Nationalistic* Biases in Relation to the NBA

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    Can i ask you a question without you getting offended? Are you asian? or a bucks fan?
    Because what you are proposing is pretty one sided. And its not to our favor.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 5 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can i ask you a question without you getting offended? Are you asian?</div>

    Why, do you overrate players that are of your race? What a ridiculous, asinine assumption.

    edit: ok so you don't like the move, but assume its because of racial bias? WTF you wouldn't be saying this if the player in question was white or black.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 5 2008, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can i ask you a question without you getting offended? Are you asian?</div>
    Quote worthy.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Apr 5 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 5 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can i ask you a question without you getting offended? Are you asian?</div>

    Why, do you overrate players that are of your race? What a ridiculous, asinine assumption.

    edit: ok so you don't like the move, but assume its because of racial bias? WTF you wouldn't be saying this if the player in question was white or black.
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    Yeah people do that actually, im spanish from madrid and spanish people would take calderon or gasol over kobe any time of the day. And so would chinese people with yao. And black and white its all the same because at the end they are AMERICANS where the nba is, and where the vast majority of the fans are from, thats why i wouldnt say that if i was talking about an american player.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 5 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah people do that actually, im spanish from madrid and spanish people would take calderon or gasol over kobe any time of the day. And so would chinese people with yao. And black and white its all the same because at the end they are AMERICANS where the nba is, and where the vast majority of the fans are from, thats why i wouldnt say that if i was talking about an american player.</div>

    oh. my. god.

    I'm going to edit this and post my response after I recover from reading this.

    EDIT:

    So all chinese people think alike, rate players the same, and have no differentiating opinions? :-\

    So all spanish people think alike, rate players the same, and have no differentiating opinions? :-\

    THE ONLY TWO RACES IN THE USA ARE WHITE AND BLACK!?!?!?!?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 5 2008, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah people do that actually, im spanish from madrid and spanish people would take calderon or gasol over kobe any time of the day. And so would chinese people with yao. And black and white its all the same because at the end they are AMERICANS where the nba is, and where the vast majority of the fans are from, thats why i wouldnt say that if i was talking about an american player.</div>
    Are you serious?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Apr 5 2008, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 5 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah people do that actually, im spanish from madrid and spanish people would take calderon or gasol over kobe any time of the day. And so would chinese people with yao. And black and white its all the same because at the end they are AMERICANS where the nba is, and where the vast majority of the fans are from, thats why i wouldnt say that if i was talking about an american player.</div>

    oh. my. god.

    I'm going to edit this and post my response after I recover from reading this.

    EDIT:

    So all chinese people think alike, rate players the same, and have no differentiating opinions? :-\

    So all spanish people think alike, rate players the same, and have no differentiating opinions? :-\

    THE ONLY TWO RACES IN THE USA ARE WHITE AND BLACK!?!?!?!?
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    Well dude what can i tell you. Even though my parents are from spain i know better, i wouldnt do that. Gasol for kobe.. yeah right. But people are patriotic and they cheer and want good for their own, more than for other people from other parts of the world. And when did i say that all people thought alike? I just said that THE VAST MAJORITY would not think twice about what i said before with kobe and gasol. Mostly people that follow the game overseas. And i am not talking out of my ass. I have many friends abroad and seem to follow this pattern " they care and cheer for players that are from their respective countries more than for players that are from other places they are unfamiliar with. Im surprised this is a big shock for you.

    Um....ok when it comes to basketball, white and black americans is pretty much it. Are there a lot of asian americans in this league? no. mexican americans? nop Why do you have to generalize? Im talking about BASKETBALL in the united states.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MyNetsForLife @ Apr 5 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 5 2008, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah people do that actually, im spanish from madrid and spanish people would take calderon or gasol over kobe any time of the day. And so would chinese people with yao. And black and white its all the same because at the end they are AMERICANS where the nba is, and where the vast majority of the fans are from, thats why i wouldnt say that if i was talking about an american player.</div>
    Are you serious?
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    Dead serious.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 6 2008, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MyNetsForLife @ Apr 5 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 5 2008, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah people do that actually, im spanish from madrid and spanish people would take calderon or gasol over kobe any time of the day. And so would chinese people with yao. And black and white its all the same because at the end they are AMERICANS where the nba is, and where the vast majority of the fans are from, thats why i wouldnt say that if i was talking about an american player.</div>
    Are you serious?
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    Dead serious.
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    You calling THE DADDY Australian?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MyNetsForLife @ Apr 5 2008, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 6 2008, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MyNetsForLife @ Apr 5 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 5 2008, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah people do that actually, im spanish from madrid and spanish people would take calderon or gasol over kobe any time of the day. And so would chinese people with yao. And black and white its all the same because at the end they are AMERICANS where the nba is, and where the vast majority of the fans are from, thats why i wouldnt say that if i was talking about an american player.</div>
    Are you serious?
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    Dead serious.
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    You calling THE DADDY Australian?
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    Huh? [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 6 2008, 12:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Huh? [​IMG]</div>
    Don't play dumb.
     
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    i never called " the daddy" a kangoroo.
     
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    You're right, you called him a nazi-kangaroo.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 5 2008, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well dude what can i tell you. Even though my parents are from spain i know better, i wouldnt do that. Gasol for kobe.. yeah right. But people are patriotic and they cheer and want good for their own, more than for other people from other parts of the world. And when did i say that all people thought alike? I just said that THE VAST MAJORITY would not think twice about what i said before with kobe and gasol. Mostly people that follow the game overseas. And i am not talking out of my ass. I have many friends abroad and seem to follow this pattern " they care and cheer for players that are from their respective countries more than for players that are from other places they are unfamiliar with. Im surprised this is a big shock for you.

    Um....ok when it comes to basketball, white and black americans is pretty much it. Are there a lot of asian americans in this league? no. mexican americans? nop Why do you have to generalize? Im talking about BASKETBALL in the united states.</div>

    You're talking out of your ass if you're pretending to think that all people of a certain race think the same way on a particular issue because of their race; way to over-generalize. Anyone of any race has just an equal opportunity to form an objective opinion as anyone else. Lets not lose the context: you were insinuating that Lurk were asian because he thinks highly of Yi. Yet you then make a distinction, that a supposed racial bias isn't found amongst black and white americans, somehow trancending race to nationality. You're all over the place.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Apr 6 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're talking out of your ass if you're pretending to think that all people of a certain race think the same way on a particular issue because of their race; way to over-generalize. Anyone of any race has just an equal opportunity to form an objective opinion as anyone else. Lets not lose the context: you were insinuating that Lurk were asian because he thinks highly of Yi. Yet you then make a distinction, that a supposed racial bias isn't found amongst black and white americans, somehow trancending race to nationality. You're all over the place.</div>
    For the record I didn't think Lurk was asian...just retarded.

    thought I should throw my two cents in.
     
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    I don't think it should matter. It's like saying if anyone says they think highly of Sean Williams they're just doing so because they're black. [​IMG]
     
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    Realistically there can be fan bias but it's not racial it's a national bias...

    for example Yao recieves tremendous support from a large chinese fanbase, which showed as he started over Shaq his first three seasons in the NBA even though O'neal was obviously the better player...
     
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    uhh... SERIOUSLY I mean WTF!?

    lol, Im Chinese, I think SHAWXX is chinese as well, he likes DEVIN HARRIS
    and I do not really like Yi or Yao.... As you can see, my favourite player is black.

    And, im not a black chinese lol.... [​IMG] sounds retarted

    My friends, which are also chinese likes Wade, Anthony etc... They DONT all like Yao..

    I did not vote for Yao in the all-star game

    I dont have any nationality bias at all....



    With that said, I understand that Yi is the most blocked player in the NBA... LOL! But he does has an upside.... he is not the second BOKI...

    SWAT wont become Amare... he does not have the work ethic... you can see how he plays... he loves the spotlight too much.. he does not really no all the plays... and he is goofy. I would trade him for Yi. Yi is a better scorer and bigger, but it really depends on how much they earn... If Yi is payed more than SWAT then forget it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Apr 6 2008, 01:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think it should matter. It's like saying if anyone says they think highly of Sean Williams they're just doing so because they're black. [​IMG]</div>

    Well, I'm black...







    ...from the waist down.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dino33 @ Apr 6 2008, 02:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>uhh... SERIOUSLY I mean WTF!?

    lol, Im Chinese, I think DHFFL is chinese as well, he likes DEVIN HARRIS
    and I do not really like Yi or Yao.... As you can see, my favourite player is black.

    And, im not a black chinese lol.... [​IMG] sounds retarted

    My friends, which are also chinese likes Wade, Anthony etc... They DONT all like Yao..

    I did not vote for Yao in the all-star game

    I dont have any nationality bias at all....



    With that said, I understand that Yi is the most blocked player in the NBA... LOL! But he does has an upside.... he is not the second BOKI...

    SWAT wont become Amare... he does not have the work ethic... you can see how he plays... he loves the spotlight too much.. he does not really no all the plays... and he is goofy. I would trade him for Yi. Yi is a better scorer and bigger, but it really depends on how much they earn... If Yi is payed more than SWAT then forget it.</div>
    Do you live in China? We're you born there? I don't care about people of chinese descent living in the US because they're AMERICANS and therefore there nationality is in truth AMERICAN.

    Once again I'm talking about national bias not racial bias.
     

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