if somehow we could get noah i would love this deal, he plays with energy and can rebound something both the bigs off the bench lack plus he isn't shy of calling out the big name players on the team ex: ben wallace
the only reason i see bulls interested is to free up cash for Deng and Gordon.... with that said why do they even want MWill? he's still on his rookie contract, so hes not getting paid much;but he has yet to prove anything. Which makes me think they only want him to backup Hinrich after they let Duhon walk this summer.. so i see either of these two working...as this trade is difficult to do with the salaries matching and all http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...p;te=&cash= With DA getting a buyout (or waived) and going back to NJ. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...p;te=&cash= the trade that i hope happens. This will free up alot of money for the Bulls, Nets will be over the luxury tax...and not sure if they can resign Krstic? (wasnt to sure if they could sign Krstic and Boki anyways so its a good move to get a shooter like Nocioni. however with this trade i feel that we would have to add a second rounder or two.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheKidHypno @ Jan 23 2008, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if somehow we could get noah i would love this deal, he plays with energy and can rebound something both the bigs off the bench lack plus he isn't shy of calling out the big name players on the team ex: ben wallace</div> I don't believe this deal is going down because they could do a lot better. But if it does, Noah would not be involved.
I love Marcus's potential but Noc is no Joke. He plays with more heart than our entire starting 5. I mean the guy would run though a brick wall if the coach ordered him to. Noc is the man we need.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (downunderwonder @ Jan 23 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I love Marcus's potential but Noc is no Joke. He plays with more heart than our entire starting 5. I mean the guy would run though a brick wall if the coach ordered him to. Noc is the man we need.</div> not at Marcus William's expense, this kid when he becomes the franchise PG of the Bulls alot of people will be pissed off
Realize that Noc is a 3/4 tweener. He'll start for you at PF and give you a fine complement to the big 3. Playing mostly PF for the Bulls the past few seasons, he's averaged 6.1 rebounds/game in 27 minutes. At 36 minutes/game, he'd grab around 8. Not bad for most PFs in the league.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jan 23 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This would be a panicky deal on the Bulls part. Nocioni is being badly underrated in this thread.</div> It's not a matter of underrating Nocioni, it's just a redundant clog in the wheel. Another good/above-average rebounding swing man (or player other than a 4/5) is not what most want to see swapped for younger talent. -Petey
What about this trade instead? Antoine Wright Bostjan Nachbar Jamaal Magloire Jason Collins for Rashad McCants Antoine Walker Michael Doleac Chris Richard Is it worth taking on Antoine Walkers contract to get McCants? Kidd/M.Williams/Armstrong Carter/McCants Jefferson/Walker Boone/S.Williams/Allen Krstic/Doleac/Richard
so I'm listening to the buzz in Chicago radio, alot of fans want Vince Carter IDK why but they do, they want Carter and Williams, first off w/ VC it doesn't matter to me but if you can get TT, Thabo and Nocioni I'd rethink it but dammit I don't want to trade Marcus or Josh or Sean
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Jan 23 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They want Carter? WTF</div> like 6 or 7 callers said I wouldn't trade Nocioni w/o atleast getting Vince Carter back ...I was like ????????? could this happen...could it ?
If a deal with the Bulls goes through, we'll probably have to pick up some bodies. We'll probably need a bigman since Krstic isn't back yet, and it probably wouldn't hurt if they could play multiple positions since that's what Frank likes to do. Heck, in a perfect world they could come in without much adjustment time because they already know our offense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (downunderwonder @ Jan 23 2008, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>McHale is stupid... not THAT stupid. Would cost us a first rounder...</div> Instead of a first rounder what about taking on another 3 year contract in Buckners then? Wright Nachbar Magloire Collins Allen for McCants Walker Doleac Buckner Richard Kidd/M.Williams/Armstrong Carter/McCants/Buckner Jefferson/Walker Boone/Sean Krstic/Doleac/Richard
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jan 23 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Marcus/Tinsley comparison by MikeDC is quite accurate, you ask me.</div> I heard a better one during his rookie season.... Rafer Alston. why? because he can look like a legend, a scrub and joe average NBA player, all in the space of 8 mins...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Jan 23 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (downunderwonder @ Jan 23 2008, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>McHale is stupid... not THAT stupid. Would cost us a first rounder...</div> Instead of a first rounder what about taking on another 3 year contract in Buckners then? Wright Nachbar Magloire Collins Allen for McCants Walker Doleac Buckner Richard Kidd/M.Williams/Armstrong Carter/McCants/Buckner Jefferson/Walker Boone/Sean Krstic/Doleac/Richard </div> At least buckner tries on Defence. I just cant see us taking on the shimmy for less than a draft pick and I cant see the wolves giving away McCants without a pick... STALEMATE
not sure how i feel about this. i love what noc brings. i think he can bring some of the emotional firepower that kenyon gave us. i think his attitude will rub off and would love to have him, but marcus is involved. sometimes i see him as a lost cause, then remember that he is a kid who just came off surgery. he got a lot of praise from management/coaches during the summer. how his workin habits were better and he was in great shape. like everyone else, i see flashes that marcus can take us into the future, but at times you see his horrible defense and bad play. i think with marcus it just is a little too early to give up on the guy. point guard is extremely hard for someone to pick up and be great at unless if you have a real gem like chris paul or deron williams. if we could keep marcus that would be great. what about sending vince and gettin back deng or gordon? i havent done the trade checker thing, just saying things outloud. if we could get a deng or gordon for vince, we can give the new group a shot and maybe it would be easier to just fully rebuild by sending kidd out. it wont happen because ratner loves vince too much, but it would be nice to me
