Update: Collins trade could be finalized this weekend

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  1. ly_yng

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 1 2008, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 1 2008, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 1 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>

    Swift will produce more on the court. If he gets time, he can be a decent trade chip.

    Swift's worst case scenario is that he's simply an expiring deal - which makes him equal to Collins anyway.</div>

    No, Stro's worst case scenario is that he has to be sent home and told to stay away from the team. I'd rather have McInnis around the young guys than Stro.
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    It's still equal same in terms of trade value.

    It might even be preferred. An inactive Swift might be easier to buy out by his new team, where Collins will take up a roster spot all season.
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    I think you're underestimating Collins' effect as a player-coach during practice. Maybe someone will be interested in Swift, but I doubt it at his contract number. One thing I know for sure is that he won't be teaching Boone and Swat how to play man-to-man post defense, and area where they've both improved dramatically over the few months they've been playing.
     
  2. #1_Josh_Boone_Fan

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    If Swift was that good would he really be going to his 4th new team? He may have talent but Swift also has some head problems from what i understand, i dont know if the nets need that.

    And yeah I like the trade, but i am fearfull of what happens with Swat and JB now.
     
  3. King John da FiF

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 1 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Swift was that good would he really be going to his 4th new team? He may have talent but Swift also has some head problems from what i understand, i dont know if the nets need that.

    And yeah I like the trade, but i am fearfull of what happens with Swat and JB now.</div>
    He's only been traded twice and this would be his 3rd new team not his 4th. How many times has jason kidd been traded? Oh sh!t, he's about to get traded again.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 1 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Swift was that good would he really be going to his 4th new team? He may have talent but Swift also has some head problems from what i understand, i dont know if the nets need that.

    And yeah I like the trade, but i am fearfull of what happens with Swat and JB now.</div>

    Swift has no talent

    Going to the Nets would be his 3rd NBA team as he has had 2 stays in Memphis.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (King John da FiF @ Feb 1 2008, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 1 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Swift was that good would he really be going to his 4th new team? He may have talent but Swift also has some head problems from what i understand, i dont know if the nets need that.

    And yeah I like the trade, but i am fearfull of what happens with Swat and JB now.</div>
    He's only been traded twice and this would be his 3rd new team not his 4th. How many times has jason kidd been traded? Oh sh!t, he's about to get traded again.
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    Stro has only been traded once - from Houston to Memphis
     
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    ok I found out what's going on and why this is happening at first I thought Kiki drugged Memphis's GM or did an Isiah and has some pictures of him. What is really happening is that he is striking while he can. MEMPHIS IS HAVING A FIRE SALE !!

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>According to the CA and cbssports.com, the Grizzlies and the Nets are talking about a deal that would send Stromile Swift to the Nets for Jason Collins. I believe this to be completely true. I don't know if the deal will take place for sure, but I would think there is a really good chance. I don't even give a crap about that deal to be honest.

    <span style="color:#FF0000">What I do care about is the deal that also may come in the next few days. I don't think that we are going to be as happy as we once thought we would be about a Pau deal. I have pontificated on the fact that a fire sale could be coming so that Heisley can save money and position the team to sell it. I think he wants to be able to sell to someone and be able to pitch that they will takeover a product with quite a bit of flexibility that they can do whatever they want with. Unfortunately I think that Wallace was hired to carry out this plan. I hope I am wrong.

    There is nothing that Heisley has done in the past 2 years to indicate that he is doing anything but cutting back on all costs. Saving money is what this franchise is about now.

    With that being said, look for Pau to be part of a deal that brings back a big expiring contract. If what I think may go down, goes down, people are going to be really pissed. Have you ever considered what Kwame Brown would look like in a Grizzlies uni? I am just asking.</span>
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    source

    Pau in a Lakers uni w/ Bynum & Kobe I mean thanks Jerry West [​IMG]
     
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    Wow. I dislike Ratner for not willing to spend money to bring in talent, but getting rid of franchise guys before you sell the team is an entirely different animal.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 1 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (King John da FiF @ Feb 1 2008, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 1 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Swift was that good would he really be going to his 4th new team? He may have talent but Swift also has some head problems from what i understand, i dont know if the nets need that.

    And yeah I like the trade, but i am fearfull of what happens with Swat and JB now.</div>
    He's only been traded twice and this would be his 3rd new team not his 4th. How many times has jason kidd been traded? Oh sh!t, he's about to get traded again.
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    Stro has only been traded once - from Houston to Memphis
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    Explain the first move from memphis to houston. Basically what i'm saying is that he was moved only twice and not 3 times like the other guy previously stated.
     
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    wow, that makes all the difference. I am, like, totally changing my opinion on Swift now.
     
  10. cpawfan

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (King John da FiF @ Feb 1 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 1 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (King John da FiF @ Feb 1 2008, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 1 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Swift was that good would he really be going to his 4th new team? He may have talent but Swift also has some head problems from what i understand, i dont know if the nets need that.

    And yeah I like the trade, but i am fearfull of what happens with Swat and JB now.</div>
    He's only been traded twice and this would be his 3rd new team not his 4th. How many times has jason kidd been traded? Oh sh!t, he's about to get traded again.
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    Stro has only been traded once - from Houston to Memphis
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    Explain the first move from memphis to houston. Basically what i'm saying is that he was moved only twice and not 3 times like the other guy previously stated.
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    Have you heard of free agency? Swift signed with the Rockets as a free agent.

    Swift was told to go away by the Grizzlies and only reacquired because it got the Grizzlies Rudy Gay.
     
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    The Swift trade is either:

    a) An Attempt to keep Kidd happy in NJ with a High Flyer to throw Alley-Oops to

    [​IMG] I heard that it might be to free up cash or something to be able to trade Kidd

    c) Just a solid trade


    What do you think?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Feb 1 2008, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Swift trade is either:

    a) An Attempt to keep Kidd happy in NJ with a High Flyer to throw Alley-Oops to

    [​IMG] I heard that it might be to free up cash or something to be able to trade Kidd

    c) Just a solid trade


    What do you think?</div>

    [​IMG] & C
     
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    Ok I like the swift deal, however I dont like the fact that he is going to take PT away from the youngsters.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 1 2008, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok I like the swift deal, however I dont like the fact that he is going to take PT away from the youngsters.</div>

    he's a good help defender and would save our bigs from foul trouble & isn't a lamp post off the bench
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Feb 1 2008, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 1 2008, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok I like the swift deal, however I dont like the fact that he is going to take PT away from the youngsters.</div>

    he's a good help defender and would save our bigs from foul trouble & isn't a lamp post off the bench
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    Is he coming off the bench or what is he doing? Will the youngsters keep starting?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Feb 1 2008, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Swift trade is either:

    a) An Attempt to keep Kidd happy in NJ with a High Flyer to throw Alley-Oops to

    [​IMG] I heard that it might be to free up cash or something to be able to trade Kidd

    c) Just a solid trade


    What do you think?</div>

    D - rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. It makes zero basketball sense and zero locker room sense.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 1 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Feb 1 2008, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Swift trade is either:

    a) An Attempt to keep Kidd happy in NJ with a High Flyer to throw Alley-Oops to

    [​IMG] I heard that it might be to free up cash or something to be able to trade Kidd

    c) Just a solid trade


    What do you think?</div>

    D - rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. It makes zero basketball sense and zero locker room sense.
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    Argh, I say your ship be sinking.
     
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    There's no way Swift starts over Boone or Sean. Stop worrying.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Feb 1 2008, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There's no way Swift starts over Boone or Sean. Stop worrying.</div>

    You are such a party pooper
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 1 2008, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Feb 1 2008, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 1 2008, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok I like the swift deal, however I dont like the fact that he is going to take PT away from the youngsters.</div>

    he's a good help defender and would save our bigs from foul trouble & isn't a lamp post off the bench
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    Is he coming off the bench or what is he doing? Will the youngsters keep starting?
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    he doesn't even know what plays we run, absolutely not, if anything he starts off the bench and fills the roll Collins should have filled, what I'm interested about is when Nened returns who sits Boone or Williams, I love A-51 but it is his rookie season and I'd rather use him w/ Swift as an energy duo off the bench.
     

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