<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>December 23, 2007 -- THE Lakers are angling to shoplift Jason Kidd, a Western hearing aide claims, for a couple draft picks, Kwame Brown's expiring contract ($9M), Jordan Farmar ($1M) and Vladimir Radmanovic ($5.6M with an additional $19.2M over the next three seasons). Not unexpectedly, the Nets aren't interested in assuming Radmanovic's long-term guarantee. There's nothing not to love about Farmar, yet New Jersey already has a promising, young caretaker in Marcus Williams. Another time-tested source believes the Cavaliers (Drew Gooden) and Mavericks (Erick Dampier) are in better position to provide the Nets with frontcourt help, but neither team nor the Lakers can offer more than the Nuggets - an almost-rehabbed Nene or Marcus Camby vs. Kenyon Martin. According to my hall monitor, coach George Karl urgently wants Kidd to free Allen Iverson to concentrate exclusively on scoring. Aside from one of the two aforementioned big men, Denver is prepared to kick in Linas Kleiza and JR Smith.</div> Wow,the Nuggets are slowly getting involved in this.It really amazed me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid @ Dec 23 2007, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>To All, No thanks.</div> same here but The Nuggets are starting to see what everyone was talking about. I'm pretty sure K-Mart is hoping and praying that Jason is traded to their team so he can finally start earning some of that contract. The Lakers are trying to be slick as hell. I mean come on do they think the Nets are desperate?? We give them Kidd for Brown (who has been under achieving and will prob go down as the worst number one pick ever.) Rad (who they regretted signing since he went all SSX Tricky) and Jordan (who I actually like but is not needed when you have Marcus). If this deal went down the Lakers would look like Kidd Bryant Walton Odom Bynum plus fisher coming off the bench Hellllllllllllllllllllllllll naw. The way Bynum has been playing and you add Kidd to that mix the Lakers would go from pretenders to contenders.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Dec 23 2007, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Where is that quote from?</div> http://www.nypost.com/seven/12232007/sport..._net_871855.htm
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 23 2007, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hmmm...if Nene can get healthy, Nene, Kleiza, JR and a first round pick</div> I have no faith in Nene being able to stay on the court. Maybe he'd prove me wrong...but I'm really not sold on him. And his contract is a huge risk because of that at this point.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToddMacCulloch11 @ Dec 23 2007, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Dec 23 2007, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Where is that quote from?</div> http://www.nypost.com/seven/12232007/sport..._net_871855.htm </div> In other words it has no credibility
heres a deal i would do...would help out all 3 teams involved.. would only do this though if kidd wanted to be traded. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...p;te=&cash= Nets get some great young talent, along with some expiring contracts and a first rounder from denver. obviously smush and zo would be waived immediately. Williams will have to earn his contract with us, we get young talent in Smith, Cook and Kleiza. This will also free up cap space so we can resign Boki and Krstic if needed. Heat gets Camby who will help them in the frontcourt since they lost Zo (who looks as if hes going to retire now) they have been looking to move J-Will for sometime now, and Smush wont be playing another game for them anyways..they get Atkins who can play the PG spot when Wade isnt doing so. However not everything just falls into your lap...so they would have to give up Cook. Denver gets Kidd and gets rid of the players that was mentioned in the article.
Honestly with Marcus coming off injury I think it would be dumb to trade Kidd away without getting a PG in return...LA is crazy if they think that proposal will do it...but they don't that's a starting offer. They won't give up Bynum and there starting low to see if we'll bite. If they through say Ariza and Turiaf into the mix then I think that deal is interesting. Also Cleveland would be interesting because Drew Gooden would give us a Dynamic young frontcourt...think about...Boone, Nenad, Williams and Gooden all in the same frontcourt. Grab Shannon Brown, Eric Snow (to back up Marcus) and a first and you might have an interesting deal as well. I love Jason Kidd but I think maybe more than ever this team could survive without him...Carter and RJ seem to have finally meshed as players and there games are actually complimenting eachothers...our biggest problem as a team is depth as our second unit is just God Awful...All the offers would need to improve to happen but Im just saying Im not oppposed to change.
These trades they're discussing are a joke. Any trade with lakers would have to include Bynum and Farmar, and that wouldn't happen. And trade with Cleveland...well, they have Gooden, Brown, and Gibson, and that's not really enough. And then Denver has a bunch of bigs, but no point guard. If anything happens, it'd prolly have to be a three-way trade.
Honestly I value Kidd as much as the next guy but some fans on here are a little ridiculous with how valuable he is a player...I mean I wouldn't put him on the same level as Shaq or Garnett yet everyone here expects the farm for him. I mean Kidd doesn't score that much and he's 35 years old...you can't take someones whole team for him...he's not Kobe. A Lakers package should look like this either Kwame Brown PF Trevor Ariza SF Jordon Farmar Vladimir Radmonivic SF/PF and either a 1st rounder/Ronny Turiaf. (I actually think the Lakers would do this...and so would I we'd be solid two deep with all those players for years) I think Cleveland is an unlikely trade partner but if they wanted to trade a package from Cleveland would look like Daniel Gibson PG Shannon Brown SG Cedric Simmons PF Drew Gooden PF Ira Newble SF (they wouldn't want to give that much away but Eric Snow, Damon Jones and Donyell Marshall are just bad contracts)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Dec 23 2007, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Honestly I value Kidd as much as the next guy but some fans on here are a little ridiculous with how valuable he is a player...I mean I wouldn't put him on the same level as Shaq or Garnett yet everyone here expects the farm for him. I mean Kidd doesn't score that much and he's 35 years old...you can't take someones whole team for him...he's not Kobe. A Lakers package should look like this either Kwame Brown PF Trevor Ariza SF Jordon Farmar Vladimir Radmonivic SF/PF and either a 1st rounder/Ronny Turiaf. (I actually think the Lakers would do this...and so would I we'd be solid two deep with all those players for years)</div> Thank God, a rational Nets fan! The deal that is being rumored out here is: Kwame, Farmar, Vlad or Luke, and 2 picks (at least one a first). As a Laker fan, I'd like to keep Vlad because the idea of Kidd kicking it out to him when driving is beautiful. We need Vlad to get healthy, though.
Wait, is that saying they might give up Camby for Kidd? Imagine a frontcourt of Camby and Sean. Damn. Still no way in hell I trade Kidd, though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Dec 23 2007, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Dec 23 2007, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Honestly I value Kidd as much as the next guy but some fans on here are a little ridiculous with how valuable he is a player...I mean I wouldn't put him on the same level as Shaq or Garnett yet everyone here expects the farm for him. I mean Kidd doesn't score that much and he's 35 years old...you can't take someones whole team for him...he's not Kobe. A Lakers package should look like this either Kwame Brown PF Trevor Ariza SF Jordon Farmar Vladimir Radmonivic SF/PF and either a 1st rounder/Ronny Turiaf. (I actually think the Lakers would do this...and so would I we'd be solid two deep with all those players for years)</div> Thank God, a rational Nets fan! The deal that is being rumored out here is: Kwame, Farmar, Vlad or Luke, and 2 picks (at least one a first). As a Laker fan, I'd like to keep Vlad because the idea of Kidd kicking it out to him when driving is beautiful. We need Vlad to get healthy, though. </div> Thank you...I try to be but I can understand why a lot of other Nets fans feel so strongly about Kidd I mean he did save our franchise. I think Vlad has to be included to make the money work...also I think Ariza would need to be included too. But lets say we did Jkidd for Farmar, Kwame, Ariza, Vlad and a 2008 1st rounder...that would give the Lakers this PG: Jkidd, Derek Fisher SG: Kobe Bryant, Vulajec, Crittenton SF: Walton PF: Odom, Turiaf C: Bynum, Mihm That's a pretty dangerous team. For the Nets it would look like PG: Williams, Farmar, Armstrong SG: Vince, Wright SF: RJ, Boki, Ariza PF: Vlad, Sean Williams C: Josh Boone, Nenad, Collins That's a deep team that could run.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Dec 23 2007, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Dec 23 2007, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Honestly I value Kidd as much as the next guy but some fans on here are a little ridiculous with how valuable he is a player...I mean I wouldn't put him on the same level as Shaq or Garnett yet everyone here expects the farm for him. I mean Kidd doesn't score that much and he's 35 years old...you can't take someones whole team for him...he's not Kobe. A Lakers package should look like this either Kwame Brown PF Trevor Ariza SF Jordon Farmar Vladimir Radmonivic SF/PF and either a 1st rounder/Ronny Turiaf. (I actually think the Lakers would do this...and so would I we'd be solid two deep with all those players for years)</div> Thank God, a rational Nets fan! The deal that is being rumored out here is: Kwame, Farmar, Vlad or Luke, and 2 picks (at least one a first). As a Laker fan, I'd like to keep Vlad because the idea of Kidd kicking it out to him when driving is beautiful. We need Vlad to get healthy, though. </div> A "rational Nets fan" should know that in most trades, Thorn either trades to rape the other team, or save some money. The arguement that "Kidd doesn't score that much" is one of the weakest arguements I've ever heard, and proves your limited knowledge of basketball. After all, you don't need to score to contribute to a win. And anyways, no way we'd pick up Vlad or Luke, their contracts are ugly as hell. However a package of Farmar/Crit, Kwame, and Ariza intrigues me. I forgot about Ariza in LA. I like Ariza, he'd be a pretty solid pickup.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182 @ Dec 23 2007, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Dec 23 2007, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Dec 23 2007, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Honestly I value Kidd as much as the next guy but some fans on here are a little ridiculous with how valuable he is a player...I mean I wouldn't put him on the same level as Shaq or Garnett yet everyone here expects the farm for him. I mean Kidd doesn't score that much and he's 35 years old...you can't take someones whole team for him...he's not Kobe. A Lakers package should look like this either Kwame Brown PF Trevor Ariza SF Jordon Farmar Vladimir Radmonivic SF/PF and either a 1st rounder/Ronny Turiaf. (I actually think the Lakers would do this...and so would I we'd be solid two deep with all those players for years)</div> Thank God, a rational Nets fan! The deal that is being rumored out here is: Kwame, Farmar, Vlad or Luke, and 2 picks (at least one a first). As a Laker fan, I'd like to keep Vlad because the idea of Kidd kicking it out to him when driving is beautiful. We need Vlad to get healthy, though. </div> A "rational Nets fan" should know that in most trades, Thorn either trades to rape the other team, or save some money. The arguement that "Kidd doesn't score that much" is one of the weakest arguements I've ever heard, and proves your limited knowledge of basketball. After all, you don't need to score to contribute to a win. And anyways, no way we'd pick up Vlad or Luke, their contracts are ugly as hell. However a package of Farmar/Crit, Kwame, and Ariza intrigues me. I forgot about Ariza in LA. I like Ariza, he'd be a pretty solid pickup. </div> I hope you're talking to him and not me. I didn't make the argument about Kidd's scoring incapabilities, he did.
