Anyone see Perovic debut + seldom played rookies play yesterday?

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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Perovic looks like a nice project. He got some impressive rebounds, some putbacks, and even made some defensive plays. He looked pretty nimble for a guy 7'2. He seemed like a pretty smart player because he was at the right spot at the right time. He didn't commit the fouls you'd expect a rookie would do when it came to D.

    It was fun to see the rooks get to play since the coaching staff botched up the game roster which left the team shorthanded without Barnes. POB had an impressive midrange hookshot and Brandan Wright looked like a pure shooter from midrange. I wish Belinelli could have scored though.

    CJ Watson looked pretty darn good. He plays unselfishly and he hit a buzzer beater on the quick release. Pretty clutch.

    I wonder which one of these rooks can play the most consistent so they can get bumped up on the rotation. There's no way we should be playing so much of Pietrus when we already have Barnes who pretty much does Pietrus' job and more.
     
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    That was a nice surprise last night. It was pretty exciting see those guys play well. I just hope (1) there are more occasions and (2) Nellie trusts them.

    Perovic looked nimble and his anticipation on Bogut's dunk was impressive. His putbacks were not beauties but simply hustle points. Watson is better than many of the backup PGs I've see the W's pickup off the scrap heap over the past 15 years (hello Vonteego? Mookie? Hudson?).

    Most importantly, got needed rest for the regulars on the back end of a back to back.
     
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    Nellie's dumb. He really should play these guys more.
     
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    Perovic look good in this game but I have a feeling that he might only play depending on the matchup. He did impressed me more with the fact that he didn't get any fouls and that lenght did cause problems to the bucks so he might a hidden gem. Watson look good but he might be gone soon if the Warriors sign Gary Payton. I hope the Glove has enough in the tank to help the Warriors down the strech run and in the playoffs
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Don Nelson's game is pretty tired sometimes (in the halfcourt). Play small, isolate, drive and kick, shoot threes or dive cut. If only the Warriors were smarter (as in less risky at times), were better shooters, and had more inside options, we'd be competing better than New Orleans and Portland. I like the Warriors D, but their inability to defend bigger players and defend the three point line has me bothered. Plus, you can't be consistent at scoring when there's no ball movement and guys just don't shoot very well night in and night out. It's like when we lose, we tend to lose badly. Probably the only reason the Minny game wasn't a blow out was because the Twolves aren't that good. The Warriors climbed back in it, but they didn't finish.

    Here is to hoping that Perovic or POB or Wright or one of those guys gets some more action. We need more size and Don Nelson is notorious for going smaller and smaller until he has 4 ants on the floor, plus a tic-tac (the center).

    If we get a big guy in there that can force double teams, it's just as good as Baron getting on that block. Plus, the bigger guy has the advantage of seeing over the top of defenses while playing the high post. I know it's not the way we play, but there has to be some variety in what the players decide to do. We just have too many times where guys stand around and we don't have good finishers inside or we don't find the good shots on the floor. It would just be great if we could get another inside player or at least get Biedrins more confident of his offense. I just don't like the way the Warriors develop their bigs... We got so much potential and we're just throwing it away.

    But that's the tradeoff... win now, build something, tear it down a little next year, and rebuild on top of a recent winning culture. I guess that's what we got to do. The problem before making the 8th seed last year, was we hadn't won anything in over a decade.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jan 23 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The problem before making the 8th seed last year, was we hadn't won anything in over a decade.</div>
    And we're only hanging onto the #8 slot by .5 game right now, in an improved West. Those kinds of losses (Minnesota) are simply unacceptable. No matter how well the Warriors are playing it seems you can count on one of those "let up" games after a short win streak. They let Indy off the hook too. The margin for error is too thin this year, and those losses are going to come back to bite them. The small mistakes and unexplainable dips in performance are magnified, for example Baron shooting 3-8 from the freethrow line in a one-point loss to Minnesota, or SJax jacking up 8 three-pointers in Indiana and only hitting one, and committing 4 turnovers. The Warriors are improved this year, but I don't see how they can take the next step up to become a solid playoff team without more consistency and the will to win every single game, from the opening tip to the buzzer.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HiRez @ Jan 23 2008, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jan 23 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The problem before making the 8th seed last year, was we hadn't won anything in over a decade.</div>
    And we're only hanging onto the #8 slot by .5 game right now, in an improved West.
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    Very True, but one loss threw everyone into a panic, the Warriors pulled off some wins that they should've lost as well. You can quote me on it, 10 games from now, the warriors will be sitting in the 6th spot.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CohanHater @ Jan 24 2008, 01:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>By the way, Jefferson did it again to the Suns today
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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=280123016</div>

    Whew! It was pretty embarrassing that we lost to the Wolves. But we lost by 1 point whereas the Suns lost by 10. Maybe it shouldn't come as a surprise for some when the bigger team beats a smaller team. After all, size has the advantage of force feeding it inside, getting all the rebounds, and shooting over smaller defenders.

    Besides Jefferson taking most of the credit, how about Marko Jaric? That's his second game where he gets almost triple double type numbers. I knew not waiving him in my fantasy lineup would pay off some weeks.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HiRez @ Jan 23 2008, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jan 23 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The problem before making the 8th seed last year, was we hadn't won anything in over a decade.</div>
    And we're only hanging onto the #8 slot by .5 game right now, in an improved West. Those kinds of losses (Minnesota) are simply unacceptable. No matter how well the Warriors are playing it seems you can count on one of those "let up" games after a short win streak. They let Indy off the hook too. The margin for error is too thin this year, and those losses are going to come back to bite them. The small mistakes and unexplainable dips in performance are magnified, for example Baron shooting 3-8 from the freethrow line in a one-point loss to Minnesota, or SJax jacking up 8 three-pointers in Indiana and only hitting one, and committing 4 turnovers. The Warriors are improved this year, but I don't see how they can take the next step up to become a solid playoff team without more consistency and the will to win every single game, from the opening tip to the buzzer.
    </div>

    Yeah, and the thing that sucks is that as a smaller team, we have to work a lot harder to create good shots in a halfcourt setting because we don't have a paint option to move the ball inside and out. We might say because we're forced into a halfcourt setting, we're not a good team period. We don't do well at the foul line consistently, we don't shoot consistently well from outside, and we have a hard time rebounding. At some point we have to find trades or develop our talent enough to get more balanced. If we reach the playoffs, I feel like it'll be the same thing again with the Jazz. The better team that has more weapons than us will surely win unless their defense more than compensates for their lack of offense. (Like the old saying goes offense wins games, defense wins championships).

    I wouldn't mind if we didn't have a real inside scorer, but to play D and rebound undersized is tough business. We have to harp on our free throw shooting consistency because if we ever grind it out on D, you have to shoot those going the other way when the other team's D wakes up and begins overplaying and then intentionally fouling. I suppose Mullin is already on top of this. He's drafted well, but I'm sure he's thinking that his old friend will only take this team so far with his ridiculously small lineups.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jan 24 2008, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HiRez @ Jan 23 2008, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jan 23 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The problem before making the 8th seed last year, was we hadn't won anything in over a decade.</div>
    And we're only hanging onto the #8 slot by .5 game right now, in an improved West. Those kinds of losses (Minnesota) are simply unacceptable. No matter how well the Warriors are playing it seems you can count on one of those "let up" games after a short win streak. They let Indy off the hook too. The margin for error is too thin this year, and those losses are going to come back to bite them. The small mistakes and unexplainable dips in performance are magnified, for example Baron shooting 3-8 from the freethrow line in a one-point loss to Minnesota, or SJax jacking up 8 three-pointers in Indiana and only hitting one, and committing 4 turnovers. The Warriors are improved this year, but I don't see how they can take the next step up to become a solid playoff team without more consistency and the will to win every single game, from the opening tip to the buzzer.
    </div>

    Yeah, and the thing that sucks is that as a smaller team, we have to work a lot harder to create good shots in a halfcourt setting because we don't have a paint option to move the ball inside and out. We might say because we're forced into a halfcourt setting, we're not a good team period. We don't do well at the foul line consistently, we don't shoot consistently well from outside, and we have a hard time rebounding. At some point we have to find trades or develop our talent enough to get more balanced. If we reach the playoffs, I feel like it'll be the same thing again with the Jazz. The better team that has more weapons than us will surely win unless their defense more than compensates for their lack of offense. (Like the old saying goes offense wins games, defense wins championships).

    I wouldn't mind if we didn't have a real inside scorer, but to play D and rebound undersized is tough business. We have to harp on our free throw shooting consistency because if we ever grind it out on D, you have to shoot those going the other way when the other team's D wakes up and begins overplaying and then intentionally fouling. I suppose Mullin is already on top of this. He's drafted well, but I'm sure he's thinking that his old friend will only take this team so far with his ridiculously small lineups.
    </div>

    No need to overthink things, look at the Warriors winning percentage taking away the first 7 games. The bottom line is, inside defender or not, assuming the Warriors stay healthy (which is a big if in the NBA), this team will not hang around the 8th seed.
     

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