<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Dec 23 2007, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Other disappointments: Andrew Bogut</div> Whoa, just saw this. Bogut's only ever considered a bust because Milwaukee doesn't properly utilize him. Bogut's made huge progress on defense this year, his blocks went up from a half a block a game to over 2. Can't wait till Bogs is out of Milwaukee, because he's a true big man that you can run your offense through, but the Milwaukee offense is so guard oriented with the chuckers they have.
Havnt really got the chance to see Bogut play alot this season so I cant really give my honest opinion on him, the biggest disapointment to me has been Bargnani. I being a Toronto have been the biggest Bargnani supporter out of my group of friends and this season he hasnt played so well especially lately. I think its great to see Bargnani inserted back into the starting lineup because this will be a great confidence booster to him and his development. He has played at his lowest level in December so theres nowhere to go but up and I still expect to have a big 2nd half of the season, the only thing I could use as an excuse would be fatigue. Last season he played pretty much the entire regular season then the playoffs then soon after he played for Italy during the summer to compete for a spot in the Olympics so maybe all those games took its toll on Bargnani or maybe the two knee injuries he suffered this season. Anyways right now im writing him in as my biggest disapointment this season because I had such high expectations for him but I have not given up yet, for all of those people especially Raptor fans who have called him out and said he was a bust will be eating your words once his game comes around.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182 @ Dec 21 2007, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bostjan Nachbar, Kirk Hinrich, Charlie Bell, Shane Battier, Greg Oden , Etan Thomas, Luke Ridnour, Trevor Ariza, James Jones, Sergio Rodriquez, Zaza Pachulia, and the list goes on. Too many disappointments, but maybe just enough surprises (including Kelenna Azuibuke, Chris Kaman, Sean Williams) to keep me content.</div> How is Trevor Ariza a bust?Did people have high expectations on him or what?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Dec 23 2007, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What team do you think he would fit in well?</div> Teams that run systems that flourish with a passing big man. (Utah, Houston, New Jersey, Washington, Miami) Also any team with good spot up shooters who don't generally create their own shots. (Orlando, Toronto) And of course all the Doughnut teams. (Chicago, Indiana, Charlotte) Bogut is a unique player in the NBA. He'd do better just about anywhere simply because he'll touch the ball.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bynumite @ Dec 23 2007, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182 @ Dec 21 2007, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bostjan Nachbar, Kirk Hinrich, Charlie Bell, Shane Battier, Greg Oden , Etan Thomas, Luke Ridnour, Trevor Ariza, James Jones, Sergio Rodriquez, Zaza Pachulia, and the list goes on. Too many disappointments, but maybe just enough surprises (including Kelenna Azuibuke, Chris Kaman, Sean Williams) to keep me content.</div> How is Trevor Ariza a bust?Did people have high expectations on him or what? </div> Well, I expected him to have a bigger role in Orlando. Turns out, they didn't really have a need for him. I expected him to do more there, and he didn't. Now, on the Lakers...that's a different story, and I've lost track of him since the trade.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 23 2007, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Dec 23 2007, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What team do you think he would fit in well?</div> Teams that run systems that flourish with a passing big man. (Utah, Houston, New Jersey, Washington, Miami) Also any team with good spot up shooters who don't generally create their own shots. (Orlando, Toronto) And of course all the Doughnut teams. (Chicago, Indiana, Charlotte) Bogut is a unique player in the NBA. He'd do better just about anywhere simply because he'll touch the ball. </div> Wow, Houston with Adelman would be great for Bogut. And with Washington. Those 2 teams should really try to acquire him, I wanna see what he could do there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182 @ Dec 23 2007, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, Houston with Adelman would be great for Bogut. And with Washington. Those 2 teams should really try to acquire him, I wanna see what he could do there.</div> And how many games better would he make Chicago? 15? 20?
Memo, Giricek, Harpring, Quincy Douby, Bargnani, Ariza, Redick......anyone see what Fran Vasquez doing in Europe?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 23 2007, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182 @ Dec 23 2007, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, Houston with Adelman would be great for Bogut. And with Washington. Those 2 teams should really try to acquire him, I wanna see what he could do there.</div> And how many games better would he make Chicago? 15? 20? </div> Hm. Chicago? Never really thought about that. Depends on a few things. Well, Bogut is a good post presence. If Skiles uses him correctly, they could improve their team. They'd have to throw it to him down low, and use what post skills he has. And then they'd have to figure out the best way to utilize his passing skills. It could be similar to the Bulls when they had Eddy Curry...except about ten times better. I'd say, if they started the season with Bogut, there's a chance their record could be flipped around, 16-9. But, then again, the Bulls' problems might be beyond simply missing a good post presence.
Quentin Richardson, Eddy Curry, Quentin Richardson, Stephon Marbury, Quentin Richardson Oh, and Quentin Richardson.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 23 2007, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Dec 23 2007, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Other disappointments: Andrew Bogut</div> Whoa, just saw this. Bogut's only ever considered a bust because Milwaukee doesn't properly utilize him. Bogut's made huge progress on defense this year, his blocks went up from a half a block a game to over 2. Can't wait till Bogs is out of Milwaukee, because he's a true big man that you can run your offense through, but the Milwaukee offense is so guard oriented with the chuckers they have. </div> Be that as it may, his ppg is down despite more touches, his rpg and apg are down as well (albeit with a few less minutes). Point is, a "bust" is a subjective term, and coming from my point of view, I had higher expectations for Bogut this season. I guess that's my fault for thinking things would be different this year in Milwaukee, but regardless, someone in that situation is a bust, whether it's Milwaukee (probably so) or Bogut himself. It's frustrating to see him have so many bland statlines (given I don't get to actually watch the games anymore, that's what I go on), after having such a prolific career as a Ute. I'd like to see him in New Jersey, although unless they trade for Kidd, I don't think they'd be able to get it done. New Jersey doesn't have the tradable pieces outside of him. Who on their roster aside from Carter and Jefferson is worth Bogut? Maybe throw Sean Williams in a package deal with some other prospects like Boone, Laptop, or Wright, and then you'd have a deal, but it looks like he'll be in Milwaukee otherwise until his free agency.
How can you call James Jones a bust? Dude is one of the locker room leaders and best shooters in the league. If the Blazers didn't have him on there team, I can guarantee you they wouldnt have won 10 straight, Jones has done more than proven his keep this season. If you ever expect him to be a big time starter in the league your delusional
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Dec 24 2007, 02:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How can you call James Jones a bust? Dude is one of the locker room leaders and best shooters in the league. If the Blazers didn't have him on there team, I can guarantee you they wouldnt have won 10 straight, Jones has done more than proven his keep this season. If you ever expect him to be a big time starter in the league your delusional</div> I'm delusional. Actually, to be honest, that was retarded of me to put him up there. It's more of an inside joke with a friend
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182 @ Dec 24 2007, 03:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Dec 24 2007, 02:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How can you call James Jones a bust? Dude is one of the locker room leaders and best shooters in the league. If the Blazers didn't have him on there team, I can guarantee you they wouldnt have won 10 straight, Jones has done more than proven his keep this season. If you ever expect him to be a big time starter in the league your delusional</div> I'm delusional. Actually, to be honest, that was retarded of me to put him up there. It's more of an inside joke with a friend </div> haha no worries man, I just couldn't believe his name up there, I thought he was overproducing this year.
