Sheesh. One kid tries to muster up the littlest bit of (blind) optimism he has, and everyone jumps on him and brings 'em down to reality. I feel your pain, bro. I guess we should just accept that the Nets suck right now. Like, really bad. Even the future looks dim....well, until we trade Kidd.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Feb 8 2008, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sheesh. One kid tries to muster up the littlest bit of (blind) optimism he has, and everyone jumps on him and brings 'em down to reality. I feel your pain, bro. I guess we should just accept that the Nets suck right now. Like, really bad. Even the future looks dim....well, until we trade Kidd.</div> We're a reflection of our team and following the lead of Captain Kidd!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Feb 8 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 8 2008, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The situation is much worse than you make it out to be Also, do Yugo's race in NASCAR? That is the equivalent of Jared Jordan in the NBA.</div> umm... huh? </div> Yugo's are cars. Compared to NASCAR cars, they're really, really slow. AKA not built for NASCAR... Yugo -> NASCAR = Jared Jordan -> NBA
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 8 2008, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Feb 8 2008, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sheesh. One kid tries to muster up the littlest bit of (blind) optimism he has, and everyone jumps on him and brings 'em down to reality. I feel your pain, bro. I guess we should just accept that the Nets suck right now. Like, really bad. Even the future looks dim....well, until we trade Kidd.</div> We're a reflection of our team and following the lead of Captain Kidd! </div> Kidd's not really trying right now. Gotta be honest about all of this, right now, Kidd's playing like a player that wants to be traded. And our team's not really playing like a team right now.
I remember when I used to be this optimistic of the team. Then three games into this season we played the Raptors.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 8 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember when I used to be this optimistic of the team. Then three games into this season we played the Raptors.</div> no you were optimistic until like the 35th game
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 8 2008, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 8 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember when I used to be this optimistic of the team. Then three games into this season we played the Raptors.</div> no you were optimistic until like the 35th game </div> haha thats when it got so bad I had to start a thread about it. I should probably update that, now that the season has really gone down the crapper.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheKidHypno @ Feb 8 2008, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol@carter being a nice guy he curses out little kids who chase him for autographs</div> oh, right, I forgot the internet rule that you assume everyone is an asshole until proven otherwise, and you distort anecdotal evidence when it enforces negative opinions. Silly me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 8 2008, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Feb 8 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 8 2008, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The situation is much worse than you make it out to be Also, do Yugo's race in NASCAR? That is the equivalent of Jared Jordan in the NBA.</div> umm... huh? </div> What is it that you don't understand? </div> The last Yugo stopped running in 1985, you old coot.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 8 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember when I used to be this optimistic of the team. Then three games into this season we played the Raptors.</div> Optimism = good Denial = Bad. easy
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 8 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember when I used to be this optimistic of the team. Then three games into this season we played the Raptors.</div> I believe that was the 2nd game of the season but nevertheless the Nets went on to win 3 games straight after that and then yeah Carter's injury came and the team went downhill losing 6 straight.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Balla 15 @ Feb 9 2008, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 8 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember when I used to be this optimistic of the team. Then three games into this season we played the Raptors.</div> I believe that was the 2nd game of the season but nevertheless the Nets went on to win 3 games straight after that and then yeah Carter's injury came and the team went downhill losing 6 straight. </div> That game was rough. After knocking them out of the playoffs not 6 months ago, we get completely blown out; ushering an era where this result meets our expectations.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 8 2008, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Feb 8 2008, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Feb 8 2008, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 8 2008, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>--Kidd is going through the motions. There are so many talented players in this league, that attitude can make all the difference between success and failure. --Carter may need surgery on his ankle. [PLEASE STOP BLAMING CARTER! He's hurt. If he stopped playing, you'd all whine about how he wasn't a gamer and bring out that half-a-season stuff. You can't have it both ways. After the past two seasons, he deserves the benefit of the doubt that he's trying as hard as he can]</div> I give Carter a lot of credit for playing through injury, and stand by the evaluation that he doesn't have the mental makeup to be a 14 million dollar part of a championship-level team. He's a nice guy who would is only playing basketball because he's incredibly talented, and the job is incredibly lucrative. He has no unnatural passion for the game - that doesn't make him a bad person, it just makes him a bad investment. </div> I agree completely. There's players in the league who have a love for the game and would play in the NBA for free and would be greatful for being paid minimum wage for playing a game that they love. Then there's people like Carter who are only in the game for the fat paycheck.. </div> that's unfair. you are suggesting that unless you yell and scream and trash-talk you aren't passionate about what you do? He just has a different mental makeup. Boone is also quiet and introspective; it's interesting that he heard the same talk before the draft. Just because you don't have the personality to be a vocal leader doesn't mean that you aren't talented or that you don't play as hard as you can. </div> Hey now... Tim Duncan is incredibly mentally tough. Shawn Marion isn't mentally tough, per say, but he's certainly got the mental makeup to be a key member on a championship level team. Ray Allen is going to be HUGE in the playoffs for Boston. Hell, even Kobe's an introvert. It's not a question of introvert versus extrovert, it's a question of what priority basketball is in your life. Carter shows no commitment to running the floor, and no commitment to defense. He is, in the context of a basketball court, flat out lazy. It isn't a Kidd situation, where his knees are giving out - he's got the physical talent to be a GREAT defender, and he's just never bothered to put any effort into improving this area of his game. He could be an AMAZING transition player, but I've never seen him beat ANYONE down the floor. These are, by and large, effort plays. Same goes for his soap opera-esque, on-again off-again love affair with his jump shot. The only thing separating Dwayne Wade from Vince Carter is the will to put their bodies on the line. You can't even call it self-preservation, because Vince won't even turn it on at the end of the game. It doesn't make him a bad person. It just means that if basketball paid the same as any desk job, he'd probably be doing something else. He doesn't have an obsession with winning, or even a strong desire to pull his team up (which, at his contract number, he should). He is, essentially, a role player. And role players shouldn't make 14 million a year, no matter how fancy their layups are.
I never knew role players got doubled teamed and made their teammates much better than they really are.
I do not think New Jersey will make the playoffs, this team just doesn't know how to get it done and Lawrence Frank should not still have a job. This team is led by Jason Kidd who's surrounded by two very talented scorers in RJ and VC and some solid role-players, they should be putting up much more than only 93 PPG. Chicago and Philly are right on your tail, I expect one of them to make it, most likely the Bulls when they get healthy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Feb 9 2008, 02:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey now... Tim Duncan is incredibly mentally tough. Shawn Marion isn't mentally tough, per say, but he's certainly got the mental makeup to be a key member on a championship level team. Ray Allen is going to be HUGE in the playoffs for Boston. Hell, even Kobe's an introvert. It's not a question of introvert versus extrovert, it's a question of what priority basketball is in your life. Carter shows no commitment to running the floor, and no commitment to defense. He is, in the context of a basketball court, flat out lazy. It isn't a Kidd situation, where his knees are giving out - he's got the physical talent to be a GREAT defender, and he's just never bothered to put any effort into improving this area of his game. He could be an AMAZING transition player, but I've never seen him beat ANYONE down the floor. These are, by and large, effort plays. Same goes for his soap opera-esque, on-again off-again love affair with his jump shot. The only thing separating Dwayne Wade from Vince Carter is the will to put their bodies on the line. You can't even call it self-preservation, because Vince won't even turn it on at the end of the game. It doesn't make him a bad person. It just means that if basketball paid the same as any desk job, he'd probably be doing something else. He doesn't have an obsession with winning, or even a strong desire to pull his team up (which, at his contract number, he should). He is, essentially, a role player. And role players shouldn't make 14 million a year, no matter how fancy their layups are.</div> Tim Duncan isn't very mentally tough, he is pretty passive. Gregg Popovich is mentally tough though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Feb 9 2008, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tim Duncan isn't very mentally tough, he is pretty passive. Gregg Popovich is mentally tough though.</div> Um. I don't understand where you're coming from, at all. And I don't find the first sentence to be true at all.
