No chance in hell for a complete rebuild. Not unless we can find takers on Carter's deal. I'd almost offer Carter to Miami for Williams and Davis, then just let those two go in the summer. But not even Miami is that desperate. Face it, unless we get out from underneath Carter's contract we will never be able to completely rebuild for at least the next 4 years.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jan 29 2008, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd still prefer to get back Pau in a three-way deal. He's got a long-term contract, but next year he'll be paid a lot less than Kidd, which opens up funds to sign Krstic and possible some other free agent. Suddenly the frontcourt would be a team strength with Pau-Krstic-Boone-SWill.</div> Dumpy, still hoping you'll chime in with a trade scenario that might make sense for getting Pau from Memphis. I'm going to ponder that one for a while and see if I can think of anything.
How about the following 3 way deal (And it actually works financially on ESPN trade machine) ESPN Trade Machine Dallas gets: Kidd Nets gets: Pau Gasol, Juan Carlos, Trenton Hassel, Jose Juan Barea Memphis gets: Diop, Boone, Devean George, Stackhouse, Magloire Why the teams do this... Dallas gets Kidd without giving up any significant rotation player besides Stackhouse. Memphis dumps a ton of salary and gets a young player in Boone and another piece they can move in Stackhouse. Nets get Pau Gasol, JCN and are instantly retooled into a halfcourt team: JCN / MWill Vince / Wright RJ / Boki Pau / SWAT Krstic / Collins
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MFNetsFan @ Jan 30 2008, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why the teams do this... Dallas gets Kidd without giving up any significant rotation player besides Stackhouse. Memphis dumps a ton of salary and gets a young player in Boone and another piece they can move in Stackhouse. Nets get Pau Gasol, JCN and are instantly retooled into a halfcourt team:</div> Your reasons for Dallas and Nets are compelling, but I don't see it with Memphis. I think they have to get at least one high first round draft pick (or equivalent young prospect) before they dump Gasol. Of course I've heard it reported that they were seeking two first rounders and pieces for a couple of years and have yet to land a deal, so maybe their price will come down this year. As I look at that team, I think they would probably be looking to get a good, "young prime" PG and great young prospect/pick back for Gasol. Could you retool your deal and see if you can fit that model?
There just aren't any young talents available from the Nets or Dallas that they'd give up in that deal. The Nets would already be dumping Boone in that scenario. You can bring in a 4th team like Seattle who has a bundle of middle of the road contracts and do a Ridnour for Cardinal swap... but I don't see that sweetening the pot too much for anyone. 4 way adding Seattle The other way to look would be potential 4 ways with memphis, the bulls, the nets, and [Contending team who gets Kidd for expiring contracts]. In those, Pau goes to the Bulls, the Nets get most of the expiring contracts + picks, and Memphis gets something like Gordon + Tyrus Thomas + filler. Something like this Add to that an unprotected 1st from each of the 3 teams to the Nets. Denver gets Kidd for spare parts + Nene, Memphis gets flexibility + skilled youth, the Bulls get Pau, and the Nets get picks + Cap space.
Ok, I've just went through several multi-team trade scenarios and my head is spinning in confusion: But what about some starting point like this: Nets trade: Jason Kidd Jason Collins Nets receive: Kwame Brown Raef LaFrentz Channig Frye Martell Webster Jordan Farmar Rights to Rudy Fernandez Lakers first round pick Lakers trade: Lamar Odom Kwame Brown Jordan Farmar Lakers first round pick Lakers receive: Kidd Collins Portland trades: Raef LaFrentz Channing Frye Martell Webster Rights to Rudy Fernandez Portland receives Lamar Odom Malik Allen This would leave the Nets with some assets to use in a trade this year or next: Assets in young players: Sean Williams Josh Boone Jordan Farmar Marcus Williams Martell Webster Rudy Ferdandez Lakers first round pick Assets in contracts: Expiring contract of Jamaal Magloire Expiring contract of Kwame Brown Expiring contract of Bostjan Nachbar Expiring contract of Antoine Wright Next year the large expiring contract of Raef LaFrentz So it gives the Nets some flexibility to either reloading this season by putting a package together for Gasol or some other player or even trying something next season.
I don't have a good sense of what Memphis would like in return for Pau. The team doesn't make sense to me. They already have a bunch of young players; there are only so many you can aborb at once! maybe they'd be interested in upgrading some of their young players--you know, punting Warrick and Lowry for a better SF/PF and PG.
As if the Clippers would deal their core for the Nets' core.. ;[ Brand alone commands more than Kidd and RJ as far as value goes Also, though Kidd has lost a step in recent years, he was DEFINITELY a franchise player in the years the Nets made the Finals. So yes I would argue that replacing Kidd with another PG will realistically not do a whole lot for them.
