I got a feeling inside that if we do make a change, it's going to be getting rid of Lawrence Frank. And that's a shame. Lawrence Frank is one of the most brilliant minds in basketball. He's an x's and o's type of guy that's studied under the best and is always trying to improve. I don't have to say all this, most knowledgable Net fans know. And most of those who dissent either have an agenda they are trying to push or are misguided. Unfortunately, he has to coach a group of players that don't seem to possess a sense of panic or desire to do whatever it takes to turn this lost ship around. Most of these guys are veterans. Kidd, Carter, Jefferson, all have been in the league a long time, but yet they say the same things over and over again in the media, usually something like this, "Well we can't come out like that, we have to come out stronger." or "We have to find ways to win basketball games, simple as that." He has to deal with an owner that wants to build a massive real estate project and puts basketball second, and an executive who might not trade Kidd or Carter but will instead fire someone that shouldn't be fired because he has to make a change. Put it down, you fire Lawrence Frank, and he goes to a team with good ownership and players that want to win, and he will do a great job. He will come back to make us look ridiclious for firing him.
Frank impressed me by switching up the offense that really brought the best out in Jefferson, I won't deny that. However, what's the point in being a good white-board coach if you can't apply your teachings? I've got a feeling that no matter who we trade: Kidd, Carter, Jefferson, etc, will make us regret getting rid of them, so I'd rather keep these guys and get a coach who get light a fire under their butt and get consistent play out of them. Team defense is bad, offense is pretty poor, and the issues that plague one person are found in just about everybody.
tonight during the game MJ said something like this referring to management "I don't care what you do, but if the team struggles like that, you better do something" Well, we're facing a dilemma: either trade the whole team or change the coach. History shows the latter is easier and more practical.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jan 23 2008, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Frank impressed me by switching up the offense that really brought the best out in Jefferson, I won't deny that. However, what's the point in being a good white-board coach if you can't apply your teachings? I've got a feeling that no matter who we trade: Kidd, Carter, Jefferson, etc, will make us regret getting rid of them, so I'd rather keep these guys and get a coach who get light a fire under their butt and get consistent play out of them. Team defense is bad, offense is pretty poor, and the issues that plague one person are found in just about everybody.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'>tonight during the game MJ said something like this referring to management "I don't care what you do, but if the team struggles like that, you better do something" Well, we're facing a dilemma: either trade the whole team or change the coach. History shows the latter is easier and more practical.</div> Yeah and who is going to do that. Brian Hill? One of our assistants? Please. There's a reason why people have been saying for years that Vince Carter can't lead his team to a championship. Why they've been saying the big three should be broken up in recent months and last year. This is a players league. You fire Frank and we're not going to go on any "magical" run. We'll still be sub .500 and maybe in the lottery.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jan 23 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jan 23 2008, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Frank impressed me by switching up the offense that really brought the best out in Jefferson, I won't deny that. However, what's the point in being a good white-board coach if you can't apply your teachings? I've got a feeling that no matter who we trade: Kidd, Carter, Jefferson, etc, will make us regret getting rid of them, so I'd rather keep these guys and get a coach who get light a fire under their butt and get consistent play out of them. Team defense is bad, offense is pretty poor, and the issues that plague one person are found in just about everybody.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'>tonight during the game MJ said something like this referring to management "I don't care what you do, but if the team struggles like that, you better do something" Well, we're facing a dilemma: either trade the whole team or change the coach. History shows the latter is easier and more practical.</div> Yeah and who is going to do that. Brian Hill? One of our assistants? Please. There's a reason why people have been saying for years that Vince Carter can't lead his team to a championship. Why they've been saying the big three should be broken up in recent months and last year. You fire Frank and we're not going to go on any "magical" run. We'll still be sub .500 and maybe in the lottery. </div> Nope not Brian Hill, I'd bring in someone else in Thorn knows A LOT of people so I'm sure finding a coach would not be an issue but it is evident that this team needs something drastic to happen, MJ basically called them quitters , just show up in white uniforms forget the flags
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jan 23 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah and who is going to do that. Brian Hill? One of our assistants? Please.</div> I don't care who. Frank lost this team and must resign. Plus, can it be any worse than tonight with other coach? I doubt it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jan 23 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah and who is going to do that. Brian Hill? One of our assistants? Please. There's a reason why people have been saying for years that Vince Carter can't lead his team to a championship. Why they've been saying the big three should be broken up in recent months and last year. You fire Frank and we're not going to go on any "magical" run. We'll still be sub .500 and maybe in the lottery.</div> I can't answer that question because I'm not as familiar with our assistants. Luckily, its not my decision to pick a successor. What I can say, which also address your point that we're on the edge of being a lottery team, is that there's enough season left to get our act together and be competative by the playoffs. We don't need a magical run. We don't need to run off 14 in a row since we're in the East and a month removed from the half-way point of the season. What we can do is change the culture of Nets basketball by bringing out the best that this team can offer, make the playoffs, and then at that point we're a much different team than we are now. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JAMES.SLIMM)</div><div class='quotemain'>just show up in white uniforms forget the flags</div> haha nice play on words.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JAMES.SLIMM @ Jan 23 2008, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jan 23 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jan 23 2008, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Frank impressed me by switching up the offense that really brought the best out in Jefferson, I won't deny that. However, what's the point in being a good white-board coach if you can't apply your teachings? I've got a feeling that no matter who we trade: Kidd, Carter, Jefferson, etc, will make us regret getting rid of them, so I'd rather keep these guys and get a coach who get light a fire under their butt and get consistent play out of them. Team defense is bad, offense is pretty poor, and the issues that plague one person are found in just about everybody.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'>tonight during the game MJ said something like this referring to management "I don't care what you do, but if the team struggles like that, you better do something" Well, we're facing a dilemma: either trade the whole team or change the coach. History shows the latter is easier and more practical.</div> Yeah and who is going to do that. Brian Hill? One of our assistants? Please. There's a reason why people have been saying for years that Vince Carter can't lead his team to a championship. Why they've been saying the big three should be broken up in recent months and last year. You fire Frank and we're not going to go on any "magical" run. We'll still be sub .500 and maybe in the lottery. </div> Nope not Brian Hill, I'd bring in someone else in Thorn knows A LOT of people so I'm sure finding a coach would not be an issue but it is evident that this team needs something drastic to happen, MJ basically called them quitters , just show up in white uniforms forget the flags </div> Thorn supposedly knew A LOT of people when it was time to find a GM and the best he could come up with was Kiki Vandeweghe. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I don't care who. Frank lost this team and must resign. Plus, can it be any worse than tonight with other coach? I doubt it.</div> How's this going to happen? What is the other coach going to do that Frank couldn't or didn't do?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jan 23 2008, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jan 23 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah and who is going to do that. Brian Hill? One of our assistants? Please. There's a reason why people have been saying for years that Vince Carter can't lead his team to a championship. Why they've been saying the big three should be broken up in recent months and last year. You fire Frank and we're not going to go on any "magical" run. We'll still be sub .500 and maybe in the lottery.</div> I can't answer that question because I'm not as familiar with our assistants. Luckily, its not my decision to pick a successor. What I can say, which also address your point that we're on the edge of being a lottery team, is that there's enough season left to get our act together and be competative by the playoffs. We don't need a magical run. We don't need to run off 14 in a row since we're in the East and a month removed from the half-way point of the season. What we can do is change the culture of Nets basketball by bringing out the best that this team can offer, make the playoffs, and then at that point we're a much different team than we are now. </div> Same story as last year, and the year before, and the year before that. And what happened in the playoffs those years? And what did we do to change the culture of Nets basketball?
Boki is talking about pride in the post game, this team has no pride, It's hard for me to say this but they look like they've quit, if Thorn is sitting there saying to himself that they'll turn it around he's crazy, MJ said it something drastic needs to happen and yeah Byron Scott is laughing his ass off in NO
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jan 23 2008, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How's this going to happen? What is the other coach going to do that Frank couldn't or didn't do?</div> start winning?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Jan 23 2008, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jan 23 2008, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How's this going to happen? What is the other coach going to do that Frank couldn't or didn't do?</div> start winning? </div> By waving a magic wand and wishing upon a star?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jan 23 2008, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And what did we do to change the culture of Nets basketball?</div> Nothing, which is why I'm advocating for getting rid of Frank
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JAMES.SLIMM @ Jan 23 2008, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Boki is talking about pride in the post game, this team has no pride, It's hard for me to say this but they look like they've quit, if Thorn is sitting there saying to himself that they'll turn it around he's crazy, MJ said it something drastic needs to happen and yeah Byron Scott is laughing his ass off in NO</div> Boki needs to make his wide open jumpers and play some damn D before he questions anyone's pride. Anyway I think it's time to bring in ....
Yeah it makes sense to bring in the coach that ditched us during the season right before the playoffs.
get Bill Laimbeer in here!! he is dying to coach the nba and he is not gonna take no shit! Bring him and Mahorn! How about mario elie? I would love to see Mark Jackson on the sidelines but i dont see it happening. We need a coach on this team that has played the game and can inspire these fools to actually give it 100% on the court. They have totally quit on Frank. They need to get rid of the whole coaching staff though. They are terrible. Byron Scott being fired was one of the worst moves this team could have made. Thats Kidds fault!
