Mamba, I'll be completely honest with you and say that I haven't really that seen much of Zach Randolph to make accurate judgements, so I'll take your word for it. The only things I know about Z-Bo are articles and stuff I read online. And ever since he won the Most Improved Player award, I have never read a single positive thing about him Anyways, like I said before, if we want Z-Bo, we probably won't have to give up Lamar to do so. A couple of expirings and picks could get the job done. As much as I want to trade Lamar, a part of me wants to hold onto him until next season because I really think his 14 million expiring contract could help land us something big.
When I said I would cut Odom or ask for a buyout, it was out of frustration. I'm not that stupid. If anything, we suspend him for the rest of the season and use his big expiring next year as a trade piece. lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lakerman34 @ Jan 26 2008, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Guys, GG can become an OUTSTANDING player in this league w/ proper coaching, which the Lakers have to offer. He draws comparisons like TMac or VC. When Kobe retires, we may have the next best Laker duo if Gerald Green and Andrew Bynum. Not to mention, Crittenton and Farmar running the point. With this trade, we can drop $20M this summer and can pick up Brand ($9M from Brown, $11M from Ratliff). Why wouldn't anyone want to do this? Also, this trade improves us RIGHT AWAY IMO, and we'll get even better over the summer. Next year's starting 5: PG Derek Fisher SG Kobe Bryant SF Gerald Green PF Elton Brand C Andrew Bynum Bench: Jordan Farmar, Trevor Ariza, Luke Walton, Kwame Brown (now worth LLE), Ronny Turiaf, Sasha Vujacic, Chris Mihm That, by far, may be the best lineup in the league. We either do this or hold out until the summer, trade Odom for Artest, and forget about Brand, and I really don't prefer the latter.</div> Great Minds do think alike!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Jan 26 2008, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As for Green, if you guys want to call out Randolph's "attitude problems", Green's are absolutely no better. Green is a bum, he thought he could come into the league and sweep it away with his athletic talents...well he has failed miserably. There is a reason why Minnesota didn't extend him...it's because his attitude is piss poor, his skills are very raw, and his defense is non-existent. I'll take a proven player, Randolph, over this hack.</div> As a guy who has followed Green from his high school All-American game, everything you said about him is furthest from the truth. He never came into the league thinking he could be a serious threat. He waited his turn his rookie year and didn't play until February. Gerald has been very patient in his young career and now he and his agent have decided enough is enough. You mention his attitude is piss poor. Wrong again. Gerald has a very strong work ethic. He strides to get better each season and is a very hard worker. The T-Wolves decided to not extend his option judging from a poor pre-season not from his previous 81 games. His defense is decent at best but he wants to get better at it. He actually tries to play defense unlike some other HS players. (ex. JR Smith) The only thing I have about GG coming to the Lakers is that Phil Jackson is gonna be on a short leash with Gerald. But hey, he and Kobe get along really well and I'm sure Kobe wouldn't mind the trade. And also long term, Bynum and Green is very scary.
Isn't Green notorious for taking plays off? Everything I've read states out that he plays defense when he wants to and isn't dedicated to improving his game. If you are right, I do expect the Lakers to be all over this. A future lineup of Farmar, Crittenton, Green, ---, Bynum? Amazing?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 26 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Mamba, I'll be completely honest with you and say that I haven't really that seen much of Zach Randolph to make accurate judgements, so I'll take your word for it. The only things I know about Z-Bo are articles and stuff I read online. And ever since he won the Most Improved Player award, I have never read a single positive thing about him Anyways, like I said before, if we want Z-Bo, we probably won't have to give up Lamar to do so. A couple of expirings and picks could get the job done. As much as I want to trade Lamar, a part of me wants to hold onto him until next season because I really think his 14 million expiring contract could help land us something big.</div> well, in your last post, you were pretty on point. Every team Randolph has played for, the team has struggled. He is the stephon Marbury of big men. He plays no defense watsoever, can't pass a lick, doesn't want to pass, and takes too many ill advised shots. I hate Odom, but randolph is not the answer and Mamba, who needs defense? The lakers need defense! Last I checked, they were one of the best offensive teams in the NBA, and only mid tier on defense. We don't need more offense, and less defense. We need the opposite. ... and before you say Odom's defense sucks, it does, but it still is 100000x better than Randolphs mockery of what you call defense. If Brian Cook could play along side Bynum and make our defense suck, Randolph can do the same. Randolph makes Brian Cook look like Bill Russell
Odom for Ben Wallace?? I wouldn't do it, but it adds a player who only focuses on defense. Are there other players who are great on D rumoured to be available?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Jan 27 2008, 01:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't Green notorious for taking plays off? Everything I've read states out that he plays defense when he wants to and isn't dedicated to improving his game. If you are right, I do expect the Lakers to be all over this. A future lineup of Farmar, Crittenton, Green, ---, Bynum? Amazing?</div> He doesn't take plays off. He's very active actually and where are you getting this information? He plays defense just not very good defense because he lacks IQ. He is very dedicated to improving his game. He works in the summer with former NBA Coach John Lucas. Guys like Rashard Lewis also go there. And what I hear is that Gerald is alway the first to be in practice and the last to leave. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Teammates say Green has been a workhorse at practices, arriving early and staying late to work on his game.</div> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writ...lves/index.html
^ I would believe you, except you seem to be the only Celtic fan who thinks that way http://sportstwo.com/forums/Gerald-Green-traded-t110686.html Everyone else thinks his basketball IQ is horrible and he sucks
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 27 2008, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^ I would believe you, except you seem to be the only Celtic fan who thinks that way http://sportstwo.com/forums/Gerald-Green-traded-t110686.html Everyone else thinks his basketball IQ is horrible and he sucks</div> His basketball IQ is terrible because he first started playing organized basketball in his sophomore year. 5 years of basketball, do the math. He needs time but when he develops he is gonna be a terrific player because he works hard and has amazing potential. He could be a top 10 scorer in 2-3 years. Just give him playing time to grow and mature in this league.
Gerald Green is a little baby whenever he doesn't make a play or gets his ass kicked on defense. He pouts and it hurts his team. He tries to be Mr Highlight Reel everytime he's out there and honestly doesn't seem to even have half a brain. He may be a hard worker in practice but that's pretty sad if he works that hard and he still sucks.
Well its pretty impressive what Gerald Green does, having one finger on his right hand. Probably makes it hard blocking shots and palming the ball.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jan 27 2008, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gerald Green is a little baby whenever he doesn't make a play or gets his ass kicked on defense. He pouts and it hurts his team. He tries to be Mr Highlight Reel everytime he's out there and honestly doesn't seem to even have half a brain. He may be a hard worker in practice but that's pretty sad if he works that hard and he still sucks.</div> That's just frustration and desire to motivated himself dumbass. KG says about every swear in the book when he messes up...
It seems like you're the only one with anything positive to say about Gerald. I'll go with the majority
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 27 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It seems like you're the only one with anything positive to say about Gerald. I'll go with the majority</div> You can do whatever you want but playa has been a hater of Gerald Green since when he was on the Celtics.
To be fair Brian, the majority is still only like 3 posters. I'm still undecided on Green, mainly because I haven't seen him play as much I'd like. Obviously the dude's a project and not the superstar prospect we expected coming out of the draft, but who knows if he still has the ability to salvage some of that potential.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jan 28 2008, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>To be fair Brian, the majority is still only like 3 posters. I'm still undecided on Green, mainly because I haven't seen him play as much I'd like. Obviously the dude's a project and not the superstar prospect we expected coming out of the draft, but who knows if he still has the ability to salvage some of that potential.</div> With a proper system and coaching, I think he can exceed expectations.
