kidd is a great player, but at this stage of his career, I’m not willing to break the bank for him, especially since it doesn’t even guarantee we will go far in the playoffs.<o></o></p> </p> It was after, and as a matter of fact, probably only a couple of weeks ago. If you don’t believe me, I’d be more than willing to dig up the article for you. Actually, I believe somebody posted the article already in the Laker forum.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> Again, how could you or any Laker fan take what Kobe Bryant seriously? This guy flip flops more than John Kerry. One day he's happy and wants to stay, the next management is doing a poor job and he wants to leave.</p> </p> Bottom line is, the Lakers are mediocre, just as the Nets are. They can either trade for a player like Jason Kidd, someone who might propel them to the upper-echelon of NBA teams, without giving up Bynum, and that's fine. They also can try to shop Kobe around and find a taker.</p> </p> Either way, if I'm Thorn,and my team's moving to a new arena in two years, and I'm trading away the guy who single handedly turned around the franchise and who is still one of the game's great players,for startersAndrew Bynum, who isn't Jason Kidd, no matter how much improvement he has shown.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Jeff Foster is averging almost ten rebounds a game. Troy Murphy is averging ten points a game. You combine them and you get a double double. Stats don't show everything especailly when your other bigs consist of Mihm and Brown. He is going to get those rebounds and he is going to score but you can't always see the future as this may be his highest peak.</div></p> What the hell is that supposed to mean. Kobe is averaging 27 points per game. Kevin Garnett is averaging 11 rebounds per game. Steve Nash is averaging 12 points per game. Combine them and you get the ultimate player. And I don't see what type of logic you're putting out there by throwing out Kwame Brown and Chris Mihm. What, is Bynum stat padding just because Brown and Mihm aren't so good? It's not like Bynum's putting up a double double by playing huge minutes, he is only averaging 26 minutes per game.</p> "But you can't see the future as this may be highest peak." Wft is this. Is this a joke? The guy has made steady improvements each and every season. Kobe is praising him. Phil and the coaching staff are praising, KAJ is praising him. What more do you want? The same can be said for every single rookie out there. Kevin Durant may never improve because this may be his highest peak. What type of logic is that?</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Heck, Sean in 22 games has already beat Bynums career high of twenty and yet Bynum is the threat down low?</div></p> What? Bynum is averaging a double double and two blocks in 26 minutes. The guy is only 20 years old. What more do you want? Sean Williams has scored more than Bynum? HOLY SHIT!!! Guess what. Charlie Villanueva scored 48 points as a rookie. That means he's better than Andrew Bogut, Marvin Williams, Deron Williams, and Chris Paul.</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Andrew is overhyped. Yes he is talented but I could be too if I was 7 foot and personally being coached by one of the greatest centers of all time.</div></p> So you're saying the only reason why Bynum is successful is because he is 7 feet and he's being coached by KAJ? Wow. What a joke. You are quite a character. I guess every single big would be successful if they were taught under KAJ right? And for the record, KAJ has worked with the Kandi Man, and Jerome James in the past. Look at how well they're doing now.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'>Again, how could you or any Laker fan take what Kobe Bryant seriously? This guy flip flops more than John Kerry. One day he's happy and wants to stay, the next management is doing a poor job and he wants to leave.</div></p> Well what more do you want? He says he's happy. He acts like he's happy in games. He has a close bond with his teamates, what more do you want? The guy has played hard each and every game, and has played through wrist injury,shoulder injury, knee injury, a bruised ribcage, and tonight he's going to play through a groin injury. If he weren't happy, why would he risk his body by playing? If Jason Kidd can sit at home with a migrane, Kobe sure as hell has a great excuse to sit at home with all these injuries, yet he's playing through them, and he's playing tonight against the Clippers. You can break it down all you want, but the facts show that he is happy with the team. And if he isn't, again,he can opt out.</p> </p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Bottom line is, the Lakers are mediocre, just as the Nets are. They can either trade for a player like Jason Kidd, someone who might propel them to the upper-echelon of NBA teams, without giving up Bynum, and that's fine. They also can try to shop Kobe around and find a taker.</div></p> If we can trade for Kidd without giving up Bynum, then I'm all for it 100%. I thought the only reason why we were arguing was because of Bynum being included in a trade for Jason Kidd, which will not happen.</p> </p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Either way, if I'm Thorn,and my team's moving to a new arena in two years, and I'm trading away the guy who single handedly turned around the franchise and who is still one of the game's great players,for startersAndrew Bynum, who isn't Jason Kidd, no matter how much improvement he has shown.</p> </div></p> I don't quite understand this quote, but I guess you're saying that you'd make a huge push for Bynum. That's fine. I understand, but the Lakers didn't trade Bynum for Kidd last season, and they won't trade him this season.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> What the hell is that supposed to mean. Kobe is averaging 27 points per game. Kevin Garnett is averaging 11 rebounds per game. Steve Nash is averaging 12 points per game. Combine them and you get the ultimate player. And I don't see what type of logic you're putting out there by throwing out Kwame Brown and Chris Mihm. What, is Bynum stat padding just because Brown and Mihm aren't so good? It's not like Bynum's putting up a double double by playing huge minutes, he is only averaging 26 minutes per game.</p> "But you can't see the future as this may be highest peak." Wft is this. Is this a joke? The guy has made steady improvements each and every season. Kobe is praising him. Phil and the coaching staff are praising, KAJ is praising him. What more do you want? The same can be said for every single rookie out there. Kevin Durant may never improve because this may be his highest peak. What type of logic is that?</div></p> Then why do you think Kidd will decline?</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'>What? Bynum is averaging a double double and two blocks in 26 minutes. The guy is only 20 years old. What more do you want? Sean Williams has scored more than Bynum? HOLY SHIT!!! Guess what. Charlie Villanueva scored 48 points as a rookie. That means he's better than Andrew Bogut, Marvin Williams, Deron Williams, and Chris Paul?</div></p> So then why does the double double come into discusion if you can't talk about somebodies huge outburst of points. That 48 point outing against the Bucks got him traded there because they were in awe with his talents and now look what he is doing? Benched for Yi.</p> How do you know Bynum will be the future?</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'>So you're saying the only reason why Bynum is successful is because he is 7 feet and he's being coached by KAJ? Wow. What a joke. You are quite a character. I guess every single big would be successful if they were taught under KAJ right? And for the record, KAJ has worked with the Kandi Man, and Jerome James in the past. Look at how well they're doing now.</div></p> I never said it was the only reason but how many other young bigs have a coach just for him? Kobe Bryant didn't even have that. He's hyped more than he's proven right now and you can say he's the future but Sam Bowie was said to be the future as well after three minor seasons.</p> </p>
[quote name='Universe']</p> Then why do you think Kidd will decline?[/quote]</p> What does that have to do with anything. You said Bynum already reached his "peak" which is absolutely ridiculous. Stop swaying away from your arguement.</p> </p> Do you even read what you're posting. Why does a double double come into discussion? Um, because Bynum is averaging a double? Why can't you talk about somebody's huge outburst of points? Because it doesn't mean anything. Sean Williams scored more points than Bynum in one game? Who the hell cares? Like I said, Villanueava scored 48. And like you said, he is now benched for Yi in Miluakee. Why do you even need me to explain why one high scoring game doesn't mean anything? You answered your own stupid question. Villanueava scored 48 in his rookie season, and now he is coming off the bench? Use some logic and answer your own question about how scoring outbursts shouldn't come into discussion.</p> </p> How do you know Jason Kidd won't break down next season? How do you know he won't suffer an injury on Team USA? How do you how many years Kidd has left? You can't. You can't detirmine the future. For all I know, Kobe Bryant will announce his retirement tomorrow. But Bynum has showed solid improvement each and every single season he has stepped foot in the league. Phil Jackson and the coaching staff are praising him. Kobe even says he's impressed with Bynum's improvement and work ethic. KAJ says he's impressed with Bynum, and that he hasn't even tapped into his full potential. Bynum is a 20 year old averaging a double double and two blocks per game. What more do you want? How do you know Kevin Durant or Greg Oden will be the future? You can't.</p> </p> You're back tracking. You said you could be a good player in the NBA if you were 7 feet tall and if you had KAJ as your coach. I already said that KAJ has also tutored Kandi Man and Jerome James. Where are they now? Obviously KAJ's tutoring isn't the only reason why Bynum has been so impressive, and your initial statement was nothing less of retarded</p>
If I were Thorn, any deal with the Lakers would have to include one of their young pgs and Bynum. After that its I would want perhaps Odom, a cap filler, a pick or two, and perhaps a filler(or no filler). I wouldnt mind packaging Kidd with either Collins, Allen, or both.</p> </p> Trading Kidd pretty much means they are doing a rebuilding effort. Since that would be the case, some good young pieces along with a pick or two would have to come in. I can understand the Lakers' hesistancy to trade Bynum, but they need to realize that they are a lower seed playoff team in the West. they cant compete with the likes of Dallas, San Antonio, Utah, Phoenix, etc. with this current roster. Then again, I dont see how adding Kidd would be a huge improvement. Doesnt the triangle offense limit the point guard role a bit. But hey, if they keep Odom, thats a nice core there with Odom, Kobe, and Kidd.</p>
1. I was reffering to how do you know that Jason Kidd has hit his peak.Of course that's farfetched but you just never know.That's just an assumtion.</p> 2. Like I said before, a double double is just a number. He isn't scoring high numbers and he isn't rebounding at the top of the league. Charlie V is actually a great example of playing well and then not playing so well as years go on. You can assume Bynum will play better with years but you never know for sure.</p> 3. THERE! You said what I was looking for. You can't know. Jason Kidd could go on the Lakers an average 20 20 20 or he could average 5 5 5 but you don't know. That's why there is an arguement to both sides. This was my entire point right there and you can argue it but honestly, nobody knows.</p> Oh and calling a statement retarded makes you feel good or something? Everyone has opinions and mine are that Bynum just ain't as good as he is made out to be. Your statement is retarded for having to use a that to make your post seem smarter.</p>
Universe....you have yet to make a good point as to why Bynum is overrated. You are right, everyone has their opinions, but you can't just base your opinion on nothing. Thats like saying Lebron James sucks and leaving it at that. Makes no sense.</p>
[quote name='Universe']</p> 1. I was reffering to how do you know that Jason Kidd has hit his peak.Of course that's farfetched but you just never know.That's just an assumtion.[/quote]</p> No you didnt, here's what you said:</p> "Stats don't show everything especailly when your other bigs consist of Mihm and Brown. He is going to get those rebounds and he is going to score but you can't always see the future as this may be his highest peak."</p> You were saying that Bynum probably already reached his peak at this point of his career, which is absolutely ridiculous.</p> </p> How is a double double just a number? How many players in the league are averaging a double double? How many 20 year olds are averaging a double double to go along with 2 blocks? And don't bring in Charlie Villanueva. I brought him in to show you how your arguement of Sean Williams scoring more points than Andrew Bynum in one game was absolutely ridiculous."Charlie V is actually a great example of playing well and then not playing so well as years go on." Wtf? Are you trying to make an argument? And your point is? The same can be said for every single player out there. Dwight Howard is having a great season, but who cares? He may not play so well as the years go on. I hope you realize how ridiculous your argument is sounding. And for the record, Bynum contributes more to this team than his stats indicate. He is a great presence down low, and alters many shots with his length if he is not blocking them.</p> </p> Yes of course nobody knows what's going to happen. But this whole argument was basically about whether or not we were going to trade away Andrew Bynum. Why would we trade away a promising young player for an old, aging point guard who won't even make us contenders?</p> </p> I'm calling your statement retarded because it is retarded. What's your arguements? That Sean Williams scored more points than Andrew Bynum so that means Bynum isn't a great player? That Andrew Bynum may have already reached his peak and cannot improve any more even though he is only 20 years old, and this is only his third season? That you can be as good as Bynum if you were 7 foot and if you were coached by KAJ, even though KAJ previously coached the Kandi Man and Jerome James? Please. Stop. Re-read your posts. They are nothing short of retarded.</p> </p>
Giving up Andrew Bynum for Jason Kidd right now is like the Lakers in 1997 giving up Kobe for Olajuwon. Why the hell would they do that? You have a young point guard in Marcus Williams who can start right away, we are giving you a triple double threat in Odom, AND we are giving you interior defense which NJ is lacking SO much in w/ Kwame Brown. You are also getting Sasha and Mihm, both fillers. If we give you Java, we want some of your future in return. You are probably actually upgrading trading Boone for Java. But, Thorn won't trade Boone, everyone knows that. And Thorn can propose deals for Bynum until his head goes blue, it's not going to happen. The Lakers future is brighter than the Nets future, so we are actually doing them a favor if we pick up Kidd. And, I'm sorry, but the Sean Williams/Josh Boone/Marcus Williams trio will be NOWHERE NEAR Andrew Bynum/Javaris Crittenton/Jordan Farmar/Trevor Ariza.</p> As for Kobe, no way he wants to be in a Nets uni, and the only way the Lakers look at a deal with Nets is if the deal includes ALL your youngsters, VC/RJ, and Kidd, so no need to even mention Kobe as a trade opportunity. Stop comparing Kidd to Mamba, Kidd is a superstar and future hall of famer, but he's not a top 3 ALL TIME talent.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kidd)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Universe....you have yet to make a good point as to why Bynum is overrated. You are right, everyone has their opinions, but you can't just base your opinion on nothing. Thats like saying Lebron James sucks and leaving it at that. Makes no sense.</p> </div></p> Has already had a Slam page saying how great he will be. (Stupid I know, but annoys me reading about him)</p> Only hit 20 points once in his career.</p> Plays on a front court that is less than appealing and stat worthy.</p> Cannot be traded for a top 3 point guard of all time.</p> I know he can be a top three center in this league but he is nowhere near right now and saying because he is 21 years old is a stupid arguement in any case. I do see why Nets want him because what else are they going to give and who wouldn't want a 7 foot center but when he can barely start over Kwame Brown.</p>
[quote name='Brian']</p> [quote name='Universe']</p> 1. I was reffering to how do you know that Jason Kidd has hit his peak.Of course that's farfetched but you just never know.That's just an assumtion.[/quote]</p> No you didnt, here's what you said:</p> "Stats don't show everything especailly when your other bigs consist of Mihm and Brown. He is going to get those rebounds and he is going to score but you can't always see the future as this may be his highest peak."</p> You were saying that Bynum probably already reached his peak at this point of his career, which is absolutely ridiculous.</p> </p> How is a double double just a number? How many players in the league are averaging a double double? How many 20 year olds are averaging a double double to go along with 2 blocks? And don't bring in Charlie Villanueva. I brought him in to show you how your arguement of Sean Williams scoring more points than Andrew Bynum in one game was absolutely ridiculous."Charlie V is actually a great example of playing well and then not playing so well as years go on." Wtf? Are you trying to make an argument? And your point is? The same can be said for every single player out there. Dwight Howard is having a great season, but who cares? He may not play so well as the years go on. I hope you realize how ridiculous your argument is sounding. And for the record, Bynum contributes more to this team than his stats indicate. He is a great presence down low, and alters many shots with his length if he is not blocking them.</p> </p> Yes of course nobody knows what's going to happen. But this whole argument was basically about whether or not we were going to trade away Andrew Bynum. Why would we trade away a promising young player for an old, aging point guard who won't even make us contenders?</p> </p> I'm calling your statement retarded because it is retarded. What's your arguements? That Sean Williams scored more points than Andrew Bynum so that means Bynum isn't a great player? That Andrew Bynum may have already reached his peak and cannot improve any more even though he is only 20 years old, and this is only his third season? That you can be as good as Bynum if you were 7 foot and if you were coached by KAJ, even though KAJ previously coached the Kandi Man and Jerome James? Please. Stop. Re-read your posts. They are nothing short of retarded.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> Okay I'm to tired to keep going but what I merely saying is Sean Williams can be better than Bynum. Brandon Wrightcan come around and be better than Andrew.Anyone still can because Bynum is not the best. I do not understand why averging a double double when your 20 differs from when your 30 because both help out your team, no?</p> As for Kidd aging, Kobe ages too. But from your point you are assuming Bynum will take over the Kobe role and dominant the league or you believe that Bynum will improve that much in a four year span to actually help the Lakers compete.</p>
