Sean Williams- Trade Chip

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  1. ghoti

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    New Jersey Nets

    Incoming Players

    [​IMG]Udonis Haslem

    Salary: $6,050,000 Years Remaining: 3
    PTS: 12.7 REB: 9.2 AST: 1.4 PER: 13.25

    Outgoing Players: Sean Williams, Jamaal Magloire[​IMG]
    Miami Heat

    Incoming Players

    [​IMG]Sean Williams

    Salary: $1,416,600 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 7.1 REB: 5.4 AST: 0.5 PER: 16.81
    [​IMG]Jamaal Magloire

    Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 2.1 REB: 3.8 AST: 0.4 PER: 2.01

    Outgoing Players: Udonis Haslem


    or



    New Jersey Nets

    Incoming Players

    [​IMG]J.R. Smith

    Salary: $2,134,067 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 9.7 REB: 1.9 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.10
    [​IMG]Marcus Camby

    Salary: $11,250,000 Years Remaining: 3
    PTS: 9.0 REB: 13.9 AST: 3.1 PER: 18.23

    Outgoing Players: Jason Collins, Sean Williams, Marcus Williams, Jamaal Magloire[​IMG]
    Denver Nuggets

    Incoming Players

    [​IMG]Jason Collins

    Salary: $6,100,000 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 1.4 REB: 2.2 AST: 0.5 PER: 2.10
    [​IMG]Sean Williams

    Salary: $1,416,600 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 7.1 REB: 5.4 AST: 0.5 PER: 16.81
    [​IMG]Marcus Williams

    Salary: $1,180,200 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 1.3 REB: 1.0 AST: 0.9 PER: 1.79
    [​IMG]Jamaal Magloire

    Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 2.1 REB: 3.8 AST: 0.4 PER: 2.01

    Outgoing Players: J.R. Smith, Marcus Camby


    or



    New Jersey Nets

    Incoming Players

    [​IMG]Emeka Okafor

    Salary: $5,427,307 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 12.6 REB: 10.2 AST: 0.6 PER: 16.99
    [​IMG]Adam Morrison

    Salary: $3,887,880 Years Remaining: 2

    Outgoing Players: Antoine Wright, Nenad Krstic, Sean Williams, Jamaal Magloire[​IMG]
    Charlotte Bobcats

    Incoming Players
    [​IMG]Antoine Wright

    Salary: $1,680,600 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 8.2 REB: 3.2 AST: 1.6 PER: 8.73
    [​IMG]Nenad Krstic

    Salary: $1,889,760 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 4.9 REB: 3.3 AST: 0.2 PER: 2.30
    [​IMG]Sean Williams

    Salary: $1,416,600 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 7.1 REB: 5.4 AST: 0.5 PER: 16.81
    [​IMG]Jamaal Magloire

    Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 2.1 REB: 3.8 AST: 0.4 PER: 2.01

    Outgoing Players: Emeka Okafor, Adam Morrison
     
  2. Black Republican

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    I like the Miami one.
     
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    Okafor and Camby trades are appealing.

    Camby is realistic, they are very much over the cap and getting a young shot blocker like Williams is appealing.

    Okafor is not. He is their franchise player, they gave up Brandan Wright because they saw Okafor as a win now type guy.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jan 12 2008, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the Miami one.</div>
    adding Haslem makes us contenders and solves our O problems??? yeah, right
     
  5. Joey FistPump

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    The Denver trade would be appealling...I'd hate to lose Sean Williams or Marcus but to bring back Camby and pair him up with Boone would be a very dynamic frontcourt especially with Nenad coming back...JR Smith would be our sixth man a guy who is a playmaker to put next to Boki when players need a break...it be tempting.
     
  6. Netsfan318

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    I know your a commish and everything but I had to give my opinion here

    first off Trade #1 for Haslem why ? Sean Williams is going to be a better player than Udonis when it's all said and done plus you control Sean for 4 yrs. and a very cheap price for what he's giving you, Mags expires after this season dangle him to another team. Your making Miami a better future team and NJ a question mark after this deal.

    Trade # 2 w/ Denver OMG com'on man, JR Smith good talent has some issues and bringing him back to NJ IDK what it would do for his makeup, Camby I love him and I would be ecstatic getting rid of Collins, but Sean and Marcus again players you control and might lead the Nets post Kidd and Kirstic. Marcus Williams is the PG in waiting, Sean Williams is the developing big in waiting. Camby is already aging and has been some what injury prone, why do this deal especially paying him more than Sean and Marcus would combine, remember the plan is for LeBron to come home... [​IMG]

    Trade # 3 again why ? Emeka will be a FA if you want him get him in the offseason if you can shed cap space, Morrison you mean cave man who hasn't played a full season at all ? again why, you have AW who can do more give him time, under Kiki he'll learn to better his shooting mechanics like Croshere and Dirk did. And another thing you realize all the deals you posted hurt the Nets future in cap space and a little flexibility, put it this way no Marcus Williams NJ would have to give Kidd a blank check, no SW or AW and Morrison gets hurt whose is your wing player ? and Emeka would be heavily persuited by sucker teams wanting to give him a max contract, so we lose out here.

    What I haven't heard are some small deals that make sense for instance long contracts for shorter and talent.

    if Chicago wants T-mac aka 1/2 man, 1/2 a season why not dangle Carter

    Chicago Trade

    or go talk w/ the Clippers

    Clippers Trade


    point is get flexibility back, improve an area needed and get shorter contracts to free up space for

    [​IMG]
     
  7. ghoti

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    I never said I would make any of these trades.

    I just want to see what people think Sean Williams is worth.

    I will say that if the Nets trade Sean Williams, they are not considering the future at all. It's purely a short-term grab at a title run.
     
  8. Netsfan318

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jan 12 2008, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I never said I would make any of these trades.

    I just want to see what people think Sean Williams is worth.</div>

    oh I jumped to conclusions agains sorry man.. for what it's worth I wouldn't deal Sean Williams unless I get back Bynum or a Chris Paul or a Lebron in a package.
     
  9. Joey FistPump

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 12 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if Chicago wants T-mac aka 1/2 man, 1/2 a season why not dangle Carter

    Chicago Trade

    or go talk w/ the Clippers

    Clippers Trade


    point is get flexibility back, improve an area needed and get shorter contracts to free up space for

    [​IMG]</div>

    I would modify that...Ben Wallace has a horrible contract and gives zero offensive contribution...he's a handicapp and probably one of the main reason there team is shitty...they should've never signed him...they should've kept Chandler. Also Loul Deng would probably not play well with RJ...I'd do this.

    New Jersey Nets

    Incoming Players
    Chris Duhon
    Salary: $3,248,000 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 5.6 REB: 1.9 AST: 3.7 PER: 9.79

    Thabo Sefolosha
    Salary: $1,805,160 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 2.6 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.9 PER: 5.75

    Joe Smith
    Salary: $5,205,000 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 10.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 18.29

    Ben Gordon
    Salary: $4,881,669 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 19.5 REB: 3.9 AST: 2.9 PER: 14.98


    Outgoing Players: Vince Carter, Darrell Armstrong, Jamaal MagloireChicago Bulls

    Incoming Players
    Vince Carter
    Salary: $13,325,000 Years Remaining: 5
    PTS: 21.4 REB: 5.2 AST: 4.7 PER: 18.98

    Darrell Armstrong
    Salary: $770,610 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 2.4 REB: 1.0 AST: 1.5 PER: 6.86

    Jamaal Magloire
    Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 2.1 REB: 3.8 AST: 0.4 PER: 2.01


    Outgoing Players: Chris Duhon, Thabo Sefolosha, Joe Smith, Ben Gordon

    Give them to expiring contracts and Vince to get back a young perimeter playing SG in Ben Gordon, a backup SG which we desperately need and an additional backup PG...
     
  10. Netsfan318

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 12 2008, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 12 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if Chicago wants T-mac aka 1/2 man, 1/2 a season why not dangle Carter

    Chicago Trade

    or go talk w/ the Clippers

    Clippers Trade


    point is get flexibility back, improve an area needed and get shorter contracts to free up space for

    [​IMG]</div>

    I would modify that...Ben Wallace has a horrible contract and gives zero offensive contribution...he's a handicapp and probably one of the main reason there team is shitty...they should've never signed him...they should've kept Chandler. Also Loul Deng would probably not play well with RJ...I'd do this.

    New Jersey Nets

    Incoming Players
    Chris Duhon
    Salary: $3,248,000 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 5.6 REB: 1.9 AST: 3.7 PER: 9.79

    Thabo Sefolosha
    Salary: $1,805,160 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 2.6 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.9 PER: 5.75

    Joe Smith
    Salary: $5,205,000 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 10.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 18.29

    Ben Gordon
    Salary: $4,881,669 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 19.5 REB: 3.9 AST: 2.9 PER: 14.98


    Outgoing Players: Vince Carter, Darrell Armstrong, Jamaal MagloireChicago Bulls

    Incoming Players
    Vince Carter
    Salary: $13,325,000 Years Remaining: 5
    PTS: 21.4 REB: 5.2 AST: 4.7 PER: 18.98

    Darrell Armstrong
    Salary: $770,610 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 2.4 REB: 1.0 AST: 1.5 PER: 6.86

    Jamaal Magloire
    Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 2.1 REB: 3.8 AST: 0.4 PER: 2.01


    Outgoing Players: Chris Duhon, Thabo Sefolosha, Joe Smith, Ben Gordon

    Give them to expiring contracts and Vince to get back a young perimeter playing SG in Ben Gordon, a backup SG which we desperately need and an additional backup PG...
    </div>


    financially does it work ?..P.S. I'd want to take Noah or Thomas from them I don't know what's bad about this atleast Big Ben plays defense and is 2 yrs. shorter than the big contract going out, that's why I'd do my deal but I like yours I would love it if you X out Thabo add Tyrus Thomas [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 12 2008, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 12 2008, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 12 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if Chicago wants T-mac aka 1/2 man, 1/2 a season why not dangle Carter

    Chicago Trade

    or go talk w/ the Clippers

    Clippers Trade


    point is get flexibility back, improve an area needed and get shorter contracts to free up space for

    [​IMG]</div>

    I would modify that...Ben Wallace has a horrible contract and gives zero offensive contribution...he's a handicapp and probably one of the main reason there team is shitty...they should've never signed him...they should've kept Chandler. Also Loul Deng would probably not play well with RJ...I'd do this.

    New Jersey Nets

    Incoming Players
    Chris Duhon
    Salary: $3,248,000 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 5.6 REB: 1.9 AST: 3.7 PER: 9.79

    Thabo Sefolosha
    Salary: $1,805,160 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 2.6 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.9 PER: 5.75

    Joe Smith
    Salary: $5,205,000 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 10.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 18.29

    Ben Gordon
    Salary: $4,881,669 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 19.5 REB: 3.9 AST: 2.9 PER: 14.98


    Outgoing Players: Vince Carter, Darrell Armstrong, Jamaal MagloireChicago Bulls

    Incoming Players
    Vince Carter
    Salary: $13,325,000 Years Remaining: 5
    PTS: 21.4 REB: 5.2 AST: 4.7 PER: 18.98

    Darrell Armstrong
    Salary: $770,610 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 2.4 REB: 1.0 AST: 1.5 PER: 6.86

    Jamaal Magloire
    Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 2.1 REB: 3.8 AST: 0.4 PER: 2.01


    Outgoing Players: Chris Duhon, Thabo Sefolosha, Joe Smith, Ben Gordon

    Give them to expiring contracts and Vince to get back a young perimeter playing SG in Ben Gordon, a backup SG which we desperately need and an additional backup PG...
    </div>


    financially does it work ?..P.S. I'd want to take Noah or Thomas from them I don't know what's bad about this atleast Big Ben plays defense and is 2 yrs. shorter than the big contract going out, that's why I'd do my deal but I like yours I would love it if you X out Thabo add Tyrus Thomas [​IMG]
    </div>
    Yeah financially it works...Thomas is a crapshoot..he could get better but he might not. Also I think Chicago needs to keep him so fans don't get to freaked out by how they already gave up on a player who they passed up Brandon Roy and Lamarcus Aldridge for. Selfosha I think could turn into a quality 6th man if given minutes. I think while this trade may not be what you would expect for a superstar like Carter it would help solify chemistry and bench depth which would hopefully take us to the next level. I would want there first rounder but I think they wouldn't budge there.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Jan 12 2008, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jan 12 2008, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the Miami one.</div>
    adding Haslem makes us contenders and solves our O problems??? yeah, right
    </div>
    Dont put words in my mouth.Did u see me say ''haslem gon make us contender''?
     
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    Idk. The Nuggets trade would be okay. The Heat trade, idk. I'm not really sold on Haslem any more.

    But I'm not really sure I'd make any of the trades in this thread.
     
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    how does getting Haslem make us contenders? is he gonna start draining 3s?
    if Ammo was healthy, Id love the Cats one.
     
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    I am not trading Swat or JBizzy.
     
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    i think having sean and boone is redundant. they are both the same players, good athletes, shotblockers, rebounders with no offense. if the nets want to win this year, they should trade sean (nobody GM knows who boone is) for a legit PF. gasol?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jan 12 2008, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Jan 12 2008, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jan 12 2008, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the Miami one.</div>
    adding Haslem makes us contenders and solves our O problems??? yeah, right
    </div>
    Dont put words in my mouth.Did u see me say ''haslem gon make us contender''?
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    Because the only reason to make the trade involving Sean is to make us contenders. If it doesn't - what's the point of giving up future?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Jan 12 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jan 12 2008, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Jan 12 2008, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jan 12 2008, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the Miami one.</div>
    adding Haslem makes us contenders and solves our O problems“? yeah, right
    </div>
    Dont put words in my mouth.Did u see me say ''haslem gon make us contender''?
    </div>
    Because the only reason to make the trade involving Sean is to make us contenders. If it doesn't - what's the point of giving up future?
    </div>
    Future? He hasn't proved shits 2 me.
     
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    What a waste of time. There is a reason farmers don't sell seed corn.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Jan 12 2008, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I am not trading Swat or JBizzy.</div>
    I'm with you there...are frontcourt is young and talented....Kristic is the old man at 24, Boone 23 and Sean is the youngster at 21...thats a freaking solid frontcourt. That's definately something to build around in Brooklyn.
     

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