Miller is not worth a first round draft pick. They should be happy with cap space since they gave Gasol away for Pokemon cards.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 19 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So the Grizz would trade Gasol for the Lakers 1st, but they want our 1st instead of the Mavs for Miller? The Mavs pick is already going to be better than the Lakers pick.</div> Well the Griz also got Crit and another first in the deal Other than a first round pick, the Nets have nothing to offer that tops Crit </div> And Miker Miller isn't Pau Gaosl.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 19 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So the Grizz would trade Gasol for the Lakers 1st, but they want our 1st instead of the Mavs for Miller? The Mavs pick is already going to be better than the Lakers pick.</div> Well the Griz also got Crit and another first in the deal Other than a first round pick, the Nets have nothing to offer that tops Crit </div> That's because Miller, while good, is not an All-Star bigman. Of course Gasol would cost more.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 19 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wouldnt be surprised if there was another trade, but I would be very surprised if it's Carter or Jefferson. I could see the Nets trying for someone like Gerald Green or J.J. Redick with one of those players, sending a pick and a TE. Miller sounds awfully complicated. Brian Cardinal? Please. And by the way, $3 million in cash could come in very handy as well. The Nets shipped out $1.5 million to the Hornets to take Ilic and Robinson off our hands...and paid Gill and Thomas $200K. So maybe Ratner will let the team use the remainder to sweeten a deal. I cannot believe how much Cuban threw into this trade.</div> It wasn't proposed because of admiration for his game but rather out of a realization that Memphis is cutting every penny they can and that Hassell will cost 4.4M less than Cardinal over the next two years. I personally feel Cardinal has a little more to offer this particular team, and if it was enough of an inducement to get the deal for Miller done without relinquishing a first round pick, well worth it. Out of curiosity, why would you be very surprised if Carter was dealt? The Internet is swirling with varied reports that NJ is shopping him hard. Is it just his contract that you feel will keep him here at least through this season?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 19 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 19 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So the Grizz would trade Gasol for the Lakers 1st, but they want our 1st instead of the Mavs for Miller? The Mavs pick is already going to be better than the Lakers pick.</div> Well the Griz also got Crit and another first in the deal Other than a first round pick, the Nets have nothing to offer that tops Crit </div> That's because Miller, while good, is not an All-Star bigman. Of course Gasol would cost more. </div> Not as many teams were bidding on Gasol either. Supply, demand, you know the drill
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 19 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 19 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So the Grizz would trade Gasol for the Lakers 1st, but they want our 1st instead of the Mavs for Miller? The Mavs pick is already going to be better than the Lakers pick.</div> Well the Griz also got Crit and another first in the deal Other than a first round pick, the Nets have nothing to offer that tops Crit </div> That's because Miller, while good, is not an All-Star bigman. Of course Gasol would cost more. </div> Not as many teams were bidding on Gasol either. Supply, demand, you know the drill </div> There are other players available besides Mike Miller. Teams are bidding because they can't wait to rip off Wallace. If they can't do it, the bidders will dry up.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 19 2008, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 19 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 19 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So the Grizz would trade Gasol for the Lakers 1st, but they want our 1st instead of the Mavs for Miller? The Mavs pick is already going to be better than the Lakers pick.</div> Well the Griz also got Crit and another first in the deal Other than a first round pick, the Nets have nothing to offer that tops Crit </div> That's because Miller, while good, is not an All-Star bigman. Of course Gasol would cost more. </div> Not as many teams were bidding on Gasol either. Supply, demand, you know the drill </div> There are other players available besides Mike Miller. Teams are bidding because they can't wait to rip off Wallace. If they can't do it, the bidders will dry up. </div> Name the other shooters in his price range that teams are willing to give up
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 19 2008, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 19 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 19 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So the Grizz would trade Gasol for the Lakers 1st, but they want our 1st instead of the Mavs for Miller? The Mavs pick is already going to be better than the Lakers pick.</div> Well the Griz also got Crit and another first in the deal Other than a first round pick, the Nets have nothing to offer that tops Crit </div> That's because Miller, while good, is not an All-Star bigman. Of course Gasol would cost more. </div> Not as many teams were bidding on Gasol either. Supply, demand, you know the drill </div> There are other players available besides Mike Miller. Teams are bidding because they can't wait to rip off Wallace. If they can't do it, the bidders will dry up. </div> Name the other shooters in his price range that teams are willing to give up </div> Doesn't that also depend on the price? They are buzzing around Memphis because they smell "fire sale". If the cost for Miller becomes high enough, people who were not available might all of a sudden come into play.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 19 2008, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Doesn't that also depend on the price? They are buzzing around Memphis because they smell "fire sale". If the cost for Miller becomes high enough, people who were not available might all of a sudden come into play.</div> Sorry, salary is what I meant by price
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 19 2008, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Doesn't that also depend on the price? They are buzzing around Memphis because they smell "fire sale". If the cost for Miller becomes high enough, people who were not available might all of a sudden come into play.</div> Sorry, salary is what I meant by price </div> Just Jamal Crawford, then. (And a maybe for Caron Butler.) There are younger players that can be had cheaper if Memphis is asking for too much, though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 19 2008, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 19 2008, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Doesn't that also depend on the price? They are buzzing around Memphis because they smell "fire sale". If the cost for Miller becomes high enough, people who were not available might all of a sudden come into play.</div> Sorry, salary is what I meant by price </div> Cuttino Mobley is comparable, not as good but comparable and has really been playing well this year for the Clippers. Makes about the same as Miller for the same term (2 years after this one). But he's 32 whereas (just checked) Mike Miller turned 28 today. So I don't give up anything more than this year's Mav's 1st rounder for Mobley whereas I'd give a lottery protected NJ 1st rounder this year for Miller.
Artest, Gordon, Pietrus, Giriceck, Jason Williams, Ricky Davis all on the market could impact Miller's value in some way. When you look at the potential suitors for Miller (Nets, Heat, Nuggets, Cavs, Rockets) the Mavs pick is pretty comperable. Miami won't give up their 1st this year.
