The votes are what the votes are as they go into the convention. Hillary will argue she won the popular vote, and it's somewhat persuasive. If she wins most of the remaining primaries, even by small margins, she can also say she's won all the big states and has the momentum.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The votes are what the votes are as they go into the convention. Hillary will argue she won the popular vote, and it's somewhat persuasive. If she wins most of the remaining primaries, even by small margins, she can also say she's won all the big states and has the momentum.</div> That's not even true since the only way those votes will count is if they get re-done. That's what both states are pushing for anyway.
What we're trying to say is that she is no Huckabee, and you can't compare the two, which you tried to do so with this thread. Clinton is still in the race, and its up to the convention to decide who will be the nominee.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Mar 5 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, if I was living in Michigan, I would want my vote to count. (and I would be pissed if it didn't) Face it huevonkiller, Clinton is the better choice and the people want her to be the Democrat nominee. Of course she'll lose when she faces McCain, since I'll be voting for him , but the idea is to put two of the best candidates to run for the president. Obama is neither.</div> People don't want her to win, that's why she won't be the nominee. Face it, she's a ****ing clown that needs tricks in Michigan to win. Face it, her name recognition gives her an edge in a primary where no one campaigns in Florida. She won't win 50-33 again either, and both states are trying harder to get re-dos, not count the results as they are. Her name was the only one on the ballot in Michigan. Did you even know that? No shit she'll have more votes then Obama then. </div> You're a piece of shit heuvonfarmer or what the **** your user name is. Just because you don't like her gives you no right to call her a ****ing clown. Why don't you like her? Why? 'Cause you think she looks and acts fake? Wahhhhh I got news for you. They're ****ing politicians. They're all actors. If they couldn't act they wouldn't have made it as a big name politician. Look at Obama. He's a rhetorician. Wow. He never accomplished shit in the Senate and he deserves to be president? Give me a ****ing break. What pisses me off the most is that Obama are all talking about changing politics and hoping for the best and everytime Clinton does something it's wrong and it's the type of politics Obama is trying to end. Well what the hell is bad mouthing a potential running-mate doing? Obama supporters are talking about Clinton winning breaking apart the party when they're the idiots that won't vote for a fellow democrat for no good reason. Grow up.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Mar 5 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What we're trying to say is that she is no Huckabee, and you can't compare the two, which you tried to do so with this thread. Clinton is still in the race, and its up to the convention to decide who will be the nominee.</div> She and Huckabee are both doomed in the election. I never said she was an exact carbon copy. Clinton is not in the race, how does she win other than going against what the Democratic party said? Super delegates all hint at going with the winner of the people.
Both states combined won't push either candidate over the top (enough votes to win the nomination). They SHOULD redo the votes so people get to exercise their right to vote. Tho they already did vote. Can't take that back.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're a piece of shit heuvonfarmer or what the **** your user name is. Just because you don't like her gives you no right to call her a ****ing clown. Why don't you like her? Why? 'Cause you think she looks and acts fake? Wahhhhh I got news for you. They're ****ing politicians. They're all actors. If they couldn't act they wouldn't have made it as a big name politician. Look at Obama. He's a rhetorician. Wow. He never accomplished shit in the Senate and he deserves to be president? Give me a ****ing break. What pisses me off the most is that Obama are all talking about changing politics and hoping for the best and everytime Clinton does something it's wrong and it's the type of politics Obama is trying to end. Well what the hell is bad mouthing a potential running-mate doing? Obama supporters are talking about Clinton winning breaking apart the party when they're the idiots that won't vote for a fellow democrat for no good reason. Grow up.</div> Clinton is the dirtiest candidate in the race, I don't know what the **** you're talking about. I don't like her because we live in a ****ing democracy GENIUS. She wants the votes in Michigan to count, she's a ****ing douche like anyone that supports that. That's not what America is about, be a decent human being and win in a real primary. I don't even give a **** if Obama loses, I just hate tramps that cheat like that to win. Who the **** approves of that? At least remove your "Grow up" flourish at the end, please, who are you to say that to anyone.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Both states combined won't push either candidate over the top (enough votes to win the nomination). They SHOULD redo the votes so people get to exercise their right to vote. Tho they already did vote. Can't take that back.</div> They should and they will, I have not heard any real reason to think otherwise. And I've said before that Obama is full of shit as well (no duh so is anyone that runs for this race), some people just don't follow my posts very carefully. I don't buy everything he says, but he's my candidate this cycle.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're a piece of shit heuvonfarmer or what the **** your user name is. Just because you don't like her gives you no right to call her a ****ing clown. Why don't you like her? Why? 'Cause you think she looks and acts fake? Wahhhhh I got news for you. They're ****ing politicians. They're all actors. If they couldn't act they wouldn't have made it as a big name politician. Look at Obama. He's a rhetorician. Wow. He never accomplished shit in the Senate and he deserves to be president? Give me a ****ing break. What pisses me off the most is that Obama are all talking about changing politics and hoping for the best and everytime Clinton does something it's wrong and it's the type of politics Obama is trying to end. Well what the hell is bad mouthing a potential running-mate doing? Obama supporters are talking about Clinton winning breaking apart the party when they're the idiots that won't vote for a fellow democrat for no good reason. Grow up.</div> Clinton is the dirtiest candidate in the race, I don't know what the **** you're talking about. I don't like her because we live in a ****ing democracy GENIUS. She wants the votes in Michigan to count, she's a ****ing douche like anyone that supports that. That's not what America is about, be a decent human being and win in a real primary. I don't even give a **** if Obama loses, I just hate tramps that cheat like that to win. Who the **** approves of that? At least remove your "Grow up" flourish at the end, please who are you to say that to anyone. </div> Explain to me how she is a dirty candidate? Dirty record? Or dirty as in tactical? Because no matter who the nominee is, they need to be gritty to beat the republican. Yes, we do live in a democracy. But I would imagine if you agree with Obama's stances (which he and Clinton basically share, with the exception of a few issues), then you should vote for a candidate who looks to push that agenda against a candidate that is clearly not in touch with the American people (McCain). I don't think Michigan should count. Florida should. He didn't campaign there, and neither did she. The people of Florida didn't live under a rock, if they bothered to vote on a day that wasn't advertised by any major candidate on a day where the votes "did not count", then obviously they weren't voting just for name recognition. Polls in Florida were similar to ones in California and Massachusetts at that time and Clinton won by double digits there too. Was that name recognition? No. Obama spent a shitload of money campaigning there. Who am I to say that? I'm an American -- and I live in a democracy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Both states combined won't push either candidate over the top (enough votes to win the nomination). They SHOULD redo the votes so people get to exercise their right to vote. Tho they already did vote. Can't take that back.</div> They should and they will, I have not heard any real reason to think otherwise. And I've said before that Obama is full of shit as well (no duh so is anyone that runs for this race), some people just don't follow my posts very carefully. I don't buy everything he says, but he's my candidate this cycle. </div> Okay so my bad for not memorizing all your posts? Cause I have time to do that? I'm just saying people give her a lot of flack when Obama is even more full of shit.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're a piece of shit heuvonfarmer or what the **** your user name is. Just because you don't like her gives you no right to call her a ****ing clown. Why don't you like her? Why? 'Cause you think she looks and acts fake? Wahhhhh I got news for you. They're ****ing politicians. They're all actors. If they couldn't act they wouldn't have made it as a big name politician. Look at Obama. He's a rhetorician. Wow. He never accomplished shit in the Senate and he deserves to be president? Give me a ****ing break. What pisses me off the most is that Obama are all talking about changing politics and hoping for the best and everytime Clinton does something it's wrong and it's the type of politics Obama is trying to end. Well what the hell is bad mouthing a potential running-mate doing? Obama supporters are talking about Clinton winning breaking apart the party when they're the idiots that won't vote for a fellow democrat for no good reason. Grow up.</div> Clinton is the dirtiest candidate in the race, I don't know what the **** you're talking about. I don't like her because we live in a ****ing democracy GENIUS. She wants the votes in Michigan to count, she's a ****ing douche like anyone that supports that. That's not what America is about, be a decent human being and win in a real primary. I don't even give a **** if Obama loses, I just hate tramps that cheat like that to win. Who the **** approves of that? At least remove your "Grow up" flourish at the end, please who are you to say that to anyone. </div> Explain to me how she is a dirty candidate? Dirty record? Or dirty as in tactical? Because no matter who the nominee is, they need to be gritty to beat the republican. Yes, we do live in a democracy. But I would imagine if you agree with Obama's stances (which he and Clinton basically share, with the exception of a few issues), then you should vote for a candidate who looks to push that agenda against a candidate that is clearly not in touch with the American people (McCain). I don't think Michigan should count. Florida should. He didn't campaign there, and neither did she. The people of Florida didn't live under a rock, if they bothered to vote on a day that wasn't advertised by any major candidate on a day where the votes "did not count", then obviously they weren't voting just for name recognition. Polls in Florida were similar to ones in California and Massachusetts at that time and Clinton won by double digits there too. Was that name recognition? No. Obama spent a shitload of money campaigning there. Who am I to say that? I'm an American -- and I live in a democracy. </div> Why would you ask me why i dislike her? No shit it's because of Michigan and her other problems all throughout this campaign. How the **** am I supposed to be happy about Michigan? Lay off already kid, you have no point. It's not ridiculous at all to be pissed about that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're a piece of shit heuvonfarmer or what the **** your user name is. Just because you don't like her gives you no right to call her a ****ing clown. Why don't you like her? Why? 'Cause you think she looks and acts fake? Wahhhhh I got news for you. They're ****ing politicians. They're all actors. If they couldn't act they wouldn't have made it as a big name politician. Look at Obama. He's a rhetorician. Wow. He never accomplished shit in the Senate and he deserves to be president? Give me a ****ing break. What pisses me off the most is that Obama are all talking about changing politics and hoping for the best and everytime Clinton does something it's wrong and it's the type of politics Obama is trying to end. Well what the hell is bad mouthing a potential running-mate doing? Obama supporters are talking about Clinton winning breaking apart the party when they're the idiots that won't vote for a fellow democrat for no good reason. Grow up.</div> Clinton is the dirtiest candidate in the race, I don't know what the **** you're talking about. I don't like her because we live in a ****ing democracy GENIUS. She wants the votes in Michigan to count, she's a ****ing douche like anyone that supports that. That's not what America is about, be a decent human being and win in a real primary. I don't even give a **** if Obama loses, I just hate tramps that cheat like that to win. Who the **** approves of that? At least remove your "Grow up" flourish at the end, please who are you to say that to anyone. </div> Explain to me how she is a dirty candidate? Dirty record? Or dirty as in tactical? Because no matter who the nominee is, they need to be gritty to beat the republican. Yes, we do live in a democracy. But I would imagine if you agree with Obama's stances (which he and Clinton basically share, with the exception of a few issues), then you should vote for a candidate who looks to push that agenda against a candidate that is clearly not in touch with the American people (McCain). I don't think Michigan should count. Florida should. He didn't campaign there, and neither did she. The people of Florida didn't live under a rock, if they bothered to vote on a day that wasn't advertised by any major candidate on a day where the votes "did not count", then obviously they weren't voting just for name recognition. Polls in Florida were similar to ones in California and Massachusetts at that time and Clinton won by double digits there too. Was that name recognition? No. Obama spent a shitload of money campaigning there. Who am I to say that? I'm an American -- and I live in a democracy. </div> Why would you ask me why i dislike her? No shit it's because of Michigan and her other problems all throughout this campaign. How the **** am I supposed to be happy about Michigan? Lay off already kid, you have no point. It's not ridiculous at all to be pissed about that. </div> Hmmm...so you dislike someone because they are trying to win an election? Just because she wants Michigan to count? Michigan will not count so why are you getting so angry towards over that. What's my point? What's the point of this thread? Basically it's to bash her and it's getting tiring that that's all most people on the internet decide to do.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Both states combined won't push either candidate over the top (enough votes to win the nomination). They SHOULD redo the votes so people get to exercise their right to vote. Tho they already did vote. Can't take that back.</div> They should and they will, I have not heard any real reason to think otherwise. And I've said before that Obama is full of shit as well (no duh so is anyone that runs for this race), some people just don't follow my posts very carefully. I don't buy everything he says, but he's my candidate this cycle. </div> Okay so my bad for not memorizing all your posts? Cause I have time to do that? I'm just saying people give her a lot of flack when Obama is even more full of shit. </div> First, you need to stop generalizing me with whatever pussy ass Obama supporter you know in real life. How do you even know he's more full of shit? I'd like to hear that case. And even if he was, he wants the nominee to win fairly.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're a piece of shit heuvonfarmer or what the **** your user name is. Just because you don't like her gives you no right to call her a ****ing clown. Why don't you like her? Why? 'Cause you think she looks and acts fake? Wahhhhh I got news for you. They're ****ing politicians. They're all actors. If they couldn't act they wouldn't have made it as a big name politician. Look at Obama. He's a rhetorician. Wow. He never accomplished shit in the Senate and he deserves to be president? Give me a ****ing break. What pisses me off the most is that Obama are all talking about changing politics and hoping for the best and everytime Clinton does something it's wrong and it's the type of politics Obama is trying to end. Well what the hell is bad mouthing a potential running-mate doing? Obama supporters are talking about Clinton winning breaking apart the party when they're the idiots that won't vote for a fellow democrat for no good reason. Grow up.</div> Clinton is the dirtiest candidate in the race, I don't know what the **** you're talking about. I don't like her because we live in a ****ing democracy GENIUS. She wants the votes in Michigan to count, she's a ****ing douche like anyone that supports that. That's not what America is about, be a decent human being and win in a real primary. I don't even give a **** if Obama loses, I just hate tramps that cheat like that to win. Who the **** approves of that? At least remove your "Grow up" flourish at the end, please who are you to say that to anyone. </div> Explain to me how she is a dirty candidate? Dirty record? Or dirty as in tactical? Because no matter who the nominee is, they need to be gritty to beat the republican. Yes, we do live in a democracy. But I would imagine if you agree with Obama's stances (which he and Clinton basically share, with the exception of a few issues), then you should vote for a candidate who looks to push that agenda against a candidate that is clearly not in touch with the American people (McCain). I don't think Michigan should count. Florida should. He didn't campaign there, and neither did she. The people of Florida didn't live under a rock, if they bothered to vote on a day that wasn't advertised by any major candidate on a day where the votes "did not count", then obviously they weren't voting just for name recognition. Polls in Florida were similar to ones in California and Massachusetts at that time and Clinton won by double digits there too. Was that name recognition? No. Obama spent a shitload of money campaigning there. Who am I to say that? I'm an American -- and I live in a democracy. </div> Why would you ask me why i dislike her? No shit it's because of Michigan and her other problems all throughout this campaign. How the **** am I supposed to be happy about Michigan? Lay off already kid, you have no point. It's not ridiculous at all to be pissed about that. </div> Hmmm...so you dislike someone because they are trying to win an election? Just because she wants Michigan to count? Michigan will not count so why are you getting so angry towards over that. </div> She thinks like Napoleon, that's why I don't like her. She's got fucked up priorities. She wants Michigan to count and she doesn't care about Democracy in that specific case.
Al Gore didn't want to win fairly. He wanted to recount votes in 3 counties that were 85% democratic voters, hoping that a few hundred votes might turn out in his favor. He's a politician! So is Obama. So is Hillary. So is McCain. I doubt any of them have that much honor that they'd just give up if there's a chance to win. Especially after going through all they've been through (this time, many months of campaigning till you drop).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Al Gore didn't want to win fairly. He wanted to recount votes in 3 counties that were 85% democratic voters, hoping that a few hundred votes might turn out in his favor. He's a politician! So is Obama. So is Hillary. So is McCain. I doubt any of them have that much honor that they'd just give up if there's a chance to win. Especially after going through all they've been through (this time, many months of campaigning till you drop).</div> Who the **** said I like Al Gore? We do know for certain who wants to **** with us though. Bringing in other people into her class is plausible but not verifiable. Plus she's said Anti-Semitic remarks.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Both states combined won't push either candidate over the top (enough votes to win the nomination). They SHOULD redo the votes so people get to exercise their right to vote. Tho they already did vote. Can't take that back.</div> They should and they will, I have not heard any real reason to think otherwise. And I've said before that Obama is full of shit as well (no duh so is anyone that runs for this race), some people just don't follow my posts very carefully. I don't buy everything he says, but he's my candidate this cycle. </div> Okay so my bad for not memorizing all your posts? Cause I have time to do that? I'm just saying people give her a lot of flack when Obama is even more full of shit. </div> First, you need to stop generalizing me with whatever pussy ass Obama supporter you know in real life. How do you even know he's more full of shit? I'd like to hear that case. And even if he was, he wants the nominee to win fairly. </div> Tony Rezko. Obama's connection to subprime mortgage sharks. One of his campaign people in California was giving out fliers telling republicans to register as democrats for a day to stop Clinton. He's been talking shit about her for over a year now in her stump speeches and when she finally attacks him he tries to look all innocent. He talks about giving kids health care in Illinois when it was a subdivision of CHIP. He didn't do anything for the innercities in Chicago. When it was time to vote for Iran, he didn't have the time to stop campaigning there when Hillary did -- and then he attacks her for voting that way. The whole Canada/NAFTA thing. There's a lot of shit he has done that has been going completely against the whole 'politics of hope' he preaches.
adisodes talked about Gore, I do believe. You talk about being like Gore, not wanting to count all the votes. And, don't take it so hard. Politics may make your blood boil, but you won't be so worked up about it next year this time. Don't want to exclude others from speaking their mind, no matter how much we disagree with it. ;P
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Al Gore didn't want to win fairly. He wanted to recount votes in 3 counties that were 85% democratic voters, hoping that a few hundred votes might turn out in his favor. He's a politician! So is Obama. So is Hillary. So is McCain. I doubt any of them have that much honor that they'd just give up if there's a chance to win. Especially after going through all they've been through (this time, many months of campaigning till you drop).</div> Who the **** said I like Al Gore? We do know for certain who wants to **** with us though. Bringing in other people into her class is plausible but not verifiable. Plus she's said Anti-Semitic remarks. </div> No one said you like Al Gore. May I ask, who do you support? Bringing in other people into her class? What are you talking about? What Anti-Semitic remarks?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Both states combined won't push either candidate over the top (enough votes to win the nomination). They SHOULD redo the votes so people get to exercise their right to vote. Tho they already did vote. Can't take that back.</div> They should and they will, I have not heard any real reason to think otherwise. And I've said before that Obama is full of shit as well (no duh so is anyone that runs for this race), some people just don't follow my posts very carefully. I don't buy everything he says, but he's my candidate this cycle. </div> Okay so my bad for not memorizing all your posts? Cause I have time to do that? I'm just saying people give her a lot of flack when Obama is even more full of shit. </div> First, you need to stop generalizing me with whatever pussy ass Obama supporter you know in real life. How do you even know he's more full of shit? I'd like to hear that case. And even if he was, he wants the nominee to win fairly. </div> Tony Rezko. Obama's connection to subprime mortgage sharks. One of his campaign people in California was giving out fliers telling republicans to register as democrats for a day to stop Clinton. He's been talking shit about her for over a year now in her stump speeches and when she finally attacks him he tries to look all innocent. He talks about giving kids health care in Illinois when it was a subdivision of CHIP. He didn't do anything for the innercities in Chicago. When it was time to vote for Iran, he didn't have the time to stop campaigning there when Hillary did -- and then he attacks her for voting that way. The whole Canada/NAFTA thing. There's a lot of shit he has done that has been going completely against the whole 'politics of hope' he preaches. </div> She's been saying that he was not 100% Pro-Choice, and he was. She says he waffled on the war, he didn't, you just don't send troops out to die because you won't give them armor. She has connections to the same slumlord, she's had to return more money because of shitty people she knows, she was in White water, she's said offensive stuff to Jewish people directly from her mouth. She has the same BS views on Nafta, and lied about not supporting it in a direct quote in 2004. She refuses to release her tax returns. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes @ Mar 5 2008, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Mar 5 2008, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 5 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Al Gore didn't want to win fairly. He wanted to recount votes in 3 counties that were 85% democratic voters, hoping that a few hundred votes might turn out in his favor. He's a politician! So is Obama. So is Hillary. So is McCain. I doubt any of them have that much honor that they'd just give up if there's a chance to win. Especially after going through all they've been through (this time, many months of campaigning till you drop).</div> Who the **** said I like Al Gore? We do know for certain who wants to **** with us though. Bringing in other people into her class is plausible but not verifiable. Plus she's said Anti-Semitic remarks. </div> No one said you like Al Gore. May I ask, who do you support? Bringing in other people into her class? What are you talking about? What Anti-Semitic remarks? </div> Alot of her security guards said she talks shit like that. You don't hear rumors like that about Obama either.
