Five Things You Thought You Thought About The Kidd Trade

kidd now so frustrated with all those quick guards running rings around him he tried to paralyze one...great leader!

 

He sadly looked like just another guy out there last night. Added nothing offensively, no drive and kicks, no coast to coast; is he just incompatible with the Mavs team or that done?

 

It's becoming obvious that Kidd and Avery isn't a good mix. Avery seems to be a control freak that wants the offense to be run his way. He's making Kidd ineffective, from what I'm seeing. It's basically the same offensive tragedy each time up the floor. Give the ball to the scorer, and just watch. That's exactly what Kidd is doing, and I really doubt it's by choice.

Avery has mentioned several times that he has given Kidd freedom on offense, but I sincerely don't see it. Kidd just looks hesitant.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AMS_ICE @ Apr 25 2008, 02:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 25 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AMS_ICE @ Apr 25 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 24 2008, 08:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As I said earlier in this thread about two months ago, Kidd just isn't much of a leader. That's not so unusual by itself--I'm not a great leader myself--but what's interesting is that he THINKS he's a great leader, he WANTS to be the leader, and his teammates always seem to defer to him as if he was the leader. He doesn't seem to have a good grasp on his inherent interactive skill set. He is delusional.</div>

Hmmm... So who should we believe? The experts who say that Kidd is a great leader or some shmuck hiding behind his computer who calls himself Dumpy? Tough one...
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shmuck? Dumpy's far from a schmuck. Watch your mouth there, boy, and respect your elders.
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Sorry about the shmuck bit. It's just frustrating reasoning with someone who thinks he knows everything and believe that he is the only one that's right.
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sorry, I'm just noticing this now. He really isn't a great leader, and I base that on my experience about what it takes to BE a great leader. Please understand that it is hard to be a leader. It takes more than being the "best" at something. It's not just yelling at everyone whenever they do something wrong. In every organization, there are people in positions of leadership that are not great leaders, and will never be great leaders, but they've been promoted until they reach senior management. Saying someone is not a great leader is NOT denigrating them; a large part of it has to do with inherent skills and brain type that is very difficult to change. I've certainly accepted the fact that I'm not a great leader, and wouldn't make a great leader. Anyway, you can point to his mannerisms, his language, the way he talks about his teammates, the way he accepts losses, the way he encourages and mentors teammates, the way he trusts others to make competent decisions, and yes, even the way he treats strangers. There are all sorts of anecdotal evidence I could bring up. It's true that we don't see the whole picture, because we dont get to see what goes on behind the scenes, but everytime we get to peek behind the curtain I haven't been at all impressed by him. You know, though, I'll just say that when Kidd first joined the Nets, and stood up and said "the losing stops here," or something like that, he was really exhibiting tremendous leadership skills. But that Jason Kidd has completely faded away and has been replaced by the one who just goes through the motions and then will say that the other team just "had their number" on a particular night.

A great leader is someone who inspires the best in others, who gets others to give their best all the time, just because he is in the room. That's not Jason Kidd, who came to the televised open practice last year either with a hangover or still drunk from the night before. He certainly is no Winston Churchill--you know, "never, ever ever quit," and "If you're going through hell, keep going."