Stupid trade for both team imo. Obvious reasons for Phoenix, but Miami to. Marion can get them what, best case senerio 8th spot in the East. If they would have played out the season, they would have gotten a top 5 pick and a shot at either Derrick Rose or Beasley, and could have been contending for a championship within 3 years, now they ruined it. marion isn't exactly a proven winner, this guy had Amare and Joe Johnson on his side, and he still couldn't get Pheonix to the playoffs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Answer_AI03 @ Feb 6 2008, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dont really get this trade at all...</div> Me neither, reeks of desperation. Couldn't the Nets have offered RJ or Kristic, Magloire and picks and gotten this done?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Feb 6 2008, 03:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. J @ Feb 6 2008, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can't find a modicum of logic behind this trade for the Suns. Shaq is old. Shaq is injury prone. Shaq is declining. Shaq is expensive. Shaq is not a good fit for the Suns' offense. Marion is much younger. Marion is durable. Marion is at his prime. Marion is making a decent salary. Marion is a good fit for the Suns' offense.</div> Marion makes about 17 mil. You forgot the issue why they are probably making this trade: chemistry. </div> Chemistry don't play defense, holmes. They weren't a great defensive team last year, and that was BEFORE they traded Kurt Thomas and Marion away. So now that they've got Shaq, Amare and Nash all playing 40 mpg, who'll play defense? And on top of that, how are Shaq and Nash going to co-exist in an offense? Will Shaq speed up (and destroy his knees) or will Nash slow down (and destroy the offense)? How does any of this make sense?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Feb 6 2008, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Stupid trade for both team imo. Obvious reasons for Phoenix, but Miami to. Marion can get them what, best case senerio 8th spot in the East. If they would have played out the season, they would have gotten a top 5 pick and a shot at either Derrick Rose or Beasley, and could have been contending for a championship within 3 years, now they ruined it. marion isn't exactly a proven winner, this guy had Amare and Joe Johnson on his side, and he still couldn't get Pheonix to the playoffs.</div> The Heat are better off getting a proven player than banking on a top draft pick. The only negative I see from this trade is Marion's ability to opt out of his contract next season. But if he does, the Heat lose about $17M from the cap. Even if the Suns deem it necessary to trade Marion, they could have gotten a much better deal than an overpaid, over-the-hill Shaq. Hell, trading for an expiring contract would have been more beneficial to the Suns. Especially for the Suns who have been obsessed with not paying luxury tax.
Done in response to Gasol. they're sayiing that Amare should be a PF in this league. But geez in the Suns scheme he's the perfect center. i thought they should have pushed for AK47. The guy defends and fills the lane on the break. I thnk they're desperate. Plus I'm hearing Sarver-Kerr wants to put their stamp on the team.....D'Antoni may also be on a shortleash.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. J @ Feb 6 2008, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Feb 6 2008, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Stupid trade for both team imo. Obvious reasons for Phoenix, but Miami to. Marion can get them what, best case senerio 8th spot in the East. If they would have played out the season, they would have gotten a top 5 pick and a shot at either Derrick Rose or Beasley, and could have been contending for a championship within 3 years, now they ruined it. marion isn't exactly a proven winner, this guy had Amare and Joe Johnson on his side, and he still couldn't get Pheonix to the playoffs.</div> The Heat are better off getting a proven player than banking on a top draft pick. The only negative I see from this trade is Marion's ability to opt out of his contract next season. But if he does, the Heat lose about $17M from the cap. Even if the Suns deem it necessary to trade Marion, they could have gotten a much better deal than an overpaid, over-the-hill Shaq. Hell, trading for an expiring contract would have been more beneficial to the Suns. Especially for the Suns who have been obsessed with not paying luxury tax. </div> Dallas was rumored to be interested in Shaq too. This keeps him away from a front court of him, Dirk & Josh Howard. -Petey
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Feb 6 2008, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Stupid trade for both team imo. Obvious reasons for Phoenix, but Miami to. Marion can get them what, best case senerio 8th spot in the East. If they would have played out the season, they would have gotten a top 5 pick and a shot at either Derrick Rose or Beasley, and could have been contending for a championship within 3 years, now they ruined it. marion isn't exactly a proven winner, this guy had Amare and Joe Johnson on his side, and he still couldn't get Pheonix to the playoffs.</div> You could think of it from this way: Miami wasn't going anywhere with Shaq. They did this trade purely for financial reasons. Whether it's at the end of this season or the next, Marion's coming off their payroll, while Shaq would have a few more seasons left with that heeefty contract.
Amare lets opposing players score at will on him. The Suns aren't built for the playoffs because they can't play defense. But they think Shaq can change that? This isn't 2002, Shaq is DONE. Miami would pull off robbery with this deal. No wonder Riley is waiting on the Suns to say yes. I bet he's got his fingers crossed, and drooling.
It's a good move for PHX Anyway. He's like David Beckham, everyone knows him and imagine all the jersey sales. And he's amazing when actually on form.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Feb 6 2008, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How long until Shaq talks about how Nash is the best teammate he's ever had?</div> One practice. Then after four practices, he'll say that Sean Marks has passed Michael Doleac for the best backup center he has ever had.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Feb 6 2008, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How long until Shaq talks about how Nash is the best teammate he's ever had?</div> Apparently Shaq has already contacted Steve Nash and gave him this message ... "I won't let you down." Famous last words.
I can see them winning the championship. 5 teams that have a chance. (are contenders) : Pistons, Celtics, Spurs, Suns, Lakers. Everyone else can only dream.
True huevonkiller, but I think the Suns are only thinking about this season and then will look to break the team (makes trades, etc) after the season is over. Or they can keep Shaq, if he is successful with them.
I am beyond PISSED! I'm a die-hard Suns fan and I'll be DAMNED if I ever buy a Shaq Phoenix Suns jersey We were FINE without him and I KNOW we could've won last year, but it's just those damn CHEATER Spurs got away with everything. But now...we get Shaq““ UGH!!!!!!!!!
