Warrors vs Lakers

Game starts in less then 2 hours. Jackson should try and shut Kobe down. We need this game because the Nuggets won today.

 

We play again on Monday right? I see the teams splitting the series. Had Gasol been heathly, the Lakers probably would take both. Hopefully Ronny Turiaf comes up big like he always seems to against the Warriors. Lamar and Vladdy need to continue their great play as well, and Kobe needs to be Kobe. I wouldn't be surprised if Baron Davis lights us up for 50 or something. Fisher and Farmar have really been lacking on defense lately.

 

OMG, Fish is pathetic. The guy is such a lame finisher.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Mar 23 2008, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I NEVER trust a lead against the Lakers, especially in Staples.</div>
It's the Warriors. I wouldn't trust any lead against anyone. And the Lakers had to know they would give it up as easily as they built it, I'm sure they were not too worried about the lead at halftime. What disturbs me is after each of these games where they blow huge leads, they say the right things like "We got complacent, we need to continue executing our game with a lead, be patient in the halfcourt, continue to play tough defense, blah, blah, blah." But then they go out there and do exactly none of that the next game. They never seem to learn from these errors. They get lazy when playing bad teams and they get lazy when they get leads on any team.

Plus their rebounding just sucks, but I guess that's nothing unexpected either. I've never seen a team so often give up 3, 4, 5, even 6 attempts in a single play. Even when they get rebounds, they tend to fumble them away unforced or just have them ripped right out of their soft doughy paws. It's not all about size and strength either, they just don't do good fundamental rebounding like getting into position early and boxing out.

 

We can rip the W's all we want but they are not going to change.

They are simply not a fundamentally sound team.

But what a ride. Exhilarating.

SJax is simply nails. Perhaps the best big shot shooter in the league right now; well maybe Kobe and Billips. No one else. SJax does it spotting up; Kobe does it on the move, simply amazing 3s.

 

It's the Warriors. You take the bad with the good. I don't think we can really complain too much so long as they make the playoffs and put on a good show. Maybe in two seasons, we can legitimately start to question the Warriors (if they don't make progress).

 

This game last night was absolutely fabulous. Oh man... I love Sjax. My favorite warrior right now hands down. He just does it all and he doesn't disappear or make the mistakes that Harrington often does unless he's prepared to risk it for a reason.

What a game what a game. I hope tonight goes well too and that the calls aren't as bogus as they were last night.

 

LOL everyone is winded already!!! too much running haha!

 

Lakers Part 2, the refs and free throws basically decided this game. I blame more on the ref though. What a call to make in a close game (it's like bs they never call in the last play with the clock winding down...) That f'n idiot ref calls offensive foul against Ellis in favor of a flopper like Derek Fisher??? wtf... and he had no angle on the play... wtf again... You can't even call offensive foul on Ellis before Fisher yanked him down because he was holding Ellis and he didn't have set position. What a steaming pile of f'n pile of b.s. man. I mean this is why I hate freakin' hate the nba sometimes. The guy who blew that call better not ref the playoffs or else he'll cost some team even more...

What a disaster of a call...

 

I'm speechless. What CR said.

On the bright side, Baron made his free throws!!! I honestly didn't think he would but he rose to the occasion.

But, that call...come on!!!

 

I'm still fuming... on espn highlights they didn't even make light of that controversy or should I say obviously bad call which happened right in front of the cameras. For those with digital cable dvr, you can even replay and see that Fisher was grabbing.

Pant pant pant... I guess standing back from any emotions right now... the Lakers, I admit... are clearly the better team inside once they get their bigs back.

They get Bynum and Gasol healthy with Radmo/Turiaf in reserve, they can pound the Warriors inside all day just like with the Boozer/Okur 1-2 punch with Paul Milsap substitution. I'm sure if they had those two, the game wouldn't even be that close unless the Warriors had hit their free throws perfectly.

I don't know what to say... I'm just upset that the refs have so much power in those final seconds and the teams can't even challenge them like in football. The nba needs to reform these play review rules because it's unacceptable especially after the ref betting scandal. What are we to think now? We still remember that Donaghy thing from earlier. And what about reviewing whether the ball left the hand for clock violations? Why can't they review a call that they don't have an angle on just to make sure they aren't giving the game away? That to me is b.s. This could have happened to anyone and any team... totally b.s.!

And this is important to us that we win every game because the race for the final 8 playoff berths is so tight... so the refs are screwing us big time if we lose out by one game... or lose a tie breaker of some sort. I mean... you can't have these refs going into the playoffs where they could cost a team even more.

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I forgot to mention that officiating is a team job, and it's not fair to blame one guy, when the other two guys should have been helping him watch the play... So, it's a team foul up, I'd say mostly on the guy closest to the play who should have corrected it. When the league reviews this one, I hope they never give Fisher the benefit of the doubt anymore... I hope he's black listed. At most it should have been double foul... which is putting the challenge against the Warriors because of free throw shooting and the fact the Warriors were down by 2 anyway. But at least its more fair than a turnover on a flop and grab with no chance of winning. Bad calls earlier in the game you can live with, but not at the end when there's no time to move beyond it...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Mar 25 2008, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm still fuming... on espn highlights they didn't even make light of that controversy or should I say obviously bad call which happened right in front of the cameras. For those with digital cable dvr, you can even replay and see that Fisher was grabbing.

Pant pant pant... I guess standing back from any emotions right now... the Lakers, I admit... are clearly the better team inside once they get their bigs back.

They get Bynum and Gasol healthy with Radmo/Turiaf in reserve, they can pound the Warriors inside all day just like with the Boozer/Okur 1-2 punch with Paul Milsap substitution. I'm sure if they had those two, the game wouldn't even be that close unless the Warriors had hit their free throws perfectly.

I don't know what to say... I'm just upset that the refs have so much power in those final seconds and the teams can't even challenge them like in football. The nba needs to reform these play review rules because it's unacceptable especially after the ref betting scandal. What are we to think now? We still remember that Donaghy thing from earlier. And what about reviewing whether the ball left the hand for clock violations? Why can't they review a call that they don't have an angle on just to make sure they aren't giving the game away? That to me is b.s. This could have happened to anyone and any team... totally b.s.!

And this is important to us that we win every game because the race for the final 8 playoff berths is so tight... so the refs are screwing us big time if we lose out by one game... or lose a tie breaker of some sort. I mean... you can't have these refs going into the playoffs where they could cost a team even more.

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I forgot to mention that officiating is a team job, and it's not fair to blame one guy, when the other two guys should have been helping him watch the play... So, it's a team foul up, I'd say mostly on the guy closest to the play who should have corrected it. When the league reviews this one, I hope they never give Fisher the benefit of the doubt anymore... I hope he's black listed. At most it should have been double foul... which is putting the challenge against the Warriors because of free throw shooting and the fact the Warriors were down by 2 anyway. But at least its more fair than a turnover on a flop and grab with no chance of winning. Bad calls earlier in the game you can live with, but not at the end when there's no time to move beyond it...</div>



What i want to know is why the rapist (allegedly) is dripping blood down his cheek and they dont stop the game to get him fixed or out of the game. Who knows what diseases the rapist has coursing through his blood. Did Kobe pay off the ref like he did his accuser? Man ...... pure emotion driving this ignorant rant.

 

Smart move would have been to call a double foul. But refs are human. Stuff is happening so fast.

Crazy thing was I got home around ten and saw the score at 121 - 119. They were still in TO. I changed the channel immediately because I had planned to watch it on DVR, which I did, only to see that...

Totally sucked watching it knowing the score up to that point.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Mar 25 2008, 02:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (boogiescott @ Mar 25 2008, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Mar 25 2008, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm still fuming... on espn highlights they didn't even make light of that controversy or should I say obviously bad call which happened right in front of the cameras. For those with digital cable dvr, you can even replay and see that Fisher was grabbing.

Pant pant pant... I guess standing back from any emotions right now... the Lakers, I admit... are clearly the better team inside once they get their bigs back.

They get Bynum and Gasol healthy with Radmo/Turiaf in reserve, they can pound the Warriors inside all day just like with the Boozer/Okur 1-2 punch with Paul Milsap substitution. I'm sure if they had those two, the game wouldn't even be that close unless the Warriors had hit their free throws perfectly.

I don't know what to say... I'm just upset that the refs have so much power in those final seconds and the teams can't even challenge them like in football. The nba needs to reform these play review rules because it's unacceptable especially after the ref betting scandal. What are we to think now? We still remember that Donaghy thing from earlier. And what about reviewing whether the ball left the hand for clock violations? Why can't they review a call that they don't have an angle on just to make sure they aren't giving the game away? That to me is b.s. This could have happened to anyone and any team... totally b.s.!

And this is important to us that we win every game because the race for the final 8 playoff berths is so tight... so the refs are screwing us big time if we lose out by one game... or lose a tie breaker of some sort. I mean... you can't have these refs going into the playoffs where they could cost a team even more.

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I forgot to mention that officiating is a team job, and it's not fair to blame one guy, when the other two guys should have been helping him watch the play... So, it's a team foul up, I'd say mostly on the guy closest to the play who should have corrected it. When the league reviews this one, I hope they never give Fisher the benefit of the doubt anymore... I hope he's black listed. At most it should have been double foul... which is putting the challenge against the Warriors because of free throw shooting and the fact the Warriors were down by 2 anyway. But at least its more fair than a turnover on a flop and grab with no chance of winning. Bad calls earlier in the game you can live with, but not at the end when there's no time to move beyond it...</div>



What i want to know is why the rapist (allegedly) is dripping blood down his cheek and they dont stop the game to get him fixed or out of the game. Who knows what diseases the rapist has coursing through his blood. Did Kobe pay off the ref like he did his accuser? Man ...... pure emotion driving this ignorant rant.
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You might be the biggest fuckin moron on this planet.

Phil Jackson called a time out and Gary Vitti applied a substance, pretty much super glue, that glued the wound shut.

And are you still calling him a rapist? Pretty funny coming from a Warrior fan with that piece of shit thug Stephen Jackson on your team.

Pure emotion driving this ignorant rebuttal.
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All right don't escalate things. I think he was replying to me directly about my emotion driven ignorant rant or I dunno maybe his own. It's not clear, but if it's at me, I feel I'm justified for my complaints and the way I feel about that call and our chances to either hit the three or tie it or lose it....

Boogie doesn't like Kobe, which is fine. He goes after my posts when I get upset about calls or recent play, that's fine. You can definitely argue the facts about Kobe's adultery but I think that's off-topic and it doesn't need to open up with personal attacks from either side. It's like arguing politics, you either believe he did it or the girl was lying. It's not relevant, other than the fact he was attended to. Clarifying and stating the facts is okay, just hurling insults right off the bat doesn't need to happen.

The admins here just don't want anybody flaming each other over anything such as something Kobe allegedly did. Frankly, I think Kobe is an awesome player, but I think he's an immoral person at many times. There's no proof of what he did so don't take it to heart. He's innocent as far the law is concerned... Those comments of his should have been off-topic and he was probably aiming his comments at me.

The key point was that the Dfish play was a sucker play and the reffing team fell for it. I'm already over it, though, because things will even out (I believe in karma).

The warriors will pull through hopefully if Houston and Dallas start sliding. I thought the Warriors played pretty well, except for some mistakes, but the Lakers did great to climb back into it. I think everything about that game was great but ultimately it was decided on a bad call, which rightfully made me and other warriors fans upset. We talk about it amongst fellow fans because we're sharing the same feeling that it ended in a questionable way. It could have been tie game, a win by 1, or a close loss. We had the last possession, the ball should have been in our court. That was the feeling at the time...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gohn @ Mar 25 2008, 02:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Smart move would have been to call a double foul. But refs are human. Stuff is happening so fast.

Crazy thing was I got home around ten and saw the score at 121 - 119. They were still in TO. I changed the channel immediately because I had planned to watch it on DVR, which I did, only to see that...

Totally sucked watching it knowing the score up to that point.</div>

That's why I think if the calls are going to be decided so close to the end like that, it needs to be reviewed like in football.

Basketball shouldn't be like baseball. It should be more like football. There should be an instant replay challenge that extends beyond game clock violations. Almost everyone's got DVR's to see if they called the correct play, so if the two closest refs weren't sure of the call, why do they let the guy who didn't have an angle on the play decide. That I don't understand. And if those two guys who were close to the play didn't see any grabbing going on, why didn't they call double foul like you mentioned... It's like they were on the take so they can cover tonight's spread or something. I mean that's what the final scored turned out to be...

I don't know what else to talk about because that was the signature moment of the game despite both teams playing very exciting basketball in regulation. I just wish ESPN wasn't so lazy and actually pointed this out on their tv report rather than showing the play and then stating it was a turnover. That just totally ignored the controversy of the call. I mean, it was important and of fact that the referees blew the call and threw out the Warriors 1 shot chance to avoid a loss. If ESPN reported it a questionable call, that would be some sense of justice... but no ESPN is lazy. They ain't going to look into that. They're just talking heads.