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LeBron James of Europe ...yeh right, he does remind me of Boki or Kleiza and here's hoping he is another Kleiza
 
hope so... but i want more of a pure shooter on our team... something we desperately lack... a kyle korver or mike miller type player
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Mar 25 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>we're not getting him. he's top 8 in this draft.</div>

What makes you think we don't have a chance at getting <=8th pick?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 25 2008, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Mar 25 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>we're not getting him. he's top 8 in this draft.</div>

What makes you think we don't have a chance at getting <=8th pick?
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we're making PO!
if not, we still will be higher in standings than bulls or pacers. therefore 11-10th pick max.
 
the guys face scares me. it looks to me like hes wearing a mask. bad for the kids and family. i say no. lol just kidding. as long as he can shoot/freethrows im good.
 
hey, Angelo1405, I wander what happened to that lady in green afterwards?
 
Gallinari should be very good, but Kiki's track record with international players isn't very good
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 25 2008, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gallinari should be very good, but Kiki's track record with international players isn't very good</div>

I just feel like breaking this down.

Nene- Bust. (My opinion, at least.)
Tskitishvili - Bust.
Sani Becirovic - Who? (Did some research, 26 years old. Hasn't come over yet.)
Axel Hervelle - Who are these guys? (24 years old Belgium PF. Hasn't come over yet, either.)
Ricky Sanchez - Hasn't come to the NBA yet, traded to Philly.
Linas Kleiza - DING DING DING! We finally have success!

So...2 misses, 1 hit, and 3 undecided. Meanwhile, Thornski's got 1 hit, 3 misses.

That's a combined 2 hits, 5 misses...and 3 that haven't come to the NBA yet.
 
kiki should just go to the ncaa tourny with riley and watch davidson then fly over to watch WKU...
hehe
 
DE makes him seem like Batum who applies himself a bit more. There's really no top 10 pick I'm afraid of drafting, outside of Hibbert (and to some extent, Randolph)
 
thats not fair, he gets a free trip to italy. i wish i was associated with the national basketball league
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Mar 25 2008, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>thats not fair, he gets a free trip to italy. i wish i was associated with the national basketball league</div>

What is this NBL you speak of?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Mar 25 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>hey, Angelo1405, I wander what happened to that lady in green afterwards?
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sorry im slow with these things
 
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Just turn the sound off.

This guy is a beast, the Nets could have a killer frontcourt rotation with Boone/Sean/Krstic/Gallinari for years to come.
 
is Batum chop liver? anyway, we might actually be able to draft him at least. EuroBron will be long gone.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 25 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gallinari should be very good, but Kiki's track record with international players isn't very good</div>

Tskitishvili - worst top five pick in last decade

Nene - not a great pick, but injuries deprive us of making a real determination.

Kleiza - excellent pick at 27.

Hervell, Sanchez and Becirovic -- late second round picks who he took risks on -- cant measure a GM on his late second round picks. Becirovic was a risk...but a smart one. He had been compared to Petrovic before he blew out his knee.

http://hoopshype.com/general_managers/kiki_vandeweghe.htm

About the same as Stefanski. Krstic a terrific pick at #24, but Drejer at #51 and Ilic at #43 were pretty bad too. Only really good late second round foreign pick in the last decade was Ginobili.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Dark Defender @ Mar 26 2008, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value=" width=&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src=" width=&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div>

Just turn the sound off.

This guy is a beast, the Nets could have a killer frontcourt rotation with Boone/Sean/Krstic/Gallinari for years to come.</div>
Pretty much looks like a Boki highlight reel. What I'm interested in seeing most is his shooting and defense.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Mar 25 2008, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 25 2008, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gallinari should be very good, but Kiki's track record with international players isn't very good</div>

I just feel like breaking this down.

Nene- Bust. (My opinion, at least.)
Tskitishvili - Bust.
Sani Becirovic - Who? (Did some research, 26 years old. Hasn't come over yet.)
Axel Hervelle - Who are these guys? (24 years old Belgium PF. Hasn't come over yet, either.)
Ricky Sanchez - Hasn't come to the NBA yet, traded to Philly.
Linas Kleiza - DING DING DING! We finally have success!

So...2 misses, 1 hit, and 3 undecided. Meanwhile, Thornski's got 1 hit, 3 misses.

That's a combined 2 hits, 5 misses...and 3 that haven't come to the NBA yet.
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Kid Chocolate is obsessed with Axel Hervelle.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Mar 26 2008, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 25 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gallinari should be very good, but Kiki's track record with international players isn't very good</div>

Tskitishvili - worst top five pick in last decade

Nene - not a great pick, but injuries deprive us of making a real determination.

Kleiza - excellent pick at 27.

Hervell, Sanchez and Becirovic -- late second round picks who he took risks on -- cant measure a GM on his late second round picks. Becirovic was a risk...but a smart one. He had been compared to Petrovic before he blew out his knee.

http://hoopshype.com/general_managers/kiki_vandeweghe.htm

About the same as Stefanski. Krstic a terrific pick at #24, but Drejer at #51 and Ilic at #43 were pretty bad too. Only really good late second round foreign pick in the last decade was Ginobili.
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Kleiza played college ball at Missouri and Drejer played college ball at Florida. Neither counts as drafting an international player as the player categories are conventionally termed college, high school and international.

Also, Sanchez was a #35 pick, not a late second round pick.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Mar 26 2008, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Mar 25 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gallinari should be very good, but Kiki's track record with international players isn't very good</div>

Tskitishvili - worst top five pick in last decade

Nene - not a great pick, but injuries deprive us of making a real determination.

Kleiza - excellent pick at 27.

Hervell, Sanchez and Becirovic -- late second round picks who he took risks on -- cant measure a GM on his late second round picks. Becirovic was a risk...but a smart one. He had been compared to Petrovic before he blew out his knee.

http://hoopshype.com/general_managers/kiki_vandeweghe.htm

About the same as Stefanski. Krstic a terrific pick at #24, but Drejer at #51 and Ilic at #43 were pretty bad too. Only really good late second round foreign pick in the last decade was Ginobili.
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You forgot about our favorite European bust, Zoran! He sucked.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Dark Defender @ Mar 26 2008, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value=" width=&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src=" width=&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div>

Just turn the sound off.

This guy is a beast, the Nets could have a killer frontcourt rotation with Boone/Sean/Krstic/Gallinari for years to come.</div>
Why is it that everytime I see a video of a European player the music is like they are straight outta Harlem? Anyway, I don't like this guy he looks like another Nachbar. We don't need another guy who thinks he can dunk and stuff we just need a pure shooter. In the European Leagues the only way I'm impressed is if you average about 10 3's a game. Anyone can be the "European LeBron James" in Italy playin against those scrubs.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Mar 27 2008, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why is it that everytime I see a video of a European player the music is like they are straight outta Harlem? Anyway, I don't like this guy he looks like another Nachbar. We don't need another guy who thinks he can dunk and stuff we just need a pure shooter. In the European Leagues the only way I'm impressed is if you average about 10 3's a game. Anyone can be the "European LeBron James" in Italy playin against those scrubs.</div>
Kind of how I feel about him from that clip... wasn't overly impressed.
 

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