Who's out there? <ul>[*]Jim Boylan: I'll pluck out my eyes before I watch that fool coach my team next year. That'd be a full-scale DEFCON-1 disaster.[*]Mike Dunleavy. Harsh words for Donald Sterling suggest he'll be on the market. Has the best resume of any of these guys.[*]Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Why would he come here? He's not going to fit in here and Phil Jackson isn't getting any younger.[*]Larry Brown. OK, better resume than Dunleavy, but way more baggage.[*]Dwane Casey. When he was fired last year the TWolves were 20-20. His replacement, Randy Wittman, went 12-30.[*]Terry Porter. Like Casey, the Bucks were better under him than they have been sense.[*]Doug Collins. Been there and done that.[/list] Any other ideas?
What do you think of Rick Carlisle? IMO he's always been an underrated coach. Also, Mike Fratello...eh.
I'll pose a question I asked on the Nets Forum. Would Kelvin Sampson do better in the NBA where there is no recruiting?
Well, Sampson has won everywhere he went. He seems pretty arrogant in his rule breaking, so I don't know that he'd fit in well with Mr. Straight Laced that runs the Bulls. For that matter, I don't see the benefit in hiring someone with that kind of hubris. I mean, good coach, but here in Indiana I read enough to think that he knew better than the violations he was accused of and he just didn't give much of a shit. Rick Carlisle hasn't had very good reviews anywhere he's been. Everyone seems to come away thinking he's a slow it down control-freak.
Magic Johnson. He's coaching thousands of kids these days with his DVDs. Certainly he'd be a players' coach, too.
I've seen talk of Calipari, but the Bulls obviously don't have the horses to run the dribble-drive offense he uses. Hell, every guard they've got, aside from Hughes, is allergic to it. Here's probably how a guy like Reinsdorf looks at the choices. 1. You can bring in a guy who can work with with the high paid long-term contracts you've got, and he'll play a system that minimizes their weaknesses and maximizes their strengths. This is probably why you hear about so many guys in the mode of Skiles. 2. you can bring in a more expensive guy who will demand his own system, and his system doesn't fit your current (and hard to move) players very well. You'll lose control, money and face a long-term project that might end up working if you have the patience for it.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketba..._must_give.html <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Rick Carlisle's chummy relationship with Bulls chairman Jerry Reinsdorf apparently has put him at the top of the list of candidates to succeed interim coach Jim Boylan. But if Nets exec Kiki Vandeweghe crosses the Hudson to take over the Knicks, he has Carlisle at the top of his list of coaching prospects.</div> Guess that's one reason we keep hearing his name.
I like Carlisle's offensive schemes most of the time, and they would really fit the Bulls roster makeup quite well. It's the times the schemes aren't appropriate that worry me about him as coach. There are certain to be games where his schemes won't work well at all - particularly when opponents have two big guards. What I see in his teams on offense is a lot of isolation plays for the guy who has the best mismatch, FWIW. The _ideal_ coach for these Bulls is Don Nelson. He makes superstars out of guards - Hinrich and Gordon would both benefit from that. He consistently wins lots of games with smallish teams. Unfortunately, the chances of getting Nelson are somewhere between 0% and 1%.
I'm thinking it'll be Carslisle. He's been a winner his last couple destinations and could do the same in Chicago. But really, as long as I don't have to watch Boylan patrol the sidelines next year, I'll be happy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 25 2008, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like Carlisle's offensive schemes most of the time, and they would really fit the Bulls roster makeup quite well. It's the times the schemes aren't appropriate that worry me about him as coach. There are certain to be games where his schemes won't work well at all - particularly when opponents have two big guards. What I see in his teams on offense is a lot of isolation plays for the guy who has the best mismatch, FWIW.</div> Aside from Gordon (offensively) is there a single Chicago Bull who comes creates a mismatch? I don't see it unless Tyrus improves by about 800% or Gray suddenly gets light in the loafers. Deng and Hinrich really don't appear to be those guys.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 25 2008, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Some other options Paul Westphal Mario Elie Keith Smart Alvin Gentry Phil Johnson</div> Think Gentry's learned anything from D'Antoni, namely that one season without Amare? He might be able to come in and do something about the fact that the Bulls have a lack of a post presence.
None of those guys strike me as the answer. After learning of the generally dysfunctional environment here, I think the only answer is the GM taking a hike, not the coach.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MikeDC @ Mar 25 2008, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>None of those guys strike me as the answer. After learning of the generally dysfunctional environment here, I think the only answer is the GM taking a hike, not the coach.</div> Obviously, the GM has to go. That has been painfully obvious for some time. However, the Bulls aren't in a position to go for a home run on the coaching hire. They need a teacher, not an ego driven retread.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MikeDC @ Mar 25 2008, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 25 2008, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like Carlisle's offensive schemes most of the time, and they would really fit the Bulls roster makeup quite well. It's the times the schemes aren't appropriate that worry me about him as coach. There are certain to be games where his schemes won't work well at all - particularly when opponents have two big guards. What I see in his teams on offense is a lot of isolation plays for the guy who has the best mismatch, FWIW.</div> Aside from Gordon (offensively) is there a single Chicago Bull who comes creates a mismatch? I don't see it unless Tyrus improves by about 800% or Gray suddenly gets light in the loafers. Deng and Hinrich really don't appear to be those guys. </div> We're just not used to seeing the guys take advantage of mismatches so much. Brother Abraham would be good on ISO plays near the post, and can even hit some outside shots. Hughes surely can handle smaller guards. Deng's certainly able to take guys off the dribble, and has been working on posting up guys he can mismatch that way. Gordon can use his speed against slower guys, and all he needs is a little open space to get off a shot. But I think he gets guarded by lots of smallish quick guys, so it may not work out that well.
I think Avery Johnson is at the top of Paxson's list. If Avery doesn't get fired, then I think Rick Carlisle or Jeff Van Gundy will be our guy.
I agree a bit about Gooden, he's pretty skilled for a 6'10 guy and a weapon. Not a top flight weapon, but it's something. But Deng doesn't take many guys off the dribble at all. I don't see that. And I don't see Hughes doing much with his skills. He's not particularly big either. He's still a tad undersized for a 2 guard, in fact. So we end up with Gordon, and we know about his limitations and the fact he wants out, and Gooden, who's a 3rd or 4th bananna sort of guy.
6'5" is undersized for a SG? Seems like a good size to me Deng's clearly not as aggressive as last season; he's always been a pretty good finisher around the hoop, even in traffic. How he gets there is by driving/slashing, beating his man off the dribble. Sore back and legs will take the aggressiveness out of a player, as we can see...
