Arenas takes a shot at Jose, gets bombarded by fanatical Raps fans

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  1. Dre

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Feb 12 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>By Arenas definition "That means, if you take him off the team, that team should fall down if he’s that one guy," I guess Arenas shouldn't be considered an All-Star either. His team was winning more without him on the court.</div>

    Misconception. They've had a few hot streaks, but for the most part they're an average team without him in the long run. They're in the midst of a what, 6 game losing streak?

    It seems like it's becoming in to suggest Arenas isn't need by the Wiz, but it's not the case.
     
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  2. Shapecity

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dre @ Feb 13 2008, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Feb 12 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>By Arenas definition "That means, if you take him off the team, that team should fall down if he’s that one guy," I guess Arenas shouldn't be considered an All-Star either. His team was winning more without him on the court.</div>

    Misconception. They've had a few hot streaks, but for the most part they're an average team without him in the long run. They're in the midst of a what, 6 game losing streak?

    It seems like it's becoming in to suggest Arenas isn't need by the Wiz, but it's not the case.
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    Midst of a 6 game losing streak with both Caron Butler and Antonio Daniels also injured. It's not a misconception the team has played better without him this season as a 'team.'
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Feb 13 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Feb 13 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Don't worry, Sam Mitchell knows who the better pointguard is, and he'll make sure that once healthy, Ford will start.

    And obviously Kidd single handedly pwns them both in the same game.</div>

    exactly what area is Ford better than Calderon at? Besides their paychecks
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    defensively, ford is a lot better, calderon's one huge weak spot is his defense
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Feb 13 2008, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 13 2008, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Feb 13 2008, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 13 2008, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Feb 13 2008, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Feb 13 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How did you determine that isn't all-star worthy?</div>

    Because when Ford is healthy Calderon is a backup pg?

    J-Kidd pwns any Spanish players.
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    Calderon has slightly outperformed Ford in per ball possession ratings this year.

    Toronto having two All-Star caliber PGs (when healthy) could be another case.
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    Did you say TWO all-star pgs?

    Ford definitely is not that....

    Calderon is good and may make it to an all-star game or two, but this year wasnt his year, who are you gonna take off the team for him? Sheed? I guess but people need to stop whining about so and so not making the all-star team. move on with your life.
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    First, I did not say Ford was definitely an All-Star, merely that his per possession efficiency is at a high enough level to make him a pseudo-star. Of course he hasn't played nearly enough minutes and Calderon is superior. Either way, Calderon would not ride the bench if Ford was healthy.
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    I don't think Ford should even start in front of Calderon when he gets healthy. Calderon is far superior than Ford.
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    I was addressing a previous post from Universe. He made that claim. Get it now?
     
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    Gilbert Arenas is an idiot
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Feb 12 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>By Arenas definition "That means, if you take him off the team, that team should fall down if he’s that one guy," I guess Arenas shouldn't be considered an All-Star either. His team was winning more without him on the court.</div>

    That's not true at all. Last year when all of our big three was healthy we had a better record than we've come close to this season and were leading the conference. We didn't fall apart when Arenas went out but we certainly didn't become a better or more talented team.
     
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    ^ Exactly, the point I was making.
     
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    Gilbert has his opinion, if we all agree with all of it, we will all turn into high54life, loving a player for everything and anything he does

    Accept his opinion, hes not right, hes not wrong, i disagree but i don't control his opinion
    Raps fans can be mad that Jose was compared to Kevin Ollie, besides that, nothing

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    Yeah... those comments are good for nothing but a laugh. + if Jose can build on this season and improve even more by this time next season he should have even stronger consideration for the ASG.

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    Gilbert's blog is good for a laugh, personally I think Calderon's performance is all-star worthy but I could see why he is not participating but by no means is Calderon a scrub...he is a top 5-10 PG in the league IMO. Calderon over Ford anyday! but keep both
     
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    I know this is totally irrelevant, but does anyone know how I can watch the Man Utd. vs Arsenal game on Sat for those who live near GTA?
     
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