<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Jan 31 2008, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>A lot of people are upset at Kobe for missing shots and FT's, but isn't he like a career 82% FT shooter? He's going to miss those occasionally. What they also have to remember is he's had a nagging wrist injury all year. It's hard to shoot the ball well when your wrist is messed up.</div> um only for the 1st week or 2 weeks i think... i read somewhere that he still wears the sleeve because he is used to it. IMo its his style.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jan 31 2008, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think defense is really the one thing that Kobe's still got over Lebron. Aside from that, its pretty even.</div> kinda co-sign except I think lebron is better. just my honest opinion no need attack me LOL.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobe23 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 31 2008, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobe23 @ Jan 31 2008, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>- accomplished more at the age of 23 - kobe has a smaller physique but dominates the game just like lebron - no one (in terms of size) can match up to lebron (PG, SG, SF are to smalle and PF and C are too big and slow to guard him) but Kobe can still dominate any defender he goes up against just the same Trench, ask your friend what would happen if kobe were also 6'8 like lebron OR better yet, what would happen if Lebron was 6 - 4/5 like Kobe</div> What would happen if AI was 6'6 or 6'8, and what would happen if Kobe and Lebron were 5'11? What if Baron Davis was 6'6 and Kobe was 6'3? What if Charles Barkley was 7'6 and Yao Ming was 6'6? Lebron is better at getting into and scoring in the paint, Kobe is a better mid-range and 3 point shooter. Kobe on average is a better perimeter defender that Lebron. Kobe when he puts energy into it, is quite a bit better perimeter defender (Kobe when he is fresh can guard some pgs imo). Lebron is better at holding his ground against bigger players. Although this advantage is not as important as perimeter defense would be for a SF. I think Kobe has a better coach, and better team design. Kobe has 3 rings, which definitely shows which player has accomplished more in their careers. If I had to choose one player for the Lakers I think Kobe is a better fit, if I had to choose a player for the Cavs, Lebron is a better fit. Right now, its kind of hard to say, it depends on the team's design, and both are top players. </div> This is about Kobe and Lebron Oh and God is Good, he never makes anyone perfect... except for Lebron! LOL </div> Now I know why Mamba likes Contradicting you. Stop flooding the Laker forum with low quality nonsense about switching bodies. The facts are that they have the bodies they have, don't keep bringing it up for your own reputation and <u>stop double and triple posting</u>. Take care of your bad retorts in a single post. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Feb 3 2008, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jan 31 2008, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think defense is really the one thing that Kobe's still got over Lebron. Aside from that, its pretty even.</div> kinda co-sign except I think lebron is better. just my honest opinion no need attack me LOL. </div> Could you provide any further insight and do all your posts need a LOL in them? I guess so. I think a lot of Laker fans sell LeBron short, but I take Kobe over him slightly. LeBron's having a great season this year, but it's still just half a season so I want to see how he finishes this out.
The whole LeBron plays in the east argument is wrong. You can't take away his accomplishment just because the competition isn't as strong as the West. The fact is LeBron reached the finals with a very flawed team, could Kobe had done that? probably but its moot since thats not the case.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The whole LeBron plays in the east argument is wrong. You can't take away his accomplishment just because the competition isn't as strong as the West. The fact is LeBron reached the finals with a very flawed team, could Kobe had done that? probably but its moot since thats not the case.</div> Lebron playing in the East has a big impact on why he reached the finals... why? coz the EAST playoffs is FULL of EASTERN teams LOL
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobe23 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The whole LeBron plays in the east argument is wrong. You can't take away his accomplishment just because the competition isn't as strong as the West. The fact is LeBron reached the finals with a very flawed team, could Kobe had done that? probably but its moot since thats not the case.</div> Lebron playing in the East has a big impact on why he reached the finals... why? coz the EAST playoffs is FULL of EASTERN teams LOL </div> Deeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit Baaaaaaaaasketbaaaaaaaaaallll Anyone that's dismissing Cleveland's run to the finals is really dissin on Detroit.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobe23 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Jan 31 2008, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>A lot of people are upset at Kobe for missing shots and FT's, but isn't he like a career 82% FT shooter? He's going to miss those occasionally. What they also have to remember is he's had a nagging wrist injury all year. It's hard to shoot the ball well when your wrist is messed up.</div> um only for the 1st week or 2 weeks i think... i read somewhere that he still wears the sleeve because he is used to it. IMo its his style. </div> I don't know if you've ever had a wrist injury, but as a basketball fan you should know that a wrist injury to a shooter is always a nagging injury. It might not be as prominent as it was to begin the yet, but it still has an impact on him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobe23 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The whole LeBron plays in the east argument is wrong. You can't take away his accomplishment just because the competition isn't as strong as the West. The fact is LeBron reached the finals with a very flawed team, could Kobe had done that? probably but its moot since thats not the case.</div> Lebron playing in the East has a big impact on why he reached the finals... why? coz the EAST playoffs is FULL of EASTERN teams LOL </div> So LeBron reaching the Finals means less because he made it from the east? I'm sorry, I don't buy that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Feb 3 2008, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobe23 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The whole LeBron plays in the east argument is wrong. You can't take away his accomplishment just because the competition isn't as strong as the West. The fact is LeBron reached the finals with a very flawed team, could Kobe had done that? probably but its moot since thats not the case.</div> Lebron playing in the East has a big impact on why he reached the finals... why? coz the EAST playoffs is FULL of EASTERN teams LOL </div> So LeBron reaching the Finals means less because he made it from the east? I'm sorry, I don't buy that. </div> Well he did play the Wizards without Arenas and Butler, played the Nets in the Second round, then got swept in the Finals. I do think that detracts somewhat from the accomplishment.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobe23 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 31 2008, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobe23 @ Jan 31 2008, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>- accomplished more at the age of 23 - kobe has a smaller physique but dominates the game just like lebron - no one (in terms of size) can match up to lebron (PG, SG, SF are to smalle and PF and C are too big and slow to guard him) but Kobe can still dominate any defender he goes up against just the same Trench, ask your friend what would happen if kobe were also 6'8 like lebron OR better yet, what would happen if Lebron was 6 - 4/5 like Kobe</div> What would happen if AI was 6'6 or 6'8, and what would happen if Kobe and Lebron were 5'11? What if Baron Davis was 6'6 and Kobe was 6'3? What if Charles Barkley was 7'6 and Yao Ming was 6'6? Lebron is better at getting into and scoring in the paint, Kobe is a better mid-range and 3 point shooter. Kobe on average is a better perimeter defender that Lebron. Kobe when he puts energy into it, is quite a bit better perimeter defender (Kobe when he is fresh can guard some pgs imo). Lebron is better at holding his ground against bigger players. Although this advantage is not as important as perimeter defense would be for a SF. I think Kobe has a better coach, and better team design. Kobe has 3 rings, which definitely shows which player has accomplished more in their careers. If I had to choose one player for the Lakers I think Kobe is a better fit, if I had to choose a player for the Cavs, Lebron is a better fit. Right now, its kind of hard to say, it depends on the team's design, and both are top players. </div> This is about Kobe and Lebron Oh and God is Good, he never makes anyone perfect... except for Lebron! LOL </div> Yea, but saying well if one player was taller and had 45 extra pounds of muscle to determine who is better is a lame arguement. One could make an arguement that Jordan wouldn't have been great if he was 6 inches shorter and weighed 50 pounds less like AI did.
I honestly think playing in the East does slight the accomplishment of going to the Finals a little bit. For one, he only played one team that was worth a damn, and that was Detroit. Otherwise, he played a Nets team that wasn't that good to begin with and a Wizards team that was missing two of its best players. Than when they finally made the finals and played against a very, very good San Antonio team, they stood no chance. Plus, one other thing you have to look at, aside from the fact that they got swept, is that LeBron was completely taken out of the series. He didn't just have one bad game, he had four straight bad games, and this was after he dominated Detroit. So, maybe had he done decent in the Finals or had they not gotten swept, I wouldn't slight the accomplishment, but the fact of the matter is that he choked on the biggest stage of them all and his team followed suit.
