The Last Days Of Lawrence Frank

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  1. JAMES.SLIMM

    JAMES.SLIMM Member

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    Frank is gone after the season . The End
     
  2. GMJ

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    I don't want Frank to remain the coach, but I really don't see Thorn firing him anytime soon. It's going to take a lot worse than a bad season while trading away your franchise player to make Frank culpable in his eyes
     
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    i doubt Thorn will fire him. I'm not a Frank hater but i feel he did a bad job this year. I bet Thorn will give him one last year, meaning next year if we keep VC. If they don't make it to the playoffs next year then I can see him being let go. We've dealt one of our stars and are integrating a lot important people into the team and rotation.
     
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    No more small-ball lineups with this squad. It just doesn't work. I'm sick of seeing it, and I'm sick of this team losing because of it. Also, there's too many good big men on this team right now to play small ball. I've seen too many ties or leads slip away because Frank chooses Boki instead of Diop, Sean, Krstic, or Boone.
     
  5. #1_War_Poet_ForLife

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 23 2008, 02:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't want Frank to remain the coach, but I really don't see Thorn firing him anytime soon. It's going to take a lot worse than a bad season while trading away your franchise player to make Frank culpable in his eyes</div>
    Why? We blew before the trade.
     
  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    How's Byron Scott doing these days?
     
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    thorn is in love with the guy, sux eddie jordan didn't get fired eariler this year, frank couldn't hold his strap
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 23 2008, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How's Byron Scott doing these days?</div>
    atop the western conference, looking to be a title contender for the next 10 years. he cant complain, he's probably laughing at this team right now, the guy who wanted him out just demanded to be traded and both his team and ours suck
     
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    and really what excuse does frank have? we have the better roster then the sixers and we still lose to them? he cant win with kidd, without him, this team will be stuck in mediocrity for years, from finalists to lottery bound for the next 3 years, thanks rod thorn
     
  10. JAMES.SLIMM

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    here is the link :


    http://www.njnetscast.com/blog/2008/03/19/...n-the-hot-seat/




    Frank is on the hot seat, from the article :



    ESPN’s NBA Senior Writer Chris Broussard reports on this morning’s NBA 411 segment during the Mike and Mike in the Morning simulcast on ESPN2 that Lawrence Frank is on the hot seat and could lose his job if the Nets don’t earn a playoff berth. Broussard mentions how both Bruce Ratner and Rod Thorn like Lawrence Frank, but says winning has become a priority and will take precedent over personal feelings.

    Broussard first reported that Larry Brown is interested in returning to coaching, at almost any cost, before his segue way into the Frank story, though he made sure to mention that Brown would not fit in New Jersey. One look at the Nets record, compared to the pre-season expectations, and Frank on the hot seat does not come as a shock. Fans have lit up message boards calling for the coach’s head during this dysfunctional, disappointing season, though this marks the first public report from sources close to Ratner and Thorn that a change may be on the horizon.

    Ironically, this report comes a day after possibly the most disappointing loss to date this season, a 16-point defeat to Chicago, with a potentially season defining game against Atlanta tonight. The rumor will not serve as any distraction, only a reminder of how far the Nets are from where they expected to be.

    If Frank goes, who should be next in line?

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  11. Netsfan99

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    I honestly hope hes gone......only reason he even has a winning record is because of star power on the Nets team such as Kidd, VC, RJ.....take those 3 stars out, you have a loosing coach.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan99 @ Mar 23 2008, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I honestly hope hes gone......only reason he even has a winning record is because of star power on the Nets team such as Kidd, VC, RJ.....take those 3 stars out, you have a loosing coach.</div>

    you can say that with every coach... if phil jackson didnt have jordan and pippen he wouldnt be that great of a coach and earn his "zen master" nick name
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 23 2008, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No more small-ball lineups with this squad. It just doesn't work. I'm sick of seeing it, and I'm sick of this team losing because of it. Also, there's too many good big men on this team right now to play small ball. I've seen too many ties or leads slip away because Frank chooses Boki instead of Diop, Sean, Krstic, or Boone.</div>
    This is one of the best arguments against Frank...his lineups are horrible. The fact that we have 5 capable big men and still play small ball is ridiculous. It's one thing when you have ultra atheletic talent and depth at SF like Chicago does...but realistically Boki and Hassell aren't talented enough to warrant playing small ball.

    Also hate that Frank doesnt attempt to set a rotation and develop his bench...giving players 20 mins one night and then 8 the next will never help to develop consistent play.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 23 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and really what excuse does frank have? we have the better roster then the sixers and we still lose to them? he cant win with kidd, without him, this team will be stuck in mediocrity for years, from finalists to lottery bound for the next 3 years, thanks rod thorn</div>

    What makes you think we have a better roster than the sixers? They have a better record with a team that's been playing together all year and didn't just trade away its best player.
     
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    cpawfan Monsters do exist

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 23 2008, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How's Byron Scott doing these days?</div>

    Chris Paul would make Jim Boylan look like a good head coach too.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay @ Mar 24 2008, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 23 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and really what excuse does frank have? we have the better roster then the sixers and we still lose to them? he cant win with kidd, without him, this team will be stuck in mediocrity for years, from finalists to lottery bound for the next 3 years, thanks rod thorn</div>

    What makes you think we have a better roster than the sixers? They have a better record with a team that's been playing together all year and didn't just trade away its best player.
    </div>
    Player for player:

    Devin > Miller
    VC < Iggy
    RJ > THaddus
    Krstic > Evans
    Boone = Sammy

    We added Devin but he's played great right off the bat. THe other 4 are used to playing with one another. The Nets have the better roster yet dont live up to expectations
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 24 2008, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 23 2008, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How's Byron Scott doing these days?</div>

    Chris Paul would make Jim Boylan look like a good head coach too.
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    How would Kidd, RJ, and Vince make Boylan look?

    LOL
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 24 2008, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay @ Mar 24 2008, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 23 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and really what excuse does frank have? we have the better roster then the sixers and we still lose to them? he cant win with kidd, without him, this team will be stuck in mediocrity for years, from finalists to lottery bound for the next 3 years, thanks rod thorn</div>

    What makes you think we have a better roster than the sixers? They have a better record with a team that's been playing together all year and didn't just trade away its best player.
    </div>
    Player for player:

    Devin > Miller
    VC < Iggy
    RJ > THaddus
    Krstic > Evans
    Boone = Sammy

    We added Devin but he's played great right off the bat. THe other 4 are used to playing with one another. The Nets have the better roster yet dont live up to expectations
    </div>
    You really have to stop looking at individuals games and start looking at how the team plays together. It takes time. The team hasn't been able to prep for every scenario like it would since camp. The 2-3 zone against Denver and the 2-2-1 3/4 trap that Philly used totally stymied the Nets. Why? They haven't been together enough to prep and practice <u>as a group</u> everything they will see in this league.

    And Boone is not equal to Sammy at this stage, has no where near the same impact protecting the rim. Sammy is also the main reason Philly leads the league in offensive rebounds. Krstic and Evans are two completely different kind of players. Nachbar was shit. Our bench blows and is completely irratic!!! Gave us 12 pts compared to Philly's bench giving 21 pts... that's the ball game.
     
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    I'd say Kidd, Carter and RJ would make Boylan look about like Wallace, Hinrich, Gordon, Deng and Nocioni have made hm look.

    I LOL at comparing Chris Paul to anyone in this group.
     
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    If they get swept by the Knicks tonight, I think that's reason enough to fire Frank right there. You can' get swept by that joke of a franchise. Plus, they're in tank mode.

    As mentioned, Frank's rotations are terrible. He's had about month since Harris and the other guys got here to figure things out, and there's no rhyme or reason to any subs he brings in. Sometimes it's Hassel, sometimes it's Stro, or Diop, sometimes it's Sean Williams. Guys play better when they know their roles. And he doesn't prepare his team for defensive switches.

    At this point there should be a set 9-man rotation. Sorry, but Hassel should never see the court. He's not even a defensive stopper anymore, so don't tell me he is. He's basically Jason Collins on offense, worthless, and he hurts the team, because no one has to pay attention to him.

    I'd argue that Marcus Williams is getting too much time alongside Harris. Also, Kristic should not be starting. He's just not ready, he'll have an okay game here or there, but he's gets abused on the boards and down on the blocks.

    The team's biggest weakness is they are 1 or 2 outside shooters short. They don't have that deep threat you can count on, to avoid the long dry spells. Last year they had two guys, Boki and House, this year not even Boki can be counted on.
     

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