<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Feb 5 2008, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 5 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So let me understand this. You folks want Frank to put out on the court a notoriously dumb player that won't have a bloody clue about where he is suppose to be on the court because he can dunk. Boki can shoot and is Einstein compared to Swift and he sat on the bench after being acquired.</div> Big difference, Boki had accomplished zero before he got to the Nets and the Nets rotation at the time was a lot more set. Swift's actually been a double digit scorer in the league and they could use his athleticism against the Lakes, a team that puts up a lot more points than the Nets. And seriously, how difficult is the Nets offense? It's pick and roles, a few down screens, some isos for RJ and Vince and little else. There's a reason we only score 93 points a game. Plus Swift's pretty familiar with Gasol's moves after about 5 years of going against him in practice. It's another stubborn move from Frank and that's it. Maybe they'll be a candle lighting ceremony for Collins and Frank will give a eulogy. There could even be a 30-40 second montage that highlights all of Collins baskets made while a Net. Or maybe 20-seconds... </div> Stro barely was a double figure scorer twice in seven previous seasons. He is not a proven contributor to any winning team. Stro is a piss poor defender and then adding in the fact he wouldn't know where to be on the court, the Nets would likely give up 135 points to the Lakers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 5 2008, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 5 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So let me understand this. You folks want Frank to put out on the court a notoriously dumb player that won't have a bloody clue about where he is suppose to be on the court because he can dunk. Boki can shoot and is Einstein compared to Swift and he sat on the bench after being acquired.</div> yeah, yeah, yeah, save it. you also called mikki a journey man twig who cant remember plays </div> liar, liar, pants on fire
Actually Boki put up 8.1 points a game in 04-05 his first year in NO numbers he's slightly exceeded in the same amount of minutes with the Nets. But our rotation was pretty much set at the time of the trade.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Feb 5 2008, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 5 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So let me understand this. You folks want Frank to put out on the court a notoriously dumb player that won't have a bloody clue about where he is suppose to be on the court because he can dunk. Boki can shoot and is Einstein compared to Swift and he sat on the bench after being acquired.</div> Big difference, Boki had accomplished zero before he got to the Nets and the Nets rotation at the time was a lot more set. Swift's actually been a double digit scorer in the league and they could use his athleticism against the Lakes, a team that puts up a lot more points than the Nets. And seriously, how difficult is the Nets offense? It's pick and roles, a few down screens, some isos for RJ and Vince and little else. There's a reason we only score 93 points a game. Plus Swift's pretty familiar with Gasol's moves after about 5 years of going against him in practice. It's another stubborn move from Frank and that's it. Maybe they'll be a candle lighting ceremony for Collins and Frank will give a eulogy. There could even be a 30-40 second montage that highlights all of Collins baskets made while a Net. Or maybe 20-seconds... </div> Have you ever noticed the guys without the ball, on an offensive play for the Nets? Take notice next time. Look at where Sean and Boone are, look at spacing, look at how the play evolves, and look at what one big does when the other is setting the pick, or posting up. It's sometimes easy as you make it sound...and sometimes, it's too tough for even the players to figure out. I've seen a few plays where Sean or Josh obviously don't know where they're supposed to be. I'll let all that sink in while I go upstairs for some dinner.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kidd Karma @ Feb 5 2008, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Come on Frank and L is an L. Let the guy get his feet wet with live ammo. It doesn't help just sitting his ass on the bench.</div> ??????
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 5 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So let me understand this. You folks want Frank to put out on the court a notoriously dumb player that won't have a bloody clue about where he is suppose to be on the court because he can dunk.</div> Yes. Swift won't get any smarter on the bench.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 5 2008, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 5 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It would take the Nets trading for Duncan for Kidd to want to remain a Net.</div> Nets include 2008, 2010 first round picks </div> I think you misspelled "do it".
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L @ Feb 5 2008, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kidd Karma @ Feb 5 2008, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Come on Frank and L is an L. Let the guy get his feet wet with live ammo. It doesn't help just sitting his ass on the bench.</div> ?????? </div> ......hahaaha i forgot my meaning......then remembered a Loss is a Loss.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Feb 5 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Feb 5 2008, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 5 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So let me understand this. You folks want Frank to put out on the court a notoriously dumb player that won't have a bloody clue about where he is suppose to be on the court because he can dunk. Boki can shoot and is Einstein compared to Swift and he sat on the bench after being acquired.</div> Big difference, Boki had accomplished zero before he got to the Nets and the Nets rotation at the time was a lot more set. Swift's actually been a double digit scorer in the league and they could use his athleticism against the Lakes, a team that puts up a lot more points than the Nets. And seriously, how difficult is the Nets offense? It's pick and roles, a few down screens, some isos for RJ and Vince and little else. There's a reason we only score 93 points a game. Plus Swift's pretty familiar with Gasol's moves after about 5 years of going against him in practice. It's another stubborn move from Frank and that's it. Maybe they'll be a candle lighting ceremony for Collins and Frank will give a eulogy. There could even be a 30-40 second montage that highlights all of Collins baskets made while a Net. Or maybe 20-seconds... </div> Have you ever noticed the guys without the ball, on an offensive play for the Nets? Take notice next time. Look at where Sean and Boone are, look at spacing, look at how the play evolves, and look at what one big does when the other is setting the pick, or posting up. It's sometimes easy as you make it sound...and sometimes, it's too tough for even the players to figure out. I've seen a few plays where Sean or Josh obviously don't know where they're supposed to be. I'll let all that sink in while I go upstairs for some dinner. </div> I've seen more than a few plays where no one knows what's going on. This team doesn't execute, but it doesn't mean it's because the Nets have some intricate offense, that's a cop out. It's because we have guys that don't mesh and can't shoot from the outside and can't post anyone up and score. And guys like Collins who couldn't do anything after setting a screen and guys like Allen who can pick and pop, but not roll because he can't finish at the hoop. And guys like Boone and Williams who can roll, but not pop (at least consistently). We have guys forcing passes and guys with little experience. There's no reason Swift couldn't have played tonight and come out and run some pick and rolls and been successful at it. Those of you that think otherwise have obviously never played organized ball before. You give the guy a few run throughs, tell him who he's covering, where he needs to be position wise, and let him play. You guys act like he's some "special needs" student. He's not splitting atoms out there, it's basketball. Geez.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kidd Karma @ Feb 5 2008, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Actually Boki put up 8.1 points a game in 04-05 his first year in NO numbers he's slightly exceeded in the same amount of minutes with the Nets. But our rotation was pretty much set at the time of the trade.</div> Yes, but in the season he was traded he was shooting 34% from the field and averaging only 5 points a game. And he'd never shot 40% from the field in any season. At that point he was considered more of a first round bust than Swift ever was.
