<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 8 2008, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Joey Dorsey FTW!</div> In all seriousness if we wasted our 2nd rounder on Joey Dorsey I'd be pretty amped.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Apr 8 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 8 2008, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Joey Dorsey FTW!</div> In all seriousness if we wasted our 2nd rounder on Joey Dorsey I'd be pretty amped. </div> He's a horrible foul shooter, like a poor man's dog's Shaq.
Are we really going to bring three rookies on this team next year though? We have Sean, Josh and Marcus who will be entering their third and second NBA season and hopefully will be a big part of next year. Dorsey would be a nice 2nd round pick but I just don't see where he would fit if we resigned Diop and Krstic, along with Swift. If the big has potential of a 1 - 10 draft pick then it would be a different story since he would be younger and more potential than Diop or Krstic hopefully.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 8 2008, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Apr 8 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 8 2008, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Joey Dorsey FTW!</div> In all seriousness if we wasted our 2nd rounder on Joey Dorsey I'd be pretty amped. </div> He's a horrible foul shooter, like a poor man's dog's Shaq. </div> Joey Dorsey is nothing short of a poor man's acid induced vision of Shaq that he won't even believe.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 8 2008, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Apr 8 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 8 2008, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Joey Dorsey FTW!</div> In all seriousness if we wasted our 2nd rounder on Joey Dorsey I'd be pretty amped. </div> He's a horrible foul shooter, like a poor man's dog's Shaq. </div> Uh Dorsey is an undersized center that has no offensive game but is really athletic, diesel, and has a lot of energy. Sounds more like ben wallace to me than shaq.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Apr 8 2008, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Batum CDR Pekovic</div> You got my vote...although the two Euros both suck at Defense. I saw extended clip of Batum lately and his D was AWFUL AWFUL. And I still submit that one of the three will be a Euro who they let develop overseas. They have done that three times in six years...Krstic in 2002, Drejer in 2004, Ilic in 2005. That's three picks out of 11 made in 2002-2007.
I think the nets need an offensive big man and wing that could really shoot. I have a feeling that the nets will try to get Brook Lopez, he fits everything they need for the frontcourt and would be a good complement to Boone and really give Krstic a kick in the ass. He's also had some maturity issues and I hope that will make him drop a little so that we could give up less picks/players to get him. If not I'd hope they could package both 1st round picks or one of the future number ones in order to move into the top 5 since brook looks like he might be gone by 5. They could address the wing with the second round pick courtney lee or richard Roby, basically whoever is left on the board or they could grab a shooter in free agency or resign boki.
Honestly I think Budinger would be an amazing player to draft...he's highly underrated and has a lot of potential while being a low risk...he'll never be "the man" but he'd be a great 2nd or 3rd option for any team. As for the Mavs pick...personally I think Batum may actually fall to there...but if not CDR or Rush...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Apr 9 2008, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As for the Mavs pick...personally I think Batum may actually fall to there</div> why?
This is such a deep draft for NCAA players. I really hope we don't waste ANY picks on some European p-ssy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Apr 9 2008, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is such a deep draft for NCAA players. I really hope we don't waste ANY picks on some European p-ssy.</div> this thread has so many quality posts. like this one!
Speaking for myself, I don't have anything near the expertise needed to differentiate between the tenth best player in the draft and the 20th and the 30th, so I don't even try. In some cases, no one really knows, and the only differentiating factor used by teams is things like height and vertical leaping ability. I prefer to try to identify likely targets by the Nets given their needs and their draft preferences over the years (as well as some composite opinion on who are the more talented players in the draft by reliable sources), which have been pretty noticable and quantifiable. I will then take a closer look at those group of five or so players and try to learn more about them. I'll also try to predict which highly-regarded players may "slip" in the draft farther than universally expected. I've done this before; I've been fairly successful with it. As I mentioned earlier, the wildcard this year is the new presence of Wiki. Historically, the Nets never drafted a HS player when it was allowed; they were the last team to select a senior first overall; and the only players they've drafted under age 20 were done so with the intention of sending them to Europe for seasoning, which was done. So, we'd normally just cross off all the college freshman off their list. I'd like to think that they'd violate this internal tenet if someone like LeBron was on the board (or Michael Beasley), and, in fact, it seems as though they would have drafted Monta Ellis if they had the chance to (but not until the second round, so maybe they give themselves more leeway there). HOWEVER, Wiki could change that. We don't know how much influence he'll have in who the Nets will take, and even if so, what his preferences are. Absent Wiki, though, someone like Chase Budinger would be a perfect fit given their preferences and his widely-recognized qualities. CDR, also. Again, I don't know how these guys compare to others in the draft, or whether they'd be good pros--just that they are the types of players that the Nets would historically take a CLOSE look at. BTW, despite all the talk of "taking the best player" irrespective of position, it isn't really true. Partially because there's often little to differentiate the best players remaining at different positions where they've been drafting, they've drafted players at specific positions of need--they have NOT drafted players where they have a glut, or intending to trade the incumbent to open up some playing time.
depends who is best available with the 1st pick... COMBO GUARD (rose,mayo,bayless,gordon) ,hansbrough ,roby SHOOTER WING (gallinari,budinger) ,hansbrough, hudson BIG MAN (b lopez or a project big man) ,rush, hudson ATHLETIC WING (batum, etc.) ,rush, jawai
IMO we don't really have a glaring need other than a sharp shooter which can be addressed in the 2nd round. This is what I would do. 1: O.J. Mayo / Kevin Love 1: Brandon Rush / Chris Douglas-Roberts 2: Shane Foster Then.. Get rid of RJ and bring in Brand Maybe bring in Mike Miller (I'm not sure if we are way over the cap or not) Staring Lineup PG: Devin Harris SG: Vince Carter SF: Mike Miller / Whoever is drafted (I'd perfer CDR, he reminds me of T-Mac) PF: Elton Brand C: Nenad Krstic Bench: Marcus Williams O.J. Mayo / CDR (Until they work their way into the lineup) Shane Foster Sean Williams Josh Boone DeSagana Diop Brandon Rush Stromile Swift Mo Ager? Yeah, that's too many people on the team but you get the point.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MyNetsForLife @ Apr 8 2008, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>To be honest, my knowledge for International, even college players, is pretty limited, which is why I rely on threads like this.</div> It's hard for a lot of NBA fans, I think. Every time I watch college basketball, I'm amazed at how different it is than the NBA. Aside from the occosional player like D. Rose, they are playing basketball a completely different way. I don't see to many Euroleague games, but I'm sure overseas it's even more drastic.
although i favor shipping rj (and vc as well) the nba and current officiating philosophies favor slashing guards who can create contact...rj is this type of player but his lack of handles limit his abilty...vc has the handles to slash but finishes going away from contact...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (THE DADDY @ Apr 8 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Apr 9 2008, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As for the Mavs pick...personally I think Batum may actually fall to there</div> why? </div> Months ago he was a top 10 pick but has slowly fell to being projected as a pick in the late teens...considering that he is being criticized for his unwillingness to dominate and be a number 1 option COMBINED with the fact that his defense makes it very possible that he could slide further in the draft.
Let me first remind those who don't already know that I don't watch college ball (although I did watch the final 4 this year and the championship game.) So I am relying purely on scouting reports from the various draft sites and what "experts" are saying about particular prospects. One name that jumped out at me is Marreese Speights, the Florida Sophmore, although apparently it's not clear that he will declare. The Draft Express description of his physicals and offensive skillset make him seem perfect for the Nets, and they have him ranked 15th on the draft board right now. I like to consider the fact that he is from a big time program, played very limited but very effective minutes for the 2007 champs behind Al Horford and Joakim Noah, and so already has had a year of seasoning in practice against NBA-caliber big men and experience against elite college competition in big games. The fact that he was playing behind those guys for a year helps explain why he could look so good on paper but still not have the exposure necessary to have achieved lottery consideration. His FG% is 4th in the DE database (64%) and he is 8th in the nation in pace/minute adjusted rebounds. I wouldn't want to take him unless we were prepared to move Sean Williams, though.
