With UFC 80 almost upon us, it’s time to embarrass myself and try and figure out who’s gonna win the fights. I’ll even stick my neck out and predict the round and method to look even more foolish. If I can get the fighter right I’ll be content. Watch out if I get both the round and method correct, I’ll be tootin’ my own horn for weeks UFC 80: JANUARY 19, 2008 IN NEWCASTLE, ENGLAND Main Card Bouts: Joe Stevenson (#8 Lightweight in the World)* vs. BJ Penn Joe is a good fighter, but I’ve never felt certain in any of his UFC fights that he would win, just that he had a good chance. BJ on the other hand is one of the best fighters in the world when properly motivated. He’s saying all the right things and if he’s serious about creating a legacy, Joe will be a footnote in that legacy IMO. Prediction BJ Penn by anything he wants (Submission) any time he wants (1st round) Gabriel Gonzaga (#5 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Fabricio Werdum (#8 Heavyweight in the World)* Well we learned that Gonzaga is for real, but he just wasn’t for real vs a legend like Randy Couture. Werdum looked horrible vs a tentative Arlovski but was looking very good in Pride before the acquisition.. which we’re quickly learning may have not ment too much when it comes to the UFC. I foresee Gonzaga being to big and strong for Werdum to handle. Prediction Gonzaga ref stoppage 2nd round Marcus Davis (#10 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Jess Liaudin Don’t know much about Jess but he’s got a 5 fight win streak starting in 2006 and the last two were in the UFC so he’s legit. Marcus Davis has improved a ton since TUF and looks to be a step below the top contenders in the division. I’ve read that this could be fight of the night if these guys really fight to win so I got my hopes up. Prediction Davis by TKO in the 2nd Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia I love watching Lambert fight, this guy gets after it and only 1 of his last 10 fights have gone to decision. He’s also only lost once (to Rashard Evans) in those 10 fights too having recently beaten Renato Sobral last March. Gouveia doesn’t go to many decisions either so this could be a great fight even though Gouveia hasn’t fought many high caliber guys. Prediction Lambert TKO 1st round Kendall Grove vs. Jorge Rivera Kendall ‘I get high, high, high’ Grove is gonna be tested by Rivera who’s a tough veteran and a true hard working professional. He’s had some close losses to tough competition but I think his experience is what will carry him through the day here. Of course he’s also lost some fights he shoulda won so Grove winning would not be an upset either. Call this a pick’em fight Prediction Rivera by decision Preliminary Bouts: Alessio Sakara vs. James Lee Sakara must had done something right. He’s got a bad record in the UFC but he’s still getting fights. It’s hard to tell what Dana’s criteria is for keeping a fighter but in this instance it looks like Sakara is here to be a tune up and a way to introduce James Lee to UFC fans who didn’t follow Pride or KOTC UK as Lee is 13-2 and has only been out of the 1st round once in his 15 fight career. Maybe this will end up tacked on to the end of the PPV if there is time Prediction Lee by Submission 1st round (of course) Sam Stout vs. Per Eklund Ahh some Canadian Content. Stout’s a good fighter but he’s had mixed success with the UFC. Is he a big fish in a small pond or is he finally ready to step up to the big boys and stick with the UFC? Yup, I know nothing about Eklund but he’s got a strong record and has Shooto and Bodog experience so he’s been in the middle leagues at least. I’ma be a homer for this one though. Prediction Sam ‘Hand of Stone’ Stout 2nd round TKO Paul Kelly vs. Paul Taylor Uhh yeah, Kelly is 6-0 and fights outta Bispings fight club which is in England like this PPV is. Guess who the favorite will be… The other Paul is from the UK too and has 2 fights in the UFC so he should be prepaired for ‘The UFC experience’ as Goldie and Joe Rogan will mention all the time. Tough call since I know zip about both, but working with Bisping has to be an advantage. Prediction Paul ….. see this way I win 100% of the time .. okay Paul Kelly TKO 2nd round Colin Robinson vs. Antoni Hardonk Let’s see, let’s see Robinson has most of his wins and losses via TKO or KO. Hardonk has Zero ground game but is from Holland so he can strike. Robinson is Irish so he’s tough as nails and will probably piss drunk before, during and after the fight… not that there’s anything wrong with that. (flips coin) Prediction Gimme Robinson in a brawling upset 1st round TKO let's see what y'all got. here's a quick copy and paste list for the uninitiated Main Card Bouts: -Joe Stevenson (#8 Lightweight in the World)* vs. BJ Penn -Gabriel Gonzaga (#5 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Fabricio Werdum (#8 Heavyweight in the World)* -Marcus Davis (#10 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Jess Liaudin -Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia -Kendall Grove vs. Jorge Rivera Preliminary Bouts: -Alessio Sakara vs. James Lee -Sam Stout vs. Per Eklund -Paul Kelly vs. Paul Taylor -Colin Robinson vs. Antoni Hardonk
Im not going to embarrass myself, and pick the round/way they are going to win. Plus I dont really know any fighters I just watch them tho. Joe Stevenson vs. BJ Penn- Penn Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Fabricio Werdum- Werdum Marcus Davis vs. Jess Liaudin- Davis Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia- Lambert Kendall Grove vs. Jorge Rivera- Grove
Grove's gonna win, he has a lot of stamina, trains with Tito, and is like 6'6. Rivera is best known for .... being on the ultimate fighter and losing to Leben. Rivera has beaten Lutter and Loiseau 4 and 5 years ago respectively. Grove has submission skills, and has a reach advantage while standing.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 17 2008, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Grove's gonna win, he has a lot of stamina, trains with Tito, and is like 6'6. Rivera is best known for .... being on the ultimate fighter and losing to Leben. Rivera has beaten Lutter and Loiseau 4 and 5 years ago respectively. Grove has submission skills, and has a reach advantage while standing.</div> true, but he won't be high for this fight and that may have an affect on him
Here's MMAweekly's fight by fight analysis; <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT: B.J. PENN VS. JOE STEVENSON Former UFC welterweight champion B.J. Penn takes on The Ultimate Fighter season two winner Joe Stevenson for the vacant UFC lightweight championship. Penn has an 11-4-1 record and trains out of B.J. Penn MMA with Renato “Charuto” Verissimo. Stevenson has a 28-7 record and trains out of Cobra Kai with Marc Laimon. Penn comes off a submission victory over Jens Pulver at The Ultimate Fighter 5 Finale, while Stevenson won a decision over Kurt Pellegrino at UFC 74. These two are meeting for the vacant UFC lightweight title, which was stripped from former champion Sean Sherk after he tested positive for performance enhancing drugs after his fight with Hermes Franca at UFC 73. Penn is one of the most talented fighters to ever step into the Octagon, but that hasn’t always translated into victory as a lack of focus during training has hindered him from reaching his full potential. It now seems that he is taking his career seriously and looks to be focused during training in preparation for this fight. Stevenson has gone 4-0 since moving down to lightweight, finishing three of his opponents within the distance and looking impressive in his last fight against Kurt Pellegrino. Stevenson will want to keep the fight on the feet, seeing that he has the more polished striking of the two fighters. Although he is primarily a ground fighter, he doesn’t want go to the ground with Penn, being that he is one of more gifted ground fighters in the world. Both seem to be in excellent shape leading up to the fight, so neither should have any problems with conditioning. Look for Stevenson to set the pace of the fight with crisp striking, while Penn will look to take the fight to the ground. It’s going to be a struggle for Penn to get it on the ground, but he will eventually do it and that’s where the fight will come to end. Penn will use his superior technique and catch Stevenson midway through the fight with a submission after tiring him out on the ground. Prediction: B.J. Penn by submission in the third round. HEAVYWEIGHT BOUT: GABRIEL GONZAGA VS. FABRICIO WERDUM In a rematch of a fight that happened five years ago, Team Link heavyweight Gabriel Gonzaga faces off with Pride veteran Fabricio Werdum. Gonzaga has an 8-2 record and trains out of Team Link with Paulo Filho. Werdum has a 9-3 record and trains out of Spain. Gonzaga comes off a stoppage loss to Randy Couture at UFC 74, while Werdum dropped a decision to former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski at UFC 70. In their first meeting, Werdum defeated an inexperienced Gonzaga, but things have changed since they last met. Gonzaga has become one of the better heavyweights in the world, while it seems that Werdum has kind of stalled out. Werdum is a very talented heavyweight fighter, but it seems he is no longer improving as a fighter. Even though all three of his losses have come by decision against top competition, they have used the same blueprint in defeating him by outstriking him and keeping it off the ground. Gonzaga has the better stand-up of the two fighters and that’s surprising being that Werdum used to train with Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic. On the ground, both fighters are former Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu world champions, so it’s evenly matched there. The deciding factor on the fight is whether or not Werdum has improved his takedowns because if he can’t take the fight to the ground, he isn’t going to have a good night. Look for Gonzaga to control the fight with crisp and hard striking, while defending all of Werdum’s attempts to get the fight to the ground en route to a decision victory. Prediction: Gabriel Gonzaga by decision. WELTERWEIGHT BOUT: MARCUS DAVIS VS. JESS LIAUDIN Former Golden Gloves boxing champion Marcus Davis takes on French submission specialist Jess Liaudin. Davis has a 13-3 record and trains out of Team Gurgel with Jorge Gurgel. Liaudin has 12-8 record and trains out of Team Quest with Heath Sims. Davis comes off a submission victory over Paul Taylor at UFC 75, while Liaudin stopped Anthony Torres with strikes at the same show. Davis has really improved as a complete MMA fighter since his time on The Ultimate Fighter 2. Liaudin battled with inconsistency early in his career, but as of late has been solid, putting together some impressive victories. Besides having excellent striking, Davis has added a competent ground game and has become a versatile fighter. Liaudin is now taking his career seriously and has begun to train at Team Quest to improve himself as a fighter. This should be a fun fight. Look for Davis to control the fight with striking and when they hit the ground both guys will be trading positions back and forth. Liaudin will be improved, but Davis should be able to end the fight with strikes within the distance. Prediction: Marcus Davis by TKO in the third round. LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT BOUT: JASON LAMBERT VS. WILSON GOUVEIA Californian light heavyweight Jason Lambert takes on American Top Team fighter Wilson Gouveia. Lambert has a 23-6 record and trains out of the North County Fight Club with Eddie Sanchez. Gouveia has a 9-4 record and trains out of American Top Team with Alessio Sakara. Lambert comes off a stoppage victory over Renato Sobral at UFC 68, while Gouveia submitted wrestler Carmelo Marrero at UFC 71. These two were originally scheduled to meet at UFC 76, but the fight was scrapped after Gouveia suffered a broken nose during training. Now they face off in an important fight. This is an even match-up as both fighters have shown flashes of brilliance in the Octagon. Gouveia is a better ground fighter, but Lambert has the edge in the wrestling department and that can play a big factor in the fight. Gouveia is a more technical striker, while Lambert has more power in his hands. Lambert will want to keep the fight on the feet and try to finish off Gouveia off with strikes, while Gouveia wants it on the ground in order to lock on a submission. I see Lambert controlling the fight early on with power shots, while Gouveia will work the low kicks in order to weaken Lambert for a takedown. Gouveia will finally get it to the ground midway through the fight and will outwork Lambert en route to a decision. Prediction: Wilson Gouveia by decision. MIDDLEWEIGHT BOUT: KENDALL GROVE VS. JORGE RIVERA Ultimate Fighter 3 winner Kendall Grove faces off with seasoned striker Jorge Rivera. Grove has an 8-4 record and trains out of Cobra Kai with Joe Stevenson. Rivera has a 14-6 record and trains out of Team Elite in Massachusetts. Grove comes off a stoppage loss to Patrick Cote at UFC 74, while Terry Martin stopped Rivera with strikes at UFC 71. Grove will look to get back on track after losing for the first time in the UFC by beating a respected veteran in Rivera. Rivera needs to win this fight if he wants to remain in the UFC, seeing that two losses in a row could mean his exit. Grove needs to use his significant reach advantage over Rivera on the feet and stay away from clinching, where Rivera will want to use his dirty boxing to score points. Rivera has a slight advantage on the feet, but it won’t matter if he can’t get inside to utilize his strikes. On the ground, Grove has the advantage and that’s what is going to make the big difference in the fight. Grove will waste no time and get it on the ground quickly, locking on a submission to get back on the winning track. Prediction: Kendall Grove by submission in the first round. LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT BOUT: ALESSIO SAKARA VS. JAMES LEE Italian striker Alessio Sakara takes on King of the Cage light heavyweight champion James Lee. Sakara has an 11-6 record and trains out of American Top Team with Jorge Santiago. James Lee has a 13-2 record and trains out Team MASH in Michigan. Sakara comes off a stoppage loss to Houston Alexander at UFC 75, while Lee submitted Danny Bessant at King of the Cage: Bad Boys. This will be Lee’s UFC debut after fighting the majority of his career in King of the Cage and making a lone appearance in Pride. Sakara has lost three out of his last four fights in the UFC and will be making a drop to middleweight after this bout. Sakara has the advantage on the feet with crisp boxing, while Lee seems to have the edge on the ground, but Sakara isn’t a slouch on the ground either. Sakara will look to keep the fight on the feet and finish off Lee with strikes, while Lee wants in on the ground. Sakara will use his experience in the Octagon and keep the fight on the feet, ending the fight with strikes and giving Lee his first loss in several years. Prediction: Alessio Sakara by TKO in the first round. LIGHTWEIGHT BOUT: SAM STOUT VS. PER EKLUND TKO lightweight champion Sam Stout returns to the Octagon as he takes on Swedish fighter Per Eklund. Stout has a 12-3-1 record and trains out of Team Tompkins with Mark Hominick. Eklund has a 12-2 record and trains out of Hilti NHB in Sweden. Stout comes off a stoppage victory over Martin Grandmont at TKO 30, while Eklund won a decision over Rafael Dias at Bodog Fight: Vancouver. This could end up being one of the better fights of the night seeing that both fighters like to push the pace. Stout has the Octagon experience and is the better striker of the two, while Eklund has the edge on the ground. Stout will look to finish the fight on the feet and stay off the ground where he is at a disadvantage. Eklund needs to get the fight on the ground and control Stout throughout in order to come away with a victory. Stout will basically sprawl and brawl for the entire fight and batter Eklund en route to a decision. Prediction: Sam Stout by decision. WELTERWEIGHT BOUT: PAUL TAYLOR VS. PAUL KELLY British slugger Paul Taylor faces off with the Octagon debuting striker Paul Kelly. Taylor has an 8-2-1 record and trains out of England. Kelly has a 6-0 record and trains out of the Wolfslair Academy with Michael Bisping. Taylor comes off a submission loss to Marcus Davis at UFC 75, while Kelly stopped Jordan James with strikes at Cage Gladiators 4. This fight is going to be an absolute slugfest between two exciting fighters. Taylor fought a valiant fight against Davis, dropping him with strikes and that’s impressive seeing that Davis is primarily a striker. Kelly seems to be primarily a brawler and this will be his first big test. This fight won’t go to the ground, as both fighters will look for the knockout. Taylor will use his Octagon experience and crisper striking to frustrate an inexperienced Kelly, who will leave himself open for Taylor to land the big knockout blow. Prediction: Paul Taylor by KO in the first round. HEAVYWEIGHT BOUT: ANTONI HARDONK VS. COLIN ROBINSON Dutch kickboxer Antoni Hardonk takes on Irish brawler Colin Robinson. Hardonk has a 5-4 record and trains out Vos Gym with Ernesto Hoost. Robinson has a 9-3 record and trains out of Northern Ireland. Hardonk comes off a submission loss to Frank Mir at UFC 74, while Robinson knocked out Colin Sexton at Goshin Ryu 22. This is another fight that will end up being a total slugfest and won’t last very long. Hardonk is a more technical striker, while Robinson is a straight brawler. This fight won’t get to the ground; Robinson will come in and throw bombs looking to finish the fight quickly. That will play into Hardonk’s strategy, as he will just pick Robinson apart with crisp technical striking, ending the fight late in the first round. Prediction: Antoni Hardonk by KO in the first round.</div> well either MMAweekly is going to look like idiots compaired to my perdictions or vice versa.. see if they can get my picks vs MMA weekly's picks as an official bet in the sports book
Joe Stevenson vs. BJ Penn Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Fabricio Werdum Marcus Davis vs. Jess Liaudin Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia Kendall Grove vs. Jorge Rivera Alessio Sakara vs. James Lee Sam Stout vs. Per Eklund Paul Kelly vs. Paul Taylor Colin Robinson vs. Antoni Hardonk
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jan 18 2008, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow gutsy call with taking Joe speeds. I'm starting to regret my upset pick of Rivera....</div> I can see Joe taking BJ down and pressing him for the whole fight. As for Rivera, the guy got smashed so hard in his last fight that I think he will come out tentative, and Grove will dump him and submit him.
I can see BJ subbing him on the ground. PPl forget how great he is on the ground and how damn hard he is to take down. I mean if GSP had diffculty doing it, everyone else is ska-rewed IMO. yeah I just thought Grove hasn't fought tough competition and Rivera is a tough sob and experienced.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ed the Decider @ Jan 17 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Im not going to embarrass myself, and pick the round/way they are going to win. Plus I dont really know any fighters I just watch them tho. Joe Stevenson vs. BJ Penn- Penn Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Fabricio Werdum- Werdum Marcus Davis vs. Jess Liaudin- Davis Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia- Lambert Kendall Grove vs. Jorge Rivera- Grove</div> Jorge Rivera d. Kendall Grove Guess that Wrong Wilson Gouveia d. Jason Lambert Again, WRONG Marcus Davis d. Jess Liaudin We gots us a winner Fabricio Werdum d. Gabriel Gonzaga Another Winner BJ Penn d. Joe Stevenson Winner Winner, Chicken dinner. 3-2, not bad for just guessing.
wow, I got to 'acquire' the fights, put them to DVD AND watch them today.. all with helping out with my 15 week old son.. who thankfully has started to nap during the day oh and him waking up at 5:50 am this morning helped me to get an early start on the DL sooo here's how I did Main Card Bouts: -Joe Stevenson (#8 Lightweight in the World)* vs. BJ Penn <span style="color:#FF0000">Win</span>, easiest pick of the night. Joe is a tough S.O.B. BJ Penn is just that great. -Gabriel Gonzaga (#5 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Fabricio Werdum (#8 Heavyweight in the World)* <span style="color:#4B0082">Loss</span> Fabricio looked like the Pride fighter I'm used to seeing. Gonzaga is such a great story, I hope he starts winning soon -Marcus Davis (#10 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Jess Liaudin <span style="color:#FF0000">Win</span>, no surprise here what a great shot -Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia <span style="color:#4B0082">Loss</span>, another out of nowhere shot, Gouveia was being dominated too. -Kendall Grove vs. Jorge Rivera <span style="color:#FF0000">Win</span>, my upset special comes through!! I though Grove hadn't faced great competition and it showed vs a tough vet. Preliminary Bouts: -Alessio Sakara vs. James Lee <span style="color:#4B0082">Loss </span> wow Sakara has improved vastly.. Lee's needs to work on his stand up in a huge bad way. -Sam Stout vs. Per Eklund <span style="color:#FF0000">win </span>woo hoo! what to go Canadian boy and the only fight now shown -Paul Kelly vs. Paul Taylor <span style="color:#FF0000">Win</span> luck of the draw but dang what a fight!! -Colin Robinson vs. Antoni Hardonk <span style="color:#4B0082">Loss</span> no one told me Robinson was 39!!! hmm not bad overall 5-4 with Gonzaga being the surprise loss for me. Lambert had that one and got reckless. ah well was a pretty damn entertaining fight card and we saw 8 of 9 fights! I love when that happens. mma weekly goes 6-3.. I can live with that.
Yea, good call on Grove. I didn't think Rivera had it in him, he just went aggressive the entire fight. I'm surprized at Gonzaga, the guy should have ground and pounded Werdum more. As soon as Werdum got that first knee in the 2nd round it was over. That just dazed him. Penn, I'm glad he won. I still think Stevenson is a tough fighter, and I think he actually had a decent chance of beating Penn. Stevenson's ground and pound is better than Penn's, and if he got on top (big if) then Penn would have a messy looking face.
