<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 7 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We need a Wing and maybe a backup for RJ at the 3. I think Kristic, Boone, Swat and maybe Diop should be the big men. Maybe it's me but i dont want to lose the youngsters.</div> We're not in control of Diop's future at all. Same with Krstic. While I agree that they would be a good part of the rotation, they're unrestricted free agents, and they get to choose whether or not they'd want to re-sign with the Nets. </div> Is kristic a RFA or UFA? Sorry, I have just heard enough from people elsewhere about how the nets will trade Swat and Or Boone in the offseason.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 7 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We need a Wing and maybe a backup for RJ at the 3. I think Kristic, Boone, Swat and maybe Diop should be the big men. Maybe it's me but i dont want to lose the youngsters.</div> We're not in control of Diop's future at all. Same with Krstic. While I agree that they would be a good part of the rotation, they're unrestricted free agents, and they get to choose whether or not they'd want to re-sign with the Nets. </div> Is kristic a RFA or UFA? Sorry, I have just heard enough from people elsewhere about how the nets will trade Swat and Or Boone in the offseason. </div> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=2008freeagents My fault. He's a RFA. Didn't realize that. I guess we are in control of Krstic's future. And I don't see any good reason to trade Sean or Josh.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 7 2008, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 7 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We need a Wing and maybe a backup for RJ at the 3. I think Kristic, Boone, Swat and maybe Diop should be the big men. Maybe it's me but i dont want to lose the youngsters.</div> We're not in control of Diop's future at all. Same with Krstic. While I agree that they would be a good part of the rotation, they're unrestricted free agents, and they get to choose whether or not they'd want to re-sign with the Nets. </div> Is kristic a RFA or UFA? Sorry, I have just heard enough from people elsewhere about how the nets will trade Swat and Or Boone in the offseason. </div> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=2008freeagents My fault. He's a RFA. Didn't realize that. I guess we are in control of Krstic's future. And I don't see any good reason to trade Sean or Josh. </div> It's cool. Hope we re sign Kristic. Please Pegs dont get me going with the people at a diffrent place, i think all the people there are loney tunes. I love the people we cant have two young bigs, we need Brand we need this or that, i swear you would think it is the complaint deaprtment over there with them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Mar 7 2008, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The thing is with our big men, how many might turn out to be big time number players? Krstic has reached his potential IMO. 16 - 18 PPG is good for a center but he has absolutely no defensive skills. Boone is still young and promising but he's nothing more than the average starter, great role player. Williams is shown he can be a great defensive player with shot blocking, but his offensive skills are not as far advanced to be a prime scorer. Now Thabeet may not be an Emeka or LaMarcus in waiting but even those guys were just names in a draft who turned out to be quite talented. I think the Nets are just looking for that big man to break into the league and be a 20 - 10 guy for us so when 2010 comes around, a FA would have someone in the post to play with.</div> If that is what the nets are looking for Thabeet is not that guy trust me. He is not going to give you 20 points.</div> Oh I know that but I'm just stating while we need another big man. Doesn't hurt to look especailly at 7'3.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Mar 7 2008, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Mar 7 2008, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The thing is with our big men, how many might turn out to be big time number players? Krstic has reached his potential IMO. 16 - 18 PPG is good for a center but he has absolutely no defensive skills. Boone is still young and promising but he's nothing more than the average starter, great role player. Williams is shown he can be a great defensive player with shot blocking, but his offensive skills are not as far advanced to be a prime scorer. Now Thabeet may not be an Emeka or LaMarcus in waiting but even those guys were just names in a draft who turned out to be quite talented. I think the Nets are just looking for that big man to break into the league and be a 20 - 10 guy for us so when 2010 comes around, a FA would have someone in the post to play with.</div> If that is what the nets are looking for Thabeet is not that guy trust me. He is not going to give you 20 points.</div> Oh I know that but I'm just stating while we need another big man. Doesn't hurt to look especailly at 7'3. </div> We dont need another big though. I know he is 7'3 but if that is a reason why he gets drafted that is a dumb idea. Thabeet can be good, but he needs to stay in school. Think a better verison of Jason Collins. He wont live up to his pick, trust me.
Comparing Thabeet to Jason Collins is not really that great of a comparison at all...Thabeet has the potential to be a Dikembe Mutumbo type figure in the paint, he's already a better shotblocker than anyone on our team (yeah say Sean Williams but then watch him fall for a shitty pump fake) Thabeet is a disciplined shotblocker...he doesn't bite on pump fakes. His upside is very good and his offensive game is improving...he's scoring 4.1 more ppg than last year while grabbing 1.6 more rebounds per game. His averages of 10.3 points, 8 rebounds and 4.5 blocks are solid...and he's shown flashes of greatness in some games such as his game February 2nd against Georgia Tech when he scored 24 pts, 15 rebounds and 6 blocks...his play in the Big East Tourney and the NCAA tourney will determine his draft position. As for Hibbert...he's a nice player but to me is the type of Center who fits a triangle offense...he would be horrible in an uptempo offense...
No doubt Thabeet is a good player, it's his offesnive skills that need some major work. He needs to stay. I just hope if we do draft a big it does not mean the end for the youngsters.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No doubt Thabeet is a good player, it's his offesnive skills that need some major work. He needs to stay. I just hope if we do draft a big it does not mean the end for the youngsters.</div> He actually has people depending on him...he would've came out last year but his stock wasn't high enough...he's a guaranteed first rounder so he will be coming out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Mar 7 2008, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No doubt Thabeet is a good player, it's his offesnive skills that need some major work. He needs to stay. I just hope if we do draft a big it does not mean the end for the youngsters.</div> He actually has people depending on him...he would've came out last year but his stock wasn't high enough...he's a guaranteed first rounder so he will be coming out. </div> I know, it's sad but it's true. I would't mind if the nets could get him, but what does that mean then for Swat/ and JB?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Mar 7 2008, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No doubt Thabeet is a good player, it's his offesnive skills that need some major work. He needs to stay. I just hope if we do draft a big it does not mean the end for the youngsters.</div> He actually has people depending on him...he would've came out last year but his stock wasn't high enough...he's a guaranteed first rounder so he will be coming out. </div> I know, it's sad but it's true. I would't mind if the nets could get him, but what does that mean then for Swat/ and JB? </div> No it means Diop won't be resigned...and possibly Nenad depending on what he wants moneywise.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Mar 7 2008, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Mar 7 2008, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Mar 7 2008, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No doubt Thabeet is a good player, it's his offesnive skills that need some major work. He needs to stay. I just hope if we do draft a big it does not mean the end for the youngsters.</div> He actually has people depending on him...he would've came out last year but his stock wasn't high enough...he's a guaranteed first rounder so he will be coming out. </div> I know, it's sad but it's true. I would't mind if the nets could get him, but what does that mean then for Swat/ and JB? </div> No it means Diop won't be resigned...and possibly Nenad depending on what he wants moneywise. </div> So we can get him and keep the youngsters. HELL 3 HUSKIES on the Nets
Gallinari and Batum are both top 10 picks at the wings. Gallinari is a SF with ball skills, while Batum is a scorer whose biggest knocks are that he coasts and plays without passion. Victor Claver is a combo forward. Omri Casspi is a small forward, but has disappointed this year. Both of these guys are probably a couple years away from contributing. Nikola Pekovic is a guy to keep your eye on. Plays for Partizan (Nenad, Mile), a 6-10 power forward who is a bull. That's about the extent of guys who could be first round picks this year, IMO from the international pool.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'> 5 Top picks in this year's draft We won't know the order of the draft until the May 20 lottery, but it's a good bet that the first four picks will come from my top four below. Note the dominance of teenagers ... 5. Anthony Randolph (18 years old), 6-11 freshman PF, LSU. I admit he's a longshot to go this high, but who knows? It's shaping up to be a four-player draft, followed by several murkier picks based on long-term potential. "Randolph has the most upside of anybody,'' an NBA scout said. "This guy, if you walked into his gym, you'd say, 'I'm looking at Chris Bosh [when he was a freshman at Georgia Tech]. He's from Dallas, he's skinny and left-handed, skilled and athletic -- all like Bosh. He doesn't shoot it quite as well as Bosh did, and we have a lot more to learn about him over the next two months. But he could become Chris Bosh.''</div> SI.com
DraftExpress has us taking Randolph with the 15th pick <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Strengths: • Size • Wingspan • Quickness • Explosiveness • Fluidity • Left-handed • 4/3 mismatch threat (in style right now) • Ability to run the floor • Ball-handling skills • Ability to create shots w/either hand • Mid-range jumper • Shot-blocking • Defensive potential/Quick enough to hedge screens on p’n’r • Only 18 years old • Huge upside Weaknesses: • Lacks strength • Skinny frame • Lives off instincts/Lacks fundamentals • Forces issue/ Doesn’t know limitations • Turnover prone • Cannot hold spot on the block • Fades away/Struggles finishing through contact • Poor 3-point shooter • Shot selection • All-around defense • Can he guard NBA PFs? • Pushed around in post • Inconsistent motor • Lacks awareness • Always on losing teams • Intangibles?</div>
Im pretty sure we will get the 7-12th pick , and i woudnt waste it on another Uconn product, it hasnt worked for us with uconn products just yet, so i wouldnt waste a good pick on them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Mar 7 2008, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Im pretty sure we will get the 7-12th pick , and i woudnt waste it on another Uconn product, it hasnt worked for us with uconn products just yet, so i wouldnt waste a good pick on them.</div> Yes it has, you're just being bitter.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 7 2008, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Mar 7 2008, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Im pretty sure we will get the 7-12th pick , and i woudnt waste it on another Uconn product, it hasnt worked for us with uconn products just yet, so i wouldnt waste a good pick on them.</div> Yes it has, you're just being bitter. </div> I respect your opinion Jigga, but has it? really? Just look at it Theres at least 5 better players that are younger than our players from uconn Boone and marcus Im not being bitter, im just saying maybe we should look somewhere else. Specially on the upcoming draft.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Mar 7 2008, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Theres at least 5 better players that are younger than our players from uconn</div> I'm not sure what players you're talking about, or the context of your comparison. Boone has been a really good pick for us, and he's really developed into a reliable rebounder and improved finisher underneath the basket. Marcus is less of a known comodity, having been plagued by inopportune injuries. He's shown flashes in the past, but has turned into a more consistent player since Kidd left; not bad for a guy picked at 21. Net Income has done a great job breaking down that year's draft (of the UConn guys), so I would encourage you to use the search function to do some reading. Specifically one number he found was that Josh Boone was second only to LaMarcus Aldrige in double-doubles by big men in that draft (if not all positions?) He might have even eclipsed him in the past month, i'm not sure.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 7 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Mar 7 2008, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Theres at least 5 better players that are younger than our players from uconn</div> I'm not sure what players you're talking about, or the context of your comparison. Boone has been a really good pick for us, and he's really developed into a reliable rebounder and improved finisher underneath the basket. Marcus is less of a known comodity, having been plagued by inopportune injuries. He's shown flashes in the past, but has turned into a more consistent player since Kidd left; not bad for a guy picked at 21. Net Income has done a great job breaking down that year's draft (of the UConn guys), so I would encourage you to use the search function to do some reading. Specifically one number he found was that Josh Boone was second only to LaMarcus Aldrige in double-doubles by big men in that draft (if not all positions?) He might have even eclipsed him in the past month, i'm not sure. </div> I know he as done well , but doesnt mean he has the talent, and from what ive seen so far, he is a decent rebounder and can someimes finish at the rim, but you cant really say he is the best at his position man. I didnt know that he was second to Aldridge only so ill give you that, but i dont think he is the solution for our problems now, or the future, and isnt that what the draft is about? Getting the best possible talent around? And that is what we are searching for.
I guess I'm a bit confused since you've acknowledged that he's done well. "doesn't mean he has the talent" to do what exactly?
