Where are all the members that wanted to trade RJ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Feb 23 2008, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Feb 23 2008, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>

I don't take back or regret what I say at all.

I'd still do a trade for Travis Outlaw and Rudy, along with picks and maybe some filler/expirings.</div>

its a good thing your not the Nets GM
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It's a good thing you don't teach English
Yeah, RJ is playing great and truly is the new face of the franchise.

 

So is this how it is going to be the rest of the season? Making knee-jerk, emotional responses based off of a couple of games?

WOOT!!!! Marcus Willaims and RJ for 2009 All Star Starters WOOT!!!!

 

I think the only reason this thread was made was because Marv Albert pointed out the RJ's stats. Otherwise you guys probably wouldn't have even noticed.

 

nets > nuggets

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 24 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nets > nuggets</div>

RJ is a one dimensional scorer with bad defense at this point in his career (see 36 points ,2 rebounds 0 assists, 4 turnovers) . Nothing has changed. Based on his youth, he is the one this team needs to trade. You compare him to the other swingman on the team, Carter , who, post- Kidd is averaging 24/8 and 6. You can see that one simply makes his teammates better, while the other has assumed the 'pure scorers' role. If you trade Carter and keep RJ in the offseason you are losing the far more versatile player.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (purplehaze89 @ Feb 24 2008, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>RJ is a one dimensional scorer with bad defense at this point in his career (see 36 points ,2 rebounds 0 assists, 4 turnovers) . Nothing has changed. Based on his youth, he is the one this team needs to trade. You compare him to the other swingman on the team, Carter , who, post- Kidd is averaging 24/8 and 6. You can see that one simply makes his teammates better, while the other has assumed the 'pure scorers' role. If you trade Carter and keep RJ in the offseason you are losing the far more versatile player.</div>

What?!

Conventional wisdom on its head!

A disaster of biblical proportions! Cats and dogs living together! Mass hysteria!

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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 24 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nets > nuggets</div>

WTF?

 

It all depends on your philosophy...do you believe we will be able to contend for a championship in the next year or do yo think we need probably 3 more years of development?

If the answer is next year we obviously keep RJ.

If the answer is 3 years than both RJ and Vince need to be moved...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 24 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So is this how it is going to be the rest of the season? Making knee-jerk, emotional responses based off of a couple of games?

WOOT!!!! Marcus Willaims and RJ for 2009 All Star Starters WOOT!!!!</div>

Do you see what you did there?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay @ Feb 24 2008, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 24 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So is this how it is going to be the rest of the season? Making knee-jerk, emotional responses based off of a couple of games?

WOOT!!!! Marcus Willaims and RJ for 2009 All Star Starters WOOT!!!!</div>

Do you see what you did there?
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technically speaking knee jerk reactions can go either way..so then Cpawfan is correct in asking if we're going to keep making them, for example if RJ goes 6-42 over the next two games do you suddenly want to trade him? Or Boki for example...on Friday he scores 22 and we're all talking about him like he's the sixth man of the year...today he sucks.

I think he is saying maybe we should just wait until the end of the season before we start spouting off about how much a player is great or how much a player sucks.

Overall unrealistic...but not wrong.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 24 2008, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So is this how it is going to be the rest of the season? Making knee-jerk, emotional responses based off of a couple of games?

WOOT!!!! Marcus Willaims and RJ for 2009 All Star Starters WOOT!!!!</div>

So you still want to trade RJ for Webster and Lafrentz?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (infinet @ Feb 24 2008, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 24 2008, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So is this how it is going to be the rest of the season? Making knee-jerk, emotional responses based off of a couple of games?

WOOT!!!! Marcus Willaims and RJ for 2009 All Star Starters WOOT!!!!</div>

So you still want to trade RJ for Webster and Lafrentz?
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Why Webster and LaFrentz?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (infinet @ Feb 24 2008, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 24 2008, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So is this how it is going to be the rest of the season? Making knee-jerk, emotional responses based off of a couple of games?

WOOT!!!! Marcus Willaims and RJ for 2009 All Star Starters WOOT!!!!</div>

So you still want to trade RJ for Webster and Lafrentz?
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I never did

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Feb 24 2008, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (infinet @ Feb 24 2008, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 24 2008, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So is this how it is going to be the rest of the season? Making knee-jerk, emotional responses based off of a couple of games?

WOOT!!!! Marcus Willaims and RJ for 2009 All Star Starters WOOT!!!!</div>

So you still want to trade RJ for Webster and Lafrentz?
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Why Webster and LaFrentz?
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He is taking something completely out of context again.

Last year at bbf, as a way of finding out out how much value Blazers fans placed on RJ, I asked if they would be interested in a Webster and Magloire for RJ swap. infinet took it out of context then and now.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (purplehaze89 @ Feb 24 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 24 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nets > nuggets</div>

RJ is a one dimensional scorer with bad defense at this point in his career (see 36 points ,2 rebounds 0 assists, 4 turnovers) . Nothing has changed. Based on his youth, he is the one this team needs to trade. You compare him to the other swingman on the team, Carter , who, post- Kidd is averaging 24/8 and 6. You can see that one simply makes his teammates better, while the other has assumed the 'pure scorers' role. If you trade Carter and keep RJ in the offseason you are losing the far more versatile player.
</div>Trading Carter over RJ is based on two things--he's 31 therefore he will decline earlier than RJ and VC also has got a longer contract at that.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Feb 24 2008, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (purplehaze89 @ Feb 24 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 24 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nets > nuggets</div>

RJ is a one dimensional scorer with bad defense at this point in his career (see 36 points ,2 rebounds 0 assists, 4 turnovers) . Nothing has changed. Based on his youth, he is the one this team needs to trade. You compare him to the other swingman on the team, Carter , who, post- Kidd is averaging 24/8 and 6. You can see that one simply makes his teammates better, while the other has assumed the 'pure scorers' role. If you trade Carter and keep RJ in the offseason you are losing the far more versatile player.
</div>Trading Carter over RJ is based on two things--he's 31 therefore he will decline earlier than RJ and VC also has got a longer contract at that.
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Those are the positives.

The other side is that Carter is the better player and he'd bring back less in a trade.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Feb 24 2008, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 24 2008, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Krakista @ Feb 24 2008, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (purplehaze89 @ Feb 24 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 24 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nets > nuggets</div>

RJ is a one dimensional scorer with bad defense at this point in his career (see 36 points ,2 rebounds 0 assists, 4 turnovers) . Nothing has changed. Based on his youth, he is the one this team needs to trade. You compare him to the other swingman on the team, Carter , who, post- Kidd is averaging 24/8 and 6. You can see that one simply makes his teammates better, while the other has assumed the 'pure scorers' role. If you trade Carter and keep RJ in the offseason you are losing the far more versatile player.
</div>Trading Carter over RJ is based on two things--he's 31 therefore he will decline earlier than RJ and VC also has got a longer contract at that.
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Those are the positives.

The other side is that Carter is the better player and he'd bring back less in a trade.
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RJ's contract is only slighty smaller.

-Petey
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Carter gets $4M in 2011 if the team doesn't pick up his option.

You're right. Not a big deal.