What an amazing game. We seem to do better on the second game of a back to back. After getting it handed to us by the Jazz last night we came out and beat Boston without Stack Jack. Mont awas awesome, the defense was all over him but he was making adjustments like crazy. Biedirns had a good game too. Webber had another solid effort. Pietrus had some streaks of playing well. Fuck matt "I think im MJ" barnes. I officially hate this guy more than Pietrus and Harrington COMBINED. GOD DAMNIT. Who the hell does he tihnk he is taking that shot toward the end there? If you're gonna shoot it at least wait until the end of the shotclock you fucktard. Wow. Of course, Baron hit the game winner. He was very good tonight as well. Great win against a very good team without Jack. TRADE PIETRUS OR BARNES GODAMNIT PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU MULLIN STOP THE BLEEDING
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Feb 21 2008, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What an amazing game. We seem to do better on the second game of a back to back. After getting it handed to us by the Jazz last night we came out and beat Boston without Stack Jack. Mont awas awesome, the defense was all over him but he was making adjustments like crazy. Biedirns had a good game too. Webber had another solid effort. Pietrus had some streaks of playing well. **** matt "I think im MJ" barnes. I officially hate this guy more than Pietrus and Harrington COMBINED. GOD DAMNIT. Who the hell does he tihnk he is taking that shot toward the end there? If you're gonna shoot it at least wait until the end of the shotclock you fucktard. Wow. Of course, Baron hit the game winner. He was very good tonight as well. Great win against a very good team without Jack. TRADE PIETRUS OR BARNES GODAMNIT PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU MULLIN STOP THE BLEEDING</div> I saw the last part of this game and Barnes made one of the most retarded, Lamar-Odom-like (no offense to him as a person btw) decisions in the waning moments of a game that I've ever seen (Derek Fisher does the same thing too on occasion). I had a feeling Davis would save you people though. Props to him and that perfect shot at the end.
That was one hell of a basketball game. The C's got very lucky on the second-to-last possession - that was a charge. But Baron Davis... wow. Hell of a shot. Tony Allen defended him very well, got a hand up, but it didn't bother him enough. Great game, great win for you guys.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Feb 21 2008, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was one hell of a basketball game. The C's got very lucky on the second-to-last possession - that was a charge. But Baron Davis... wow. Hell of a shot. Tony Allen defended him very well, got a hand up, but it didn't bother him enough. Great game, great win for you guys.</div> Yeah it was a close one. Great NBA game. IMO the refs jobbed us on a lot of calls but they responded by making terrible makeup calls a couple time that went in our favor so I won't complain too much about that. Boston's defense is REALLY good, we just hit a lot of tough shots and played well in the half court sets. Warriors shot a season low 14 3 pointers, not a surprise I guess since Jackson wasn't playing and at least half of his shots are 3's. Tony Allen defends Baron very very well. Hes big, fast, and strong enough to keep up with Baron which few players can say they are. Gotta give props to Harrington too he had a good game and hes been playing well since Webber started playing. Biedrins also sacked up in there and quietly had a very good game. Hes developing great chemistry with Monta and Webber and already has it with Jack and Baron. Pietrus chose a good time to have his monthly good game. Lets move him now. How about webber stuffing KG on 3 flat footed blocks? LMAO. As effing slow as he is he did a pretty good job on KG. Is KG still injured? Wow. Oh and lets cut Barnes and pick up Ruben Patterson.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Feb 21 2008, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was one hell of a basketball game. The C's got very lucky on the second-to-last possession - that was a charge. But Baron Davis... wow. Hell of a shot. Tony Allen defended him very well, got a hand up, but it didn't bother him enough. Great game, great win for you guys.</div> The Warriors deserved it more, and it was a close call but Harrington's heel was in the restricted area.
Wow, what a game! I was totally amazed that Baron took that fadeaway jump shot and made it. Everytime he pulls that move I'm thinking 30% chance of going in at best. But he took a shot he wasn't afraid to miss and he nailed it. That's an ice-water in his veins type of player right there. Worst case scenario is that the Warriors had to play overtime and they made the best possible situation on just one play. Barnes... I feel everyone on Barnes... The guy either helps you or he really hurts you because he's trying to do too much for what his general abilities are. His judgment is questionable at times when it comes to solo offense. This game even he and Pietrus switched roles where Pietrus was the better player by himself and Barnes neutralized his own play. Because for every good play he did he made one or more bad-risky type plays and that was typical of players like a Pietrus/Barnes playing one or two positions above their natural position. I still defend that Barnes has more basketball smarts than Pietrus and that will probably hold true until they both retire or leave the league, but Pietrus was one of the game heroes. If he hadn't gotten that crucial steal and breakaway dunk, hit his free throws when it mattered, and played D, we wouldn't have had the lead. So props to Pietrus. Worst case scenario is if Baron missed the shot and it went to OT, but it wouldn't have been that situation if Pietrus hadn't gotten some crucial plays for us. Rajon Rondo made a nice intentional foul when he didn't have to. So credit goes to him too. BTW he's a good ballhawk. I never thought he'd clamp down Ellis with his size, but maybe he's like Speedy Claxton with muscles. I'd take a 5'11-6'1 with uber long arms, amazing lateral quickness, excellent balance/recovery with low center of gravity, and quick hands. Those are good qualities of an excellent defender (which hopefully also describe Ellis some day). That was the hardest I've seen Ellis have to work to get his shot off.
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Was at the game, one of the best NBA games I have ever seen. Later at home I looked at that Barnes play in slow-mo on TiVo. When he took it in there were four Celtics all around him. One on four vs. one of the best defensive teams in the NBA, wow, great decision. And he had AH and Pietrus wide open on opposite corners but, oh, yeah, forgot to pass the ball. Monta really had the clamps on him but still found a way to get it done, tough but impressive game for him. Also, did anyone else notice that after the Baron make while everyone was celebrating and the game was not over, when the Celtics inbounded the ball Monta was the only Warrior paying attention and who contested the final shot by Rondo. The officiating was terrible all night. I think the Warriors probably got the worst of it (lots of phantom calls) but it was bad both ways. 89 foul shots taken in the game, ouch. That's just awful. Good thing Boston was even more dreadful from the line than we were, that doesn't happen often for the Warriors.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Feb 21 2008, 01:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah it was a close one. Great NBA game. IMO the refs jobbed us on a lot of calls but they responded by making terrible makeup calls a couple time that went in our favor so I won't complain too much about that. Boston's defense is REALLY good, we just hit a lot of tough shots and played well in the half court sets. Warriors shot a season low 14 3 pointers, not a surprise I guess since Jackson wasn't playing and at least half of his shots are 3's. Tony Allen defends Baron very very well. Hes big, fast, and strong enough to keep up with Baron which few players can say they are. Gotta give props to Harrington too he had a good game and hes been playing well since Webber started playing. Biedrins also sacked up in there and quietly had a very good game. Hes developing great chemistry with Monta and Webber and already has it with Jack and Baron. Pietrus chose a good time to have his monthly good game. Lets move him now. How about webber stuffing KG on 3 flat footed blocks? LMAO. As effing slow as he is he did a pretty good job on KG. Is KG still injured? Wow.</div> Yeah I'll agree with you there - the refs were pretty awful. Every time they'd make a bad call on your end, they'd make up for it on the other with phantom make-up calls. Horrible. But hey, we kind of deserved it after what happened in Denver the night before. Also, it was KG's second game back (which also fell on the second night of a back-to-back) after missing over 3 weeks of play. He's not 100% yet, but he did look much better last night than he did on Wednesday in Denver. By the way, the stat sheet says KG only got his shot blocked once.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Feb 21 2008, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, what a game! I was totally amazed that Baron took that fadeaway jump shot and made it. Everytime he pulls that move I'm thinking 30% chance of going in at best. But he took a shot he wasn't afraid to miss and he nailed it. That's an ice-water in his veins type of player right there. Worst case scenario is that the Warriors had to play overtime and they made the best possible situation on just one play. Barnes... I feel everyone on Barnes... The guy either helps you or he really hurts you because he's trying to do too much for what his general abilities are. His judgment is questionable at times when it comes to solo offense. This game even he and Pietrus switched roles where Pietrus was the better player by himself and Barnes neutralized his own play. Because for every good play he did he made one or more bad-risky type plays and that was typical of players like a Pietrus/Barnes playing one or two positions above their natural position. I still defend that Barnes has more basketball smarts than Pietrus and that will probably hold true until they both retire or leave the league, but Pietrus was one of the game heroes. If he hadn't gotten that crucial steal and breakaway dunk, hit his free throws when it mattered, and played D, we wouldn't have had the lead. So props to Pietrus. Worst case scenario is if Baron missed the shot and it went to OT, but it wouldn't have been that situation if Pietrus hadn't gotten some crucial plays for us. Rajon Rondo made a nice intentional foul when he didn't have to. So credit goes to him too. BTW he's a good ballhawk. I never thought he'd clamp down Ellis with his size, but maybe he's like Speedy Claxton with muscles. I'd take a 5'11-6'1 with uber long arms, amazing lateral quickness, excellent balance/recovery with low center of gravity, and quick hands. Those are good qualities of an excellent defender (which hopefully also describe Ellis some day). That was the hardest I've seen Ellis have to work to get his shot off.</div> Good analysis, custodian. I also have to mention Webber. I thought he did a good job of defending KG. Webber's slowly but surely coming along and Nellie isn't putting him in any situations where he can hurt the team. His minutes are limited and he's not playing in crunch time. He'll probably be most valuable later in the season and hopefully in the playoffs.
Baron showing off some cleavage. http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?cl=5890782 not sure if it has been posted somewhere else.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (windmill @ Feb 21 2008, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Baron showing off some cleavage. http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?cl=5890782 not sure if it has been posted somewhere else.</div> What kind of directing did Emmanuelle Chriqui have to do in this flick? -Petey
Baron is a beast. What a game. Barnes is a retard, him and Pietrus battle for who's more retarded in these types of games. Barnes won this time. I liked how Andris was being involved in the offense for once. This is what happens when you give him the damn ball.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Feb 21 2008, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, what a game! I was totally amazed that Baron took that fadeaway jump shot and made it. Everytime he pulls that move I'm thinking 30% chance of going in at best. But he took a shot he wasn't afraid to miss and he nailed it. That's an ice-water in his veins type of player right there. Worst case scenario is that the Warriors had to play overtime and they made the best possible situation on just one play. Barnes... I feel everyone on Barnes... The guy either helps you or he really hurts you because he's trying to do too much for what his general abilities are. His judgment is questionable at times when it comes to solo offense. This game even he and Pietrus switched roles where Pietrus was the better player by himself and Barnes neutralized his own play. Because for every good play he did he made one or more bad-risky type plays and that was typical of players like a Pietrus/Barnes playing one or two positions above their natural position. I still defend that Barnes has more basketball smarts than Pietrus and that will probably hold true until they both retire or leave the league, but Pietrus was one of the game heroes. If he hadn't gotten that crucial steal and breakaway dunk, hit his free throws when it mattered, and played D, we wouldn't have had the lead. So props to Pietrus. Worst case scenario is if Baron missed the shot and it went to OT, but it wouldn't have been that situation if Pietrus hadn't gotten some crucial plays for us. Rajon Rondo made a nice intentional foul when he didn't have to. So credit goes to him too. BTW he's a good ballhawk. I never thought he'd clamp down Ellis with his size, but maybe he's like Speedy Claxton with muscles. I'd take a 5'11-6'1 with uber long arms, amazing lateral quickness, excellent balance/recovery with low center of gravity, and quick hands. Those are good qualities of an excellent defender (which hopefully also describe Ellis some day). That was the hardest I've seen Ellis have to work to get his shot off.</div> Yeah Baron is pretty damn clutch. Hes hit a lot of game winning shots in the couple years hes been with us, off the top of my head; last night's shot, 3 pointer over Yao, crossover-to-FT-line-jumper to beat the Sonics, that big step back 3 to put away the Lakers earlier this year. I think I'm forgetting a couple. When he's consistently focused he hits a lot of insane shots. You give him one possession where he HAS to hit a shot, he'll probably hit it. Same thing with the playoffs. He knows that he has to be focused 100% of the time and he plays out of his mind. In the regular season he goes through long stretches of just flat out not even trying to penetrate, lobbing up jumpers without even thinking, etc. Hes more consistent in the playoffs and in the clutch. As for Pietrus vs. Barnes. Its like one of Chris Rock's standup bits; "who tells the most lies? Men tell them most lies women tell the biggest ones". Pietrus makes the most mistakes I'd say but they don't usually cost us that much in the scheme of things. Barnes doesn't make as many dumb plays and even comes up with some very good plays every so often but when he effs up its REALLY bad. If Pietrus could give us nights like last night more often than not I would be ecstatic. Barnes was pretty solid last year but what the hell happened to him? I know his mom passing must have affected him but he has been absolutely awful. His shooting stroke is way off from last year, I don't think hes scrapping as much now that he knows hes on the team for sure. Hes always been a high-risk-high-reward guy and I could live taking the good with the bad from him but this season its been a whole lot of bad and not much good. Yeah, that was a dumb play by Rondo. Hes a nice player but I hate PGs who can't shoot. If he develops a nice 3 pointer or even a respectable mid-range shot a la Monta or Sam Cassell he would be an awesome player. Hes a great athlete, fantastic defender, has the insane wingspan like you said. Hes not going to wow you with his passing but he can definitely run a team and hes a very good rebounder for his size.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Feb 21 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, that was a dumb play by Rondo. Hes a nice player but I hate PGs who can't shoot. If he develops a nice 3 pointer or even a respectable mid-range shot a la Monta or Sam Cassell he would be an awesome player. Hes a great athlete, fantastic defender, has the insane wingspan like you said. Hes not going to wow you with his passing but he can definitely run a team and hes a very good rebounder for his size.</div> I hear ya Run, I also got a problem with guards that can't shoot. Which is why I complain about Baron a lot, but actually it's more about his shot selection and his inability to concentrate at the foul line which has me upset at times. It's like the guy doesn't make a lot of effort sometimes especially when he's settling for threes and just flinging shots at the foul line like he doesn't care if he misses. Rondo is a lot worse than Baron at everything shooting because his consistency/range sucks, his ability to hit free throws sucks. Maybe it's something to do with his hand position on the ball or his mechanics or something, but his consistency/accuracy is pretty poor standing still or going off the dribble. It's easier for Rondo to get higher %'s since he's a role player with many star players around him, so he can find the open lane or hit a spot on the floor he knows he can knock down consistently. He's not having to make the tough shots like Baron, but I do appreciate the fact that since he can't hit the three. He's got no choice but to go inside or hit a streaky mid-ranger. When all is said and done, a role player like Rondo is hitting 50% from the field and playing tough D. So I respect Rondo for at least keeping his %'s high from the field if he's got to be below guard standards at the foul line. I do think Rondo really isn't enough for the Celts to win a championship. They need a guard with more range and accuracy because the defense will be a lot tougher to find anything good. Yeah the celtics have 3 great players in the lineup + some nice combo guards, but I think the biggest differences made in winning that ring will be the center and point guard play. The Celtics don't have it, especially that D at the shooting guard position. Of course, I would somewhat want the Warriors to be in the Celtics position right now. To even have a chance at the ring based on season record would be an exciting thing, but it's a one or two shot deal and then its over. There's really not much window after if the Celtics fail because everyone's getting older and injury prone and they weren't really that deep in size to begin with. Not deep in comparison to the Laker big guy role players or the Spurs band of former stars and foreign mercenaries. (Actually, I'll give the Pistons a shot even though their bench is really not all that. Only because of their defense). If the Warriors could just play perimeter D like those other top teams, it would be as interesting as last year making the playoffs. If the Warriors could play all-around D, the warriors could be looking to beat the Jazz, Lakers, and the Clippers (with Brand), and all these other teams we struggle with because we're so undersized and weak and we can't defend/box out the big guys inside or the 3 point shooters camping the arc.