<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 13 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 12 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He averaged 6 and 6 last year...he isn't really what I'd call declined. Frank doesn't like him and therefore he doesn't play him. I love how everyone brings up Mikki Moore.</div>That came mostly in garbage minutes when you consider where his team ranked last season. There's also a big difference between Mikki and Magloire. Mikki is quick while Magloire is slow; Mikki can catch and pass the ball, Magloire can't; Mikki can hit jumpers, Magloire can't; Mikki has the fighting spirit, Magloire is very sporadic with that. If I were coach, I wouldn't play Magloire either. He stagnates the offense and isn't really a good defender as he plays good D very sporadically. It's so funny on how some fans rave on his D on one isolated play. The game has changed, it has become faster, and sad to say Magloire is one of its victims. </div> Magliore is both faster, quicker and stronger than Collins...explain to me why Collins plays over Mikki. Can people please get over Mikki Moore already jesus!
Because unlike Magloire, Collins doesnt stagnate the offense. He also doesnt sulk when his minutes are reduced. The problem with him is that the team is forced to have a lineup where other players dont suck offensively as well. Meaning, the team becomes restricted. For example-playing Wright and Collins at the same time is not good.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L @ Jan 13 2008, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Because unlike Magloire, Collins doesnt stagnate the offense. He also doesnt sulk when his minutes are reduced. The problem with him is that the team is forced to have a lineup where other players dont suck offensively as well. Meaning, the team becomes restricted. For example-playing Wright and Collins at the same time is not good.</div> huh? Did you mean Collins doesn't stagnate the defense?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 13 2008, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Magliore is both faster, quicker and stronger than Collins...explain to me why Collins plays over Mikki. Can people please get over Mikki Moore already jesus!</div>An inch faster and quicker doesn't make much difference. Collins has the beef to protect Mikki from the stronger players and Collins did not play over Mikki, they played together. And explain to me why you brought up Mikki in the first place in this discussion and you tell us to get over it. You seem to have the mind of a Magloire.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 13 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>explain to me why you brought up Mikki in the first place in this discussion and you tell us to get over it.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 12 2008, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 12 2008, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jamal Magliore is a former all-star with far better career averages and production ability of these two CRAPPY OVERRATED PLAYERS.</div>Jamal Magloire was an all-star at a time when Ben Wallace was the only worthy starting center in the East. His averages have gone done ever since and the Nets is his 4th team in the last few years. Rod Thorn was expecting a Mikki Moore effect but it didn't happen. </div> That's how Mikki Moore was brought up. BY YOU! Read the whole goddamn thread before you post. As a matter of fact reread your post cause you make no sense... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 13 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Collins has the beef to protect Mikki from the stronger players and Collins did not play over Mikki, they played together.</div> What? How is this relevant? Mikki and Collins played together because NENAD AND JOSH GOT HURT...there was no alternative. As for Collin's "beef" it must be ground beef because Glen "Big Baby" Davis ATE HIM UP FRIDAY! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 12 2008, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You seem to have the mind of a Magloire.</div> Magloire must be an intelligent Nets fan then.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 13 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 13 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>explain to me why you brought up Mikki in the first place in this discussion and you tell us to get over it.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 12 2008, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 12 2008, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jamal Magliore is a former all-star with far better career averages and production ability of these two CRAPPY OVERRATED PLAYERS.</div>Jamal Magloire was an all-star at a time when Ben Wallace was the only worthy starting center in the East. His averages have gone done ever since and the Nets is his 4th team in the last few years. Rod Thorn was expecting a Mikki Moore effect but it didn't happen. </div> That's how Mikki Moore was brought up. BY YOU! Read the whole goddamn thread before you post. As a matter of fact reread your post cause you make no sense... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 13 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Collins has the beef to protect Mikki from the stronger players and Collins did not play over Mikki, they played together.</div> What? How is this relevant? Mikki and Collins played together because NENAD AND JOSH GOT HURT...there was no alternative. As for Collin's "beef" it must be ground beef <span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">because Glen "Big Baby" Davis ATE HIM UP FRIDAY!</span> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 12 2008, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You seem to have the mind of a Magloire.</div> Magloire must be an intelligent Nets fan then. </div> I freaked out.I was pissed as shyt.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 13 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's how Mikki Moore was brought up. BY YOU! Read the whole goddamn thread before you post. As a matter of fact reread your post cause you make no sense...</div>I brought him up as an adjective and you took it in a different context. It means he was hoping Magloire would do a Mikki Moore. Read the pre-season articles. So if it does not make sense to you I can understand now. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>What? How is this relevant? Mikki and Collins played together because NENAD AND JOSH GOT HURT...there was no alternative.</div>There was still Uncle Cliffey. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As for Collin's "beef" it must be ground beef because Glen "Big Baby" Davis ATE HIM UP FRIDAY!</div>That's a different story altogether. Big Baby is 6'8, 290 lbs. Collins is 6'10, 250 lbs. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Magloire must be an intelligent Nets fan then.</div>I would love him to be an intelligent Nets fan and stay at that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 11 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Observations from tonight's game... 1) We have no bench. Boki Nachbar is are only consistent player on the bench. He is the most consistent of the bunch offensively and is also a solid defender. While Antione Wright is a good defender he is also an offensive liabitly...his spot should be taken by a shooter. Typical Antione Wright possession is this: Pass to Wright beyond the three point line...gives up the open shot, drives, and either takes poor shot or makes wild pass. Jason Collins and Darrell Armstrong are overrated defenders...and huge offensively liabilities. Marcus Williams is yet to get a shot since coming back (likely won't unless injury) and Magliore is being screwed (my opinion) 2) Vince and RJ don't mesh...I'm back onto this theory because honeslty Vince plays more like a small forward not a shooting guard. Wonder why Pierce and Allen play so well together? Because Pierce slashes and shoots mostly midrange, Allen hits the threeball and midrange and doesnt drive to the hoop primarily. 3) We cannot score against a zone...why? Because the Nets management has neglected to bring shooters to this team. Honestly unless Vince, RJ, or Boki is hot they are horribly inconsistent from long range...same goes for Kidd. We need to bring in somebody who is a three ball scoring machine...doesnt have to be a star could be a steve kerr type player but it's necessary. 4) If Josh Boone can learn to hit 60% at the FT line he could be an allstar. Im serious. He's only a second year player but as his confidence grows so will his ability. Look at tonight 14 points, 16 rebounds (8 offensive), 4 blocks and 2 assists. Played great defense on Garnett...every shot was contested well. Say he hit even half his free throws...we'd be looking at 17 and 16. 5) Lawrence Frank SUCKS. Yeah I'm sorry I know the bench sucks, but he makes it worse. He chooses not to play Magliore and instead opts for two career losers in Collins and Allen. He also chooses to sit Marcus instead of giving him playing time to develop like Boone and Swat have. I'm sorry but the NBA should have a height requirement for coaches...if he can't ride a rollercoaster how can he coach this team? I'm tired of this midget.</div> You're reason for saying vince and RJ don't mesh just doesn't add up. Vince plays more like a small forward? Vince has been shooting jumpers most of the time, Sounds like a shooting guard to me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 13 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 13 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's how Mikki Moore was brought up. BY YOU! Read the whole goddamn thread before you post. As a matter of fact reread your post cause you make no sense...</div>I brought him up as an adjective and you took it in a different context. It means he was hoping Magloire would do a Mikki Moore. Read the pre-season articles. So if it does not make sense to you I can understand now. </div> You used him as an example...call it an adjective if you want but in reality it was an example and therefore I had to respond to it. You brought him into this thread...I just responded to it. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 13 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 13 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What? How is this relevant? Mikki and Collins played together because NENAD AND JOSH GOT HURT...there was no alternative.</div>There was still Uncle Cliffey. </div> A broken down weed smokin 41 year old isn't much of an alternative...that may be the explanation Mikki got so many minutes...CAUSE FRANK HAD TO PLAY HIM. Look at Frank's history...he always does that...he only plays players when he has too. Nenad his first year, Mikki last year and Josh and Swat this year. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 13 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 13 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> As for Collin's "beef" it must be ground beef because Glen "Big Baby" Davis ATE HIM UP FRIDAY!</div>That's a different story altogether. Big Baby is 6'8, 290 lbs. Collins is 6'10, 250 lbs. </div> Collin's is still supposed to be the "beef" right? If he can't stop big baby then he can't stop Shaq...why should he play? hmm....oh yeah he shouldn't/ <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Jan 13 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 13 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> Magloire must be an intelligent Nets fan then.</div>I would love him to be an intelligent Nets fan and stay at that. </div> clairfy...you want him to stay a fan, on the bench or on the team? Otherwise the statement didn't need to be made <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (King John da FiF @ Jan 13 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're reason for saying vince and RJ don't mesh just doesn't add up. Vince plays more like a small forward? Vince has been shooting jumpers most of the time, Sounds like a shooting guard to me.</div> Dude Vince is the streakiest shooter I've ever seen...sometimes he's straight fire and then other times he's brick city. Honestly he's at his best when he's driving and stroking a mid range J...problem is that to compliment RJ he needs to stay more towards the perimter. Look at his game when RJ is on the bench. He's more active, aggressive and accurate...almost dominant. He seems to shift into another gear and becoming a scoring machine, driving to the hole. A good example of this would be the Celtics game last Friday 3rd period when RJ was on the bench...VINCE WAS INSANE.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 13 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>clairfy...you want him to stay a fan, on the bench or on the team? Otherwise the statement didn't need to be made</div>You called him an intelligent Nets fan and I agree with you. He managed to get a courtside seat beside all the players.
