I was thinking about this while working out today... Now that we've seen that Andrew is clearly our 2nd best player on the team and is the only in the starting lineup that can create his own offense, will he be seeing more touches, specifically in the 2nd half of the game? I'd love to see his touches go up to about 12-15 a game. I think he could convert on 7-10 of those on a consistent basis. If you then factor in his free throws, we're talking about 20, 10, and 2 here!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Jan 29 2008, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was thinking about this while working out today... Now that we've seen that Andrew is clearly our 2nd best player on the team and is the only in the starting lineup that can create his own offense, will he be seeing more touches, specifically in the 2nd half of the game? I'd love to see his touches go up to about 12-15 a game. I think he could convert on 7-10 of those on a consistent basis. If you then factor in his free throws, we're talking about 20, 10, and 2 here!</div> +1, thats exactly the range i was thinking about.
I would definitely think his touches will go up. His absence has shown just how important he is to this team, so why not give him more touches? Plus, when you've got a guy shooting 65% from the floor and is a mostly reliable foul shooter, shouldn't you be finding a way to get him as many touches as possible anyways?
Well, he's leading the lead in FG% so it only makes sense to give him more touches. He can also put other players in foul trouble if he gets the ball under the basket more.
It depends on his conditioning once he comes back. I'd like to see him get 18-20 shots per game once he's back in shape.
He only was averaging like 8.5 Field goal attempts before his injury. 18-20 FGA is twice as much as before, as well if he starts averaging 18 ppg, 12 rpg, and 2 bpg, he'd definitely be getting a max contract which the Lakers probably want to avoid. (That seems to be the only reason I can think why his FGA is so low considering he is shooting an absurd 64%)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 29 2008, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He only was averaging like 8.5 Field goal attempts before his injury. 18-20 FGA is twice as much as before, as well if he starts averaging 18 ppg, 12 rpg, and 2 bpg, he'd definitely be getting a max contract which the Lakers probably want to avoid. (That seems to be the only reason I can think why his FGA is so low considering he is shooting an absurd 64%)</div> He's getting 8.5 field goals, but the problem is he's getting most of them in the 1st half only. If the team looks for him in the second half the way they do in the first half he should be able to handle it. I'm sure the Lakers are ready to max him out if necessary. He should get a contract similar to Kaman's deal with the Clippers. Bynum needs to work his way into getting the amount of touches Shaq was getting in the Triangle offense.
And probably did it on 9 FGA per game. lol. If he gets 18-20 FGA per game, he'll be averaging 28-30 ppg.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 29 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And probably did it on 9 FGA per game. lol. If he gets 18-20 FGA per game, he'll be averaging 28-30 ppg.</div> I'm perfectly fine with him scoring 30+
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 29 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And probably did it on 9 FGA per game. lol. If he gets 18-20 FGA per game, he'll be averaging 28-30 ppg.</div> I like Andrew but he probably wouldn't be getting that many PPG with 20 FGA. The more shots one takes, the more tired they get or the more a defense focuses on you. He'd still probably be close to 55% though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Jan 30 2008, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 29 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And probably did it on 9 FGA per game. lol. If he gets 18-20 FGA per game, he'll be averaging 28-30 ppg.</div> I'm perfectly fine with him scoring 30+ </div> I'm sure every Laker fan would love Bynum to be scoring 30 ppg, but he probably doesn't have the stamina to create his own shot 15 times per game, as well sometimes he Lakers just stop feeding him the ball, so that could be a problem too. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jan 30 2008, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 29 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And probably did it on 9 FGA per game. lol. If he gets 18-20 FGA per game, he'll be averaging 28-30 ppg.</div> I like Andrew but he probably wouldn't be getting that many PPG with 20 FGA. The more shots one takes, the more tired they get or the more a defense focuses on you. He'd still probably be close to 55% though. </div> Well I agree, I don't think Bynum has the stamina to take 20 FGA per game as an average this year, and yes teams would probably double him to prevent him from getting as many shots up. Kobe is only taking 21 FGA per game, and he is a veteran SG who plays more mpg, and its usually easier for guards to take more shots than centers. But if Bynum somehow had the stamina, and the Lakers offense could find the shots for him, then lets say he is shooting 55% on 20 FGA, and when he was taking 8.5 FGA per game he was making 2.34 FT per game, if that ratio is extended to 20 FGA he would make 5.5 F per game. So that would be an expected ppg of 27.5 ppg, you were right my guess was a little high of 28-30 ppg, but it was close. Anyway it does not seem possible for Bynum to get 20 FGA per game. Something more reasonable would be 10 FGA, which is 15% more shots than he was taking before the injury.
I actually think it's possible Bynum would be able to handle that kind of load. If you really look at it, he's rarely creating his own shots. I think it was something like 97% of his shots come in the paint area, and half of those are dunks set up by Kobe and everyone else. The only thing that would wear him down is getting in position to get the easy hoop, but even then, at his size, he's able to do that easily for the most part.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Jan 30 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually think it's possible Bynum would be able to handle that kind of load. If you really look at it, he's rarely creating his own shots. I think it was something like 97% of his shots come in the paint area, and half of those are dunks set up by Kobe and everyone else. The only thing that would wear him down is getting in position to get the easy hoop, but even then, at his size, he's able to do that easily for the most part.</div> The Most shots he's taken this year is 14. He is not nearly ready to take 20 shots a game. Kevin Garnett being the SG-ish big man has NEVER averaged 20 shots in a season, I don't think people realize how large that number is for a Big guy. The load that he can handle is closer to 14-17 shots a game. I could see him average 22-24 PPG in an ideal case.
Shaq in his prime averaged between 19-20 FGAs per game. I think Bynum can handle the load because he's getting EASY wide open shots off of the plays Kobe and Odom create for him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Jan 30 2008, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shaq in his prime averaged between 19-20 FGAs per game. I think Bynum can handle the load because he's getting EASY wide open shots off of the plays Kobe and Odom create for him.</div> Shaq is almost an exception to the rule though. Andrew has had All-Star PER, but I don't know if he's going to be the best center in the league in the future or if his stamina will hold up. Actually, he might one day be able to take 19 shots a game, but certainly not "immediately" following his return. There have been many athletic Bigs in this league that haven't been able to take that many shots, and Odom is not creating as well for his teammates this season either, Kobe also needs his shots which I am sure hurt's Bynum's chances even more (Kind of like the way Paul Pierce and Ray Allen have dug into KG's attempts, or how Shaq dug into Kobe's attempts).
I totally agree with huevonkiller. Bynum this year has no chance of averaging 20 FGA per game. Kobe deserves his fair share of shots being the talented player he is. I also agree, that someday, as Bynum continues to develop and if a team is built around him, then it is in the realm of possibility that he would average 20 FGA per game. There is a reason that Bynum has a season high of 14 FGA. Shaq is a rare center, not many centers can play down low and take 20 FGA per game. Bynum is averaging 8.5 FGA per game, and when he comes back healthy a realistic number is probably 10 FGA per game, at this stage. I am not saying he is not capable of taking more than 10 FGA per game, just that I do not see the team giving him that many FGA per game.
