Boylan: Gordon to the Bench

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  1. MikeDC

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    No link, interview on the Score.

    The bad old days are here again.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jim Paxson)</div><div class='quotemain'>"Jim has paid his dues as an assistant coach and has his own ideas on the way he wants us to play,"</div>

    Got that right.
     
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    Here's a link from the Trib:
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Later, the team said that Chris Duhon would be starting, with Ben Gordon moving to sixth man.</div>

    Coach Paxson's first move.
     
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    Lets see how this pans out.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MJordan @ Dec 27 2007, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lets see how this pans out.</div>

    This is a blessing in disguise for Gordon. He's going to look better and have an easier time against weaker competition.

    Still, if I were him I would stick it to the Bulls when summer comes around and takes the 1 year tender, then goes to another team 2 years from now.
     
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    The bulls need to do something to kickstart Hinrich's game. You'd think playing him against other teams' 2nd units would give him a chance against the "weaker" competition, but this way he gets to shoot pretty much as much as he wants (or let Wallace or Duhon shoot it more!).

    Talk about coaching by proxy... this is playing PG by proxy [​IMG]
     
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    Any new coach would do the same thing and experiment with the lineup. I'm sure there will be a lot of lineup and rotation changes until he finds a mix he's comfortable with.

    Having Hinrich come off the bench to jump start his season sounds like a good idea actually, and now would be the time to do it without getting a lot of grief.
     
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    We're going back to what worked way back when ( briefly ) when Skiles took over

    I am not opposed to Chris Duhon being our starting point guard because quite frankly Kirk is not a point guard

    All of this is designed to get the flow of our offense going but also to be setting the tone defensively which is what Duhon can do. He is never going to be a scorer and if we are not going to swing a trade for a legit big time point guard like Jason Kidd we need a bigger scoring guard

    Which is why I want to see what a smaller scoring guard with some handle like JamesOn Curry can do . If he can get some playing time and prove that he can give us a lot of what Ben Gordon can then we have Duhon as lead point , Curry as smaller scoring guard from the bench which then allows us to look at trade options for Kirk and Ben

    So... moving Kirk for Jason Williams ( expiring contract )and Dequan Cook may make some sense .....

    If we could also send out Ben Gordon and Ben Wallace for Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown , Ronny Turiaf - with Odom , Nocioni and Brown and Chicago's 2008 draft pick ( top 5 protected going to Memphis, Mike Miller and a future 1st round draft pick from Memphis going to the Clippers and Pau Gasol , Corey Magette and Ronny Turiaf coming to Chicago



    Turiaf
    Gasol
    Deng
    Magette
    Duhon

    <u>bench</u>

    Noah
    Smith
    Thomas
    Cook/Curry
    Williams



    Bottom line is our Hinrich and Gordon really need to go

    The majority of our problem is on the perimeter and our crap ball movement . That and the sucktitude of Ben Wallace
     
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    So we bench the guy who was our best player last night? Not bench that idiot point guard who led the 2nd quarter collapse?

    I guess these are the types of coaching moves you get when you hire a guy who has just been the assistant coach on a bunch of bad and mediocre teams.

    I guess I'll be praying for a ton of early fouls on Hinrich from now on. Hopefully Carlisle, Van Gundy, Brown etc. can come in and try to salvage the season before Boylan beats us into the ground too much.

    Although I suspect that Paxson wants this too, so he can drive Gordon's value into the ground before free agency. Whats next, Deng to bench, Nocioni to start?
     
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    We cannot have a one game wonder person, BG7. Gordon seems to play better off the bench. Maybe it is because he is more relaxed and already knows what is needed of him. Until Gordon can be comfortable from start, he needs to come off the bench.

    I agree, rwj.

    As for Kirk...It is isn't so much he needs to go, he just needs to be more keen to his responsibilities. It is like Hinrich knows what he has to do, but just doesn't take the right approach, or he will take the right approach but then not execute it 100 percent. Hinrich has one of the best strokes and minds, but his execution is killing it all.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MJordan @ Dec 28 2007, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We cannot have a one game wonder person, BG7. Gordon seems to play better off the bench. Maybe it is because he is more relaxed and already knows what is needed of him. Until Gordon can be comfortable from start, he needs to come off the bench.

    I agree, rwj.

    As for Kirk...It is isn't so much he needs to go, he just needs to be more keen to his responsibilities. It is like Hinrich knows what he has to do, but just doesn't take the right approach, or he will take the right approach but then not execute it 100 percent. Hinrich has one of the best strokes and minds, but his execution is killing it all.</div>

    The difference between Gordon as a starter and Gordon off the bench, is that when he comes off the bench, we give him the keys to the offense. He has the ball in his hands, he's the playmaker.

    Boylan is doing an above average job, because Gordon as the man off the bench is better than Gordon being ignored as Hinrich dribbles around. Boylan would be a great coach if he benched Hinrich, and let Gordon run the offense from the offset of the game.
     

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