<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Feb 13 2008, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LOL The thought crossed my mind that he doesn't want to live in New Jersey.</div> there's this small, quaint little town just seven miles from the Izod Center. I'm sure George wouldnt mind living in a place I like to call NYC.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AEM @ Feb 13 2008, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^ The full section cpaw quoted, to that point, is: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>85. When can't a player be traded? Can players be given "no-trade" clauses in their contracts? A "no-trade" clause can be negotiated into an individual contract if the player has been in the NBA for at least eight seasons, and has played for the team with which he is signing for at least four seasons. They don't have to be the immediately prior four seasons -- for example, Horace Grant got a no-trade clause from Orlando when he signed with them in 2001. He had played for Orlando for four seasons, but had played for Seattle and Los Angeles in the interim. Very few players actually have one of these no-trade provisions. Otherwise, individually negotiated contracts may not contain no-trade clauses. The no-trade clause prevents the team from making a trade involving the player without the player's consent. In addition, teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances: * For two months after receiving the player in trade or claiming him off waivers, if the player is being traded in combination with other players. However, the team is free to trade the player by himself (not packaged with other players) immediately. This restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap. (Also see question number 72 for a special case where players can be traded together in less than two months.) * When the trading deadline has passed. Teams are free to make trades again once their season has ended, but cannot trade players whose contracts are ending or could end due to an option or ETO. * For three months or until December 15th of that season (whichever is later) after signing a contract as a free agent. This obviously does not apply to the trade completing a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 76). Interestingly, however, it is unclear whether this rule prevents a player who has been signed-and-traded from being traded agiain prior to three months/December 15 (see question number 80). * For 30 days after signing as a draft pick. * Without the player's consent when the player is playing under a one-year contract (excluding any option year) and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the season. This includes first round draft picks following their fourth (option) season, who accept their team's qualifying offer for their fifth season. When the player consents to such a trade, the team loses its Larry Bird/Early Bird rights, and the player is considered a Non-Bird free agent. Note: when there is an option year involved, they can get around this regulation by invoking the option prior to the trade.</div> </div> Thanks, AEM. That clarifies the situation. Still am quite surprised that Devean George managed to get such a clause, though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thedude9990 @ Feb 13 2008, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>bayonnes not a bad city to live in lol.</div> you live in bayonne? I gotta disagree though, this city's goin down the tubes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Feb 13 2008, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks, AEM. That clarifies the situation. Still am quite surprised that Devean George managed to get such a clause, though.</div> Glad I could help. From what I've read, getting that clause was a big part of why he re-signed with Dallas, as no other team would have had that option. Not that he was in such high demand to begin with...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Feb 13 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 13 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Damn Here is the info from the CBA FAQ #85 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Without the player's consent when the player is playing under a one-year contract (excluding any option year) and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the season. This includes first round draft picks following their fourth (option) season, who accept their team's qualifying offer for their fifth season. When the player consents to such a trade, the team loses its Larry Bird/Early Bird rights, and the player is considered a Non-Bird free agent. Note: when there is an option year involved, they can get around this regulation by invoking the option prior to the trade.</div> George is in his second season with Dallas which means he would have Early Bird rights </div> I haven't seen the CBA, but that passage looks incomplete. The first sentence isn't even a sentence but a prepositional phrase with a dependent clause. Something important must be missing. In any event, the following news reports that it is a right in his contract itself, not one arising by virtue of the CBA: http://startelegram.typepad.com/mavs_fullc...-i-dont-th.html </div> As stated it is from the CBA FAQ, not the CBA itself. Larry Coon, the author of the FAQ has extremely good contacts within the NBA and the FAQ has been reviewed by experts. Additionally, the vast majority of newspaper writers don't know the CBA and as a former subscriber of the Fort Worth Star Telegram, I know they don't have anyone that knows it. I realize that since I posted it you'll never believe it, but it is fine with me if you want to be wrong.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AEM @ Feb 13 2008, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Feb 13 2008, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks, AEM. That clarifies the situation. Still am quite surprised that Devean George managed to get such a clause, though.</div> Glad I could help. From what I've read, getting that clause was a big part of why he re-signed with Dallas, as no other team would have had that option. Not that he was in such high demand to begin with... </div> George was under contract with Dallas the season before and turned down a player option for the season. By re-signing with Dallas, he automatically got this.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 13 2008, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I realize that since I posted it you'll never believe it, but it is fine with me if you want to be wrong.</div> The post above by AEM just shows that you WERE wrong. Do you not understand that the right he exercised was a CONTRACTUAL RIGHT, negotiated and appearing in actual ink somewhere on a document with his signature?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Feb 13 2008, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'></div> Now time to resize...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Feb 13 2008, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 13 2008, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I realize that since I posted it you'll never believe it, but it is fine with me if you want to be wrong.</div> The post above by AEM just shows that you WERE wrong. Do you not understand that the right he exercised was a CONTRACTUAL RIGHT, negotiated and appearing in actual ink somewhere on a document with his signature? </div> You aren't understanding all of the information. George does not have this as a contractual right (i.e. a negotiated no trade clause) Reread what was said in the link you posted. Here is the important part <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If he does agree to be traded he then loses his early Bird rights</div> Now read all of #85 http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#85 The only time a player can lose their early Bird rights is in the part I first quoted. If George had a negotiated no trade clause, there would be no fear of losing his early Bird rights.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Feb 13 2008, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'></div> We should get Jason Collins to goon him up. Shit, wait...we don't have him any more
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Feb 13 2008, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 13 2008, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Feb 13 2008, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vinc3fo3 @ Feb 13 2008, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well this is just...weird. I'm new to S2, obviously, found this after BBB.net died. Hi all!</div> Welcome. PM me for any questions, because I'm cool. </div> Right there, you're lying. </div> No, I'm ly_yng. </div> that's classic. Nice job!
