NFC Divisional RD: #5 New York Giants (11-6) @ #1 Dallas Cowboys (13-3)

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  1. AEM

    AEM Gesundheit

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    It does seem that Romo relies on TO way too much though. Granted, that's not atypical for young QBs, but it's something he needs to get past in order to truly be an elite QB.
     
  2. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    Division rivalry aside, I have a hard time figuring out what Romo actually did wrong. They ran the ball for the majority of the game (it was justified, seeing as Marion was running wild) and he made the majority of the throws he was required to make. His recievers dropped a crapload of easy catches and in the 2nd half his O-line fell apart. And that's not even mentioning the ridiculous amount of ill-timed penalties that the Cowboys committed. Really, the only mistakes I noticed was that he didn't throw the ball away on a couple sacks and drew an intentional grounding the one time he did throw it away. But that was hardly the reason they lost and is barely worth mentioning in the grand scheme of things.

    You look at the stats and Dallas dominated time of possession and gained more yards, but somehow put up fewer points than New York. The reason for that is dumbass penalties/dropped balls at the worst times and an inability to get at Eli when he it most mattered (that 50 second drive before the half was a momentum killer, IMO).

    But whatever, I'll take it. The shots of Jerry Jones were pure classic.
     
  3. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    I love that picture. Owens looks like a wussier Isaac Hayes.
     
  4. ghoti

    ghoti A PhD in Horribleness

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    LOL. This guy is awesome!
     
  5. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I wouldn't put it past Jones to fire Wade just to secure Jason Garrett as the HC, instead of him taking a position elsewhere.

    Romo didn't come through in the clutch at all Chut. It seemed the whole 4th quarter the 'Boys were inside of the Giants 45, but he couldn't manage to make the throws to get the ball into the end zone. He kept looking for a big strike and couldn't come through. I thought he played a piss poor game, honestly. He completed only 50% of his passes and threw a pick. He was completely outplayed by Eli.

    So far, Romo doesn't seem to have the ability to pull through in meaningful games. Because of that, there is no reason why he should be even mentioned in the same damn sentence...paper...essay...report...book...as Brett Favre.
     
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    ghoti A PhD in Horribleness

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    It's not Romo's fault that all the Dallas O-Linemen are 400 pounds and wore out after being on the field all day.

    He got hit on every single play in the 4th quarter.

    Could he have played better? I guess so. But I never got the sense that he was the reason they lost.

    The Giants were better and that's why they won. I thought Dallas played pretty well.
     
  7. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I disagree..and it's not because I'm not a Romo fan. It's not because he was in Mexico with Jessica...if anyone believes that, they're stupid...downright stupid. Romo is supposed to be the team leader and create things when there is nothing there. Look at Brady, Peyton, Favre, Elway...all of these great QB's have a history of leading comebacks and creating plays when they face adversity.

    Eli Manning did it today, Philip Rivers has been doing it the last half of the season...these are two young QB's who I put on par with Romo, they might not be as good as him RIGHT NOW, but the potential is there for both of them. They've both had success leading their team against adversity...I'm not saying Romo can't, but he needs to step up and show that he can. He's got all the tools to be a top QB in the league, but until he gets the monkey off his back, I don't think he's a top QB.

    Now I do agree with the Giants being the better team. Their defense in the second half was simply amazing and Romo couldn't solve it. He's mobile, he could've made some plays with his legs...and of course, the one time he tried to, he lost 14 yards....but I just don't think you can overlook how ineffective Romo was in the second half of the game. That last pass, granted it was 4th down, was completely forced to the receiver...he even admitted it.

    A lot of people underrated them coming into the game and I thought that was absolutely foolish. They're an amazing road team and should give Green Bay one hell of a game next weekend depending on which Eli shows up because Lambeau Field during the playoffs isn't a regular stadium.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jan 14 2008, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div align="center">[​IMG]</div>

    I love that picture. Owens looks like a wussier Isaac Hayes.</div>

    Is it bad that I watched that clip and all I could think of was the "Leave Brittney Alone!" video?

    As for the game, I think it does show that Romo has been overrated. Romo has been put among the elite QBs in the league, where his numbers indicate that he should be. However, he's still a second year QB who hasn't faced a whole lot of adversity for his quaterbacking. Before you all hop down my throat, I know about how last season ended. People critiqued his ability as a holder, but as a quarterback, there were no questions. I think if he ever deserves to be mentioned among the elite QBs in the league, this loss will do a lot to make him get there.
     
  9. playaofthegame

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    Honestly I'm kind of annoyed at all the credit Eli is getting for "leading" the Giants here. Most of his stats are his receivers getting a lot of yards after catch. He only had about 160 yards and a touchdown. It's the Giants' game on the ground that led them to this point. There's long stretches in the games where Coughlin doesn't even let Eli pass the ball because of how much of a choke artist he is. How is that "leading" your team to victory?
     
  10. Chutney

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jan 14 2008, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Honestly I'm kind of annoyed at all the credit Eli is getting for "leading" the Giants here. Most of his stats are his receivers getting a lot of yards after catch. He only had about 160 yards and a touchdown. It's the Giants' game on the ground that led them to this point. There's long stretches in the games where Coughlin doesn't even let Eli pass the ball because of how much of a choke artist he is. How is that "leading" your team to victory?</div>
    No, not really. That early 52 yard catch by Amani Toomer was the only pass where a receiver got significant yards after the catch. The Giants build off the run game, but it was shut down for the 2nd and 4th quarters (they only rushed for 90 yards the entire game). The turning point of the game was the 46 second drive before the end of the half that tied the game and it consisted entirely of passing plays. Eli managed the clock and was able to beat a Dallas D that knew he was going to pass.

    Eli deserves the credit he's gotten. Here's a guy that was up and down during the season and threw 20 interceptions. He hasn't thrown a single pick in the playoffs, let alone turn the ball over, has been incredibly efficient and has made throws when the Giants needed it most. His passer rating over the last 3 games has been incredible and every important TD drive has started with him. And all this has been done against very good defenses.
     
  11. Shapecity

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    The T.O. crying moment inspired Dan Patrick to have a segment on his show today called "When is it ok for men to cry?"

    So I pose this question to you.
     
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    I find myself agreeing with Chutney and Mamba on a lot of points in this thread. Nice job you two.
     

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