Exit Polls say it should end up around: Obama 53%, Clinton 26%, Edwards 15%. Obama with 83% of the black votes. Nice going Clinton's screwing yourself over in a place where you used to be supported well. This is a huge route, 25%+ victory. First route in delegate numbers as well (Obama has tied/got first in all primaries/caucuses so far in that regard). Hillary isn't going to give a speech, she is that poor of a sport. Obama's people told Edwards that they aren't going to make any deals with Edwards down the line. I think thats basically a drop out soon if you want a spot in my presidency. Clinton begging Edwards to stay in to take away the white male vote from Obama. Clinton's mentioning America Samoa now, lol...how desperate. OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA! The next best thing to Ron Paul!
Yeah, I'm still split on whether to vote for Ron Paul or Barack Obama. Ron Paul is the candidate I'd rather vote for, but I know he won't get the nominee. (Especially with Wisconsin this late into the cycle). I'd like to give a vote of support, but Obama would be a vote that matters, and not having Hillary in White is more important to me then having Paul in the White House. We did a little bit of a smear on Hillary in our paper, so hopefully that helps out Obama some. Him and Clinton split the Democratic vote in the poll we did at our school. But with 142 likely Democrat voters at our school, if we can swing it 80% Obama, 20% Clinton, that would give Obama a nice little boost in our city, although I think being a border state to Obama, he will probably win Wisconsin no problem.
I can't wait for Edwards to drop, what the hell is wrong with that guy? He's wasting millions of dollars for nothing.
CNN EXIT POLL: Gender Male (39%): Clinton 23% Edwards 22% Obama 55% Female (61%): Clinton 30% Edwards 16% Obama 53% Hillary lost both to males and females. Age 18-29 (13%): Clinton 23% Edwards 9% Obama 68% 30-44 (25%): Clinton 23% Edwards 15% Obama 62% 45-59 (35%): Clinton 26% Edwards 18% Obama 55% 60+ (27%): Clinton 35% Edwards 27% Obama 37% Hillary lost among all age groups. Obama won among church goers (66%). Hillary is really the devil. What a glorious day. Obama won among blacks in every age group by a route, and won among 18-29 Whites. Edwards won among whites 30-44 and 45-59. Hillary only won the 60+ whites. MSNBC: Clintons at war against blacks, casino workers, restraunt owners, and the democratic party!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jan 26 2008, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can't wait for Edwards to drop, what the hell is wrong with that guy? He's wasting millions of dollars for nothing.</div> He's trying to become the king of the convention, because he figures that Obama and Clinton both won't get enough delegates to win the nominee, so if he gets 15% of the vote, his nominees get to attend the convention, and he is trying to bargain them off to Obama or Clinton in exchange for a cabinet position, or supreme court justice or something. This might change with an Obama route though, as Obama is going to route all the Super Tuesday Caucus states as well, he's going to route Illinois, and it looks like he may be able to get wins in California and New Jersey. Hillary might just have Arkansas and New York. Not sure what Edwards is doing. I think he is going to end up the Vice President, and not in a cabinet position or supreme court justice. He already said that Obama was his ally in change, so I think he should just form a ticket with Obama already.
Both Clintons have taken more cheapshots and been more obnoxious lately (Bill with his Jesse Jackson comment and going against the democratic party's wishes). Hillary also had to give back $800,000+ because she dealt with one of these shady characters before, I forgot the name. It was stupid to bring up the slumlord verbal flourish. BTW, I am independent but I like Obama obviously.
Also: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>ROCK HILL, South Carolina (Reuters) - Sen. Hillary Clinton, in an about-face, said on Friday she wants the Democratic Party delegates in two states that were barred by the national party to be reinstated and counted in the race to determine the party's U.S. presidential nominee. ADVERTISEMENT In those states, Michigan and Florida, Clinton could stake claim to nearly all the delegates to the nominating convention in question -- more than 350. She was the only candidate on the Democratic ballot in Michigan and holds a strong lead in Florida, which holds its contest on Tuesday. The national party eliminated the delegates from Michigan and Florida because the states broke party rules by holding primary voting contests before February 5. But just four days before Florida's primary, Clinton said she wants the delegates reinstated. "I know other campaigns have tried to downplay the significance of these two states," Clinton told reporters. "I think that is not a good strategy for Democrats or any of us who cares about the outcome of this election."</div> Thats some bullshit there. She goes against the Democratic party, who said to not participate in the primaries that were violating the party rules. She goes against that in Michigan by leaving her name in the ballot. Then in Florida, she starts doing some light campaigning for the state. (Obama now had double Hillary's votes in SC!)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jan 26 2008, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Also: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>ROCK HILL, South Carolina (Reuters) - Sen. Hillary Clinton, in an about-face, said on Friday she wants the Democratic Party delegates in two states that were barred by the national party to be reinstated and counted in the race to determine the party's U.S. presidential nominee. ADVERTISEMENT In those states, Michigan and Florida, Clinton could stake claim to nearly all the delegates to the nominating convention in question -- more than 350. She was the only candidate on the Democratic ballot in Michigan and holds a strong lead in Florida, which holds its contest on Tuesday. The national party eliminated the delegates from Michigan and Florida because the states broke party rules by holding primary voting contests before February 5. But just four days before Florida's primary, Clinton said she wants the delegates reinstated. "I know other campaigns have tried to downplay the significance of these two states," Clinton told reporters. "I think that is not a good strategy for Democrats or any of us who cares about the outcome of this election."</div> Thats some bullshit there. She goes against the Democratic party, who said to not participate in the primaries that were violating the party rules. She goes against that in Michigan by leaving her name in the ballot. Then in Florida, she starts doing some light campaigning for the state. (Obama now had double Hillary's votes in SC!) </div> Wow that pisses me off, but I think she just screwed herself. She's an idiot for doing this, I'm sure she just cost herself some voters in other states with this Satanic tactic. ****ing ridiculous.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>A President Like My Father By CAROLINE KENNEDY Published: January 27, 2008 OVER the years, I’ve been deeply moved by the people who’ve told me they wished they could feel inspired and hopeful about America the way people did when my father was president. This sense is even more profound today. That is why I am supporting a presidential candidate in the Democratic primaries, Barack Obama. My reasons are patriotic, political and personal, and the three are intertwined. All my life, people have told me that my father changed their lives, that they got involved in public service or politics because he asked them to. And the generation he inspired has passed that spirit on to its children. I meet young people who were born long after John F. Kennedy was president, yet who ask me how to live out his ideals. Sometimes it takes a while to recognize that someone has a special ability to get us to believe in ourselves, to tie that belief to our highest ideals and imagine that together we can do great things. In those rare moments, when such a person comes along, we need to put aside our plans and reach for what we know is possible. We have that kind of opportunity with Senator Obama. It isn’t that the other candidates are not experienced or knowledgeable. But this year, that may not be enough. We need a change in the leadership of this country — just as we did in 1960. Most of us would prefer to base our voting decision on policy differences. However, the candidates’ goals are similar. They have all laid out detailed plans on everything from strengthening our middle class to investing in early childhood education. So qualities of leadership, character and judgment play a larger role than usual. Senator Obama has demonstrated these qualities throughout his more than two decades of public service, not just in the United States Senate but in Illinois, where he helped turn around struggling communities, taught constitutional law and was an elected state official for eight years. And Senator Obama is showing the same qualities today. He has built a movement that is changing the face of politics in this country, and he has demonstrated a special gift for inspiring young people — known for a willingness to volunteer, but an aversion to politics — to become engaged in the political process. I have spent the past five years working in the New York City public schools and have three teenage children of my own. There is a generation coming of age that is hopeful, hard-working, innovative and imaginative. But too many of them are also hopeless, defeated and disengaged. As parents, we have a responsibility to help our children to believe in themselves and in their power to shape their future. Senator Obama is inspiring my children, my parents’ grandchildren, with that sense of possibility. Senator Obama is running a dignified and honest campaign. He has spoken eloquently about the role of faith in his life, and opened a window into his character in two compelling books. And when it comes to judgment, Barack Obama made the right call on the most important issue of our time by opposing the war in Iraq from the beginning. I want a president who understands that his responsibility is to articulate a vision and encourage others to achieve it; who holds himself, and those around him, to the highest ethical standards; who appeals to the hopes of those who still believe in the American Dream, and those around the world who still believe in the American ideal; and who can lift our spirits, and make us believe again that our country needs every one of us to get involved. I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president — not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans.</div> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27kennedy.html?hp He may get Ted Kennedy's endorsement as well (he should be fine in Massachusetts since Kerry endorsed him, but a Kennedy endorsement there would ensure a route).
I just heard Edwards give an interview to KO on MSNBC and it does seem like he is following BG7's "convention" theory, sly devil (I mean that last term in a facetious manner though). So I guess he is just happy with 15%+.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jan 26 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I just heard Edwards give an interview to KO on MSNBC and it does seem like he is following BG7's "convention" theory, sly devil (I mean that last term in a facetious manner though). So I guess he is just happy with 15%+.</div> If he gets 15% of the vote, his delegates get to attend the convention and put their support behind Chillary or Obama. They can choose either, but if they have any allegiance to Edwards, they would largely follow him. I believe the delegates are people who sign up in their party and sign up for the spots. Like you sign up to be an Obama delegate, or a Ron Paul delegate, or whatever...and the delegates representing those areas where the candidates wins get to go. So the Edwards delegates could definitely show allegiance to him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bynumite @ Jan 26 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Obama ain't winning shit.</div> Except Iowa and South Carolina and the most delegates in every state so far. He'll also win the General Election in a landslide. Just look now, how much he is inspiring people to get out and vote in the Democratic Primary. It'll be the same in the General Election. It'll piss me off if the Michigan and Florida delegates get to seat. Clinton knows Obama will have a plurality, so she is going to try to **** him over by not following the party's wishes.
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