[/quote] There are educated quality risks and then there are stupd risks. The Knicks usually do the later. My opinion is that taking on Nene is the later. Sounds like a move just to make a move. The type of move people make on playstation because it's easy to hit reset. [/quote] Netted - When we got Jason Kidd, it was a risk, granted we knew he was a great player, but who knew he was going to make the nets relevant again? I didn't. Maybe Nene will work, maybe it won't. I doubt we get him anyways. It's an idea that has a bit of substance with some rumors, so I thought I would throw it out there. I want to hear others opinions on how to improve the team. Pegs - just noticed your syracuse post. Do you go to SU? Now that's a team that frustrates me even more...and playing with a 6 or 7 man rotation is ridiculous.
Last night, Ben Gordon came around a screen on the baseline with RJ trailing him and Boone left his man to cut off the play. Then Boone's man rolled to the hoop and got an uncontested dunk. Nets fans everywhere cursed Josh Boone for being stupid and leaving his man wide open. Mark Jackson then correctly broke it down. It was VINCE CARTER'S responsibility to rotate to Boone's man. He was picking his nose facing the wrong direction on the other side of the paint. Is that a big deal? Not really, but Boone sure is getting a lot of undeserved crap in this thread from people who's opinions on this kind of thing I suspect aren't worth a bucket of spit.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 21 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You are a Swift lover, and Swift is in back of Boone what else needs to be said about you? Agian he is the best big on this roster, and that means yes he is better than your boy Swift sorry but it's true. As far as Kidd allmost getting a triple double last night what #'s are you looking at?</div> <span style="color:#FF0000">This is the last time I'm going to be nice about you calling someone a Player X lover. Next time it will be a suspension</span>
Excuse me, but any NBA athlete who is tall can get 15 rebounds if he plays the whole game. [/quote] Ghoti, you can argue with me all you want, I have free time until 1:30 so thats fine. Obviously Boone has some skill, I'm kinda tired of discussing that issue. Petey is also right with Kristic taking away his rebounds once he is fully recovered from his injury. Marginal players do well on average teams. Boone is that kinda guy...And again, I can be completely wrong and he may turn into a stud, but who knows
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 21 2008, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 21 2008, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>--How many second-year or rookie big men start for their team, or play 25 minutes off the bench? --How many are putting up numbers significantly better than Boone? --How many are consistently (important word) better defensively? --How many of those were selected in the top five or eight in the draft? Especially for where he was drafted, Boone compares pretty well. Obviously his game has weaknesses. Some of that may be due to the fact that, unlike nearly all other first-round draft picks, he was not a focal point on offense in college. He's never been "the man." He has a lot to learn, but he seems pretty smart, and he is still pretty young. I'm not one to blindly heap praise on all the Nets players. However, look at the improvement Josh has made since the beginning of last year. How he's a valuable rotation player, and many fans thought he would never even be that. I look forward to seeing him in another year and a half.</div> Excuse me, but any NBA athlete who is tall can get 15 rebounds if he plays the whole game. </div> hahahaahahahahahahaha.... Eddy Curry! As for Nene... Hilarious! He sucks. I would expound on this but honestly I just don't feel like it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (giantcuseman @ Feb 21 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'> Excuse me, but any NBA athlete who is tall can get 15 rebounds if he plays the whole game.</div> Ghoti, you can argue with me all you want, I have free time until 1:30 so thats fine. Obviously Boone has some skill, I'm kinda tired of discussing that issue. Petey is also right with Kristic taking away his rebounds once he is fully recovered from his injury. Marginal players do well on average teams. Boone is that kinda guy...And again, I can be completely wrong and he may turn into a stud, but who knows </div> Who's arguing with you? I'm just posting what you posted.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 21 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 21 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You are a Swift lover, and Swift is in back of Boone what else needs to be said about you? Agian he is the best big on this roster, and that means yes he is better than your boy Swift sorry but it's true. As far as Kidd allmost getting a triple double last night what #'s are you looking at?</div> <span style="color:#FF0000">This is the last time I'm going to be nice about you calling someone a Player X lover. Next time it will be a suspension</span> </div> I'm a player X lover. name change? Joey FistPump Do It.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (giantcuseman @ Feb 21 2008, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Swift is better than Boone at this stage in their NBA careers. It's not that Swift is this old man who can't play, he is only 28!</div> Swift has never in his NBA career been better than Boone. Swift was drafted on potential and has never come close to living up to any of it. Yes, he is a better athlete than Boone, but Stro is also dumber than a box of rocks
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (giantcuseman @ Feb 21 2008, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'> There are educated quality risks and then there are stupd risks. The Knicks usually do the later. My opinion is that taking on Nene is the later. Sounds like a move just to make a move. The type of move people make on playstation because it's easy to hit reset.</div> Netted - When we got Jason Kidd, it was a risk, granted we knew he was a great player, but who knew he was going to make the nets relevant again? I didn't. Maybe Nene will work, maybe it won't. I doubt we get him anyways. It's an idea that has a bit of substance with some rumors, so I thought I would throw it out there. I want to hear others opinions on how to improve the team. Pegs - just noticed your syracuse post. Do you go to SU? Now that's a team that frustrates me even more...and playing with a 6 or 7 man rotation is ridiculous. </div> first off stop putting / in your first quote tag. I absolutely loved the Kidd trade when it happened. I was dancing in my living room. He had proven production and minimal injury history. Exact opposite of Nene. Nene is a much bigger risk. It's the type of risk the Knicks took with both Curry and Randolph.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Feb 21 2008, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 21 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 21 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You are a Swift lover, and Swift is in back of Boone what else needs to be said about you? Agian he is the best big on this roster, and that means yes he is better than your boy Swift sorry but it's true. As far as Kidd allmost getting a triple double last night what #'s are you looking at?</div> <span style="color:#FF0000">This is the last time I'm going to be nice about you calling someone a Player X lover. Next time it will be a suspension</span> </div> I'm a player X lover. name change? Joey FistPump Do It. </div> Sorry home sick today and yesterday. I'm more awake today, so I'll get it done
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 21 2008, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Feb 21 2008, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 21 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 21 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You are a Swift lover, and Swift is in back of Boone what else needs to be said about you? Agian he is the best big on this roster, and that means yes he is better than your boy Swift sorry but it's true. As far as Kidd allmost getting a triple double last night what #'s are you looking at?</div> <span style="color:#FF0000">This is the last time I'm going to be nice about you calling someone a Player X lover. Next time it will be a suspension</span> </div> I'm a player X lover. name change? Joey FistPump Do It. </div> Sorry home sick today and yesterday. I'm more awake today, so I'll get it done </div> No problem man, just thought you might have forgot.
Who's arguing with you? I'm just posting what you posted. [/quote] Yes, but your quoting of me was in mock of my comments. The comments made last night were created in a mind of frustration and a few posters attacking my thoughts...I know all tall people can't rebound...and I would like to lay this topic to rest, Boone has some skill, he has good rebounding positioning, he had 15 rebounds, I am very happy for him and the team that they won. But like analysts have said with J-Kidd and his decline in numbers when he goes to Dallas (less rebounds), rebounds will always be had with decent defense, and anyone with the correct footwork should be able to box our correctly, but how many times even with the 15 rebounds did the Bulls get second and third tries on the offensive end with missed rebounds from the Nets? Way to many if you ask me, and that kept them in the game. If we are struggling and going to overtime with the Bulls, we must accept that right now we are a subpar team. As a fan I want to see the best product on the floor every year. I don't want to wait 2 years for a team to gel. That's not fun. And most times, the "rebuilding" experiments never work. Re tooling is the way to win, only in rare cases does a complete rebuilding ever pan out into something special. I'm posting suggestions on how to upgrade this team, and I'm not reading any others...I want to hear others opinions on how to make the NETS better!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 21 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 21 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You are a Swift lover, and Swift is in back of Boone what else needs to be said about you? Agian he is the best big on this roster, and that means yes he is better than your boy Swift sorry but it's true. As far as Kidd allmost getting a triple double last night what #'s are you looking at?</div> <span style="color:#FF0000">This is the last time I'm going to be nice about you calling someone a Player X lover. Next time it will be a suspension</span> </div> I think its safe to say Josh_Boone is a Josh Boone lover... not really relevant but I thought I'd bring it up.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 21 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (giantcuseman @ Feb 21 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'> Excuse me, but any NBA athlete who is tall can get 15 rebounds if he plays the whole game.</div> Ghoti, you can argue with me all you want, I have free time until 1:30 so thats fine. Obviously Boone has some skill, I'm kinda tired of discussing that issue. Petey is also right with Kristic taking away his rebounds once he is fully recovered from his injury. Marginal players do well on average teams. Boone is that kinda guy...And again, I can be completely wrong and he may turn into a stud, but who knows </div> Who's arguing with you? I'm just posting what you posted. </div> Not recognizing the sarcasm in one of Ghoti's pithy retorts? This is one of the world's biggest blunders, slightly behind "Never get involved in a land war in Asia" and "never go up against a Sicilian when death is on the line."
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (giantcuseman @ Feb 21 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Who's arguing with you? I'm just posting what you posted.</div> Yes, but your quoting of me was in mock of my comments. The comments made last night were created in a mind of frustration and a few posters attacking my thoughts...I know all tall people can't rebound...and I would like to lay this topic to rest, Boone has some skill, he has good rebounding positioning, he had 15 rebounds, I am very happy for him and the team that they won. But like analysts have said with J-Kidd and his decline in numbers when he goes to Dallas (less rebounds), rebounds will always be had with decent defense, and anyone with the correct footwork should be able to box our correctly, but how many times even with the 15 rebounds did the Bulls get second and third tries on the offensive end with missed rebounds from the Nets? Way to many if you ask me, and that kept them in the game. If we are struggling and going to overtime with the Bulls, we must accept that right now we are a subpar team. As a fan I want to see the best product on the floor every year. I don't want to wait 2 years for a team to gel. That's not fun. And most times, the "rebuilding" experiments never work. Re tooling is the way to win, only in rare cases does a complete rebuilding ever pan out into something special. I'm posting suggestions on how to upgrade this team, and I'm not reading any others...I want to hear others opinions on how to make the NETS better! </div> The team played with 3 new guys... give them a chance. What's the sense in talking about plans now? There is a deadline in 2 1/2 hours. After it passes we have who we have... most of which are unknowns or coming off injury or very young. Lets see what we have and how it fits before we make rash hypothetical judgements. I'm not that bored.
So you are a new poster. You start a thread after a Nets win complaining that the coach - who cobbled together that win using players who have been with the team one day and with neither Kidd nor the star player he was traded for - is an idiot for not playing a player who was unavailable to play. You also criticize a player who most fans think has been playing well and had 15 rebounds in the victory. You then go on to inform us that all tall players can get 15 rebounds if they play the whole game, that Rodney Rogers, Marc Jackson and Zoran had as much talent as the role players on the Nets' "championship teams", and that it would be great if the Nets committed $42M to Nene. Hey, I'm not saying it's bad to post some contrary opinions and shake things up a little (Lord knows I've killed many an afternoon this way!), but be sure of what you post and be ready for the inevitable barrage when it comes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 21 2008, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So you are a new poster. You start a thread after a Nets win complaining that the coach - who cobbled together that win using players who have been with the team one day and with neither Kidd nor the star player he was traded for - is an idiot for not playing a player who was unavailable to play. You also criticize a player who most fans think has been playing well and had 15 rebounds in the victory. You then go on to inform us that all tall players can get 15 rebounds if they play the whole game, that Rodney Rogers, Marc Jackson and Zoran had as much talent as the role players on the Nets' "championship teams", and that it would be great if the Nets committed $42M to Nene. Hey, I'm not saying it's bad to post some contrary opinions and shake things up a little (Lord knows I've killed many an afternoon this way!), but be sure of what you post and be ready for the inevitable barrage when it comes.</div> hahahahahahahahahahaha.... that was a great read. 100% agree with everything you wrote.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 21 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Last night, Ben Gordon came around a screen on the baseline with RJ trailing him and Boone left his man to cut off the play. Then Boone's man rolled to the hoop and got an uncontested dunk. Nets fans everywhere cursed Josh Boone for being stupid and leaving his man wide open. Mark Jackson then correctly broke it down. It was VINCE CARTER'S responsibility to rotate to Boone's man. He was picking his nose facing the wrong direction on the other side of the paint. Is that a big deal? Not really, but Boone sure is getting a lot of undeserved crap in this thread from people who's opinions on this kind of thing I suspect aren't worth a bucket of spit.</div> That's not possible! How can you blame Vince Carter? He is awesome! He's the only reason the Nets made it to the playoffs since 2005!!! Hater! VC basher!
this whole thread sucks, how can you even try to keep a semblance of sanity while talking to this fool?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 21 2008, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Boone still has some improvement to do. For instance, too often he loses his man on defense and allows an easy dunk. However, he is just a kid who missed half of his rookie season (and played little when healthy). For someone with his limited experience, his future looks bright, so long as he continues to work on his weaknesses. It's too early to judge him, other than to recognize his obvious contributions and growth.</div> if you're talking about the bulls game boone lost people underneath because he had to cover for marcus williams who got beat off the dribble everytime so he always had to "show" to discourage the penetrator...
